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    To Order Arctic Silver on Z70va?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by jukem, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. jukem

    jukem Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well a Friend of mine has decided to order a z70va from powernotebooks.com. He asked me would it be a waste of money to pay $50 for arctive silver to be used. I wanted you guys/gals oppinions about it?

    Thanks
     
  2. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    Definitely a waste of money.
    Arctic Silver only helps lower the CPU temperature when the CPU is under HEAVY LOAD. Since notebooks throttle CPU speed quite a lot... you'd barely ever see the benefits of Arctic Silver UNLESS you stress the system constantly at full speed (i.e gaming for hours)...and even then, the temperature difference is probably 5 degrees or less (than a CPU without Arctic Silver applied)

    Keep in mind Arctic Silver will not lower idle CPU temps.
     
  3. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

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    these laptops run at a safe temp anyways they cant over heat they would shut down. There is no point in artic silver for a laptop. Unless its like a P4 clevo gaming rig. Or a overclocked desktop pc.
     
  4. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    Ditto
    As5 is way overrated. But 50$ for a glob of guy worth 1 cent and takes less then 40 sec to apply? You sure its not 5$?
     
  5. Shampoo

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    It's not that it's overrated, but I'd say no for your notebook because people don't understand that thermal paste is not permanent, you must reapply after a period of time, because it's not like the thermal pads used by manufacturers.

    50 dollars??????? That reseller MUST be MAD~!!!! Tell them I said they are nuts and to shove that up their bums :)

    You can buy your own AS5 and apply it yourself for a lot less plus you have more to apply later.

    If you ARE going to use a thermal paste I suggest Arctic Silver Ceramique. It's non-conductive unlike Arctic Silver 5.

    For notebooks I must say NO thermal paste, but for desktops that will be doing some overclocking then yes get some thermal paste to replace the thermal pads.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  6. Jumper

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    No, it is $50 for AS5 there, I remember seeing it in my search for laptops.... Seeing that made me move nice and quickly on to the next reseller's page.
     
  7. c9tech

    c9tech Notebook Evangelist

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    wow.......
     
  8. Underpantman

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    Yep count me in the dont bother pile. waste of 50 bucks...heaps of benchmarks out there show maybe a 1-2 degree drop in desktops...the best you could hope for is maybe 5C...and that in o/c situation on a very hot P4.
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  9. Brigand21

    Brigand21 Notebook Consultant

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    I say go for it!!! 50 bucks is nothing compared to the misery of a melted cpu... LOL

    In all seriousness though, this is quite clearly an attempt to take advantage of un-informed consumers, and if the company is prepared to undertake this kind of BS then it leaves room to speculate regarding their ethics as a buisness in general, accordingly I would strongly urge you and anyone else reading this thread to avoid purchasing from this seller until they see that taking liberties like this will get them nowhere... GRR :mad:
     
  10. acrawford

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    So are you saying that if you do have thermal paste that you will need it reapplied to get the advertised advantage OR that you will NEED it reapplied since once paste is used, thermal pads are not? Reason being I have it on my Z70va but like you I don't think I need it(didn't have to pay $50 for it)....however if it wears out am I in trouble with normal use? Will I need to have it reapplied eventually?
    Thanks,
    Adrian
     
  11. Darkforce5782

    Darkforce5782 Notebook Consultant

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    I think it would be a waste on a Z70va since the Pentium M's are designed to run cool comparied to a P4 or an AMD64-X2 in a notebook and I would put the 50 bucks into getting some better hardware.

    I had some AS put on to my Z81sp since it has a P4 driving my system and I have used the AS in the past in my desktops and I really liked the results. I decided to have it put on to keep my mind off of my notebook overheating.
     
  12. PROPortable

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    Ditto -

    On a Pentium-M, it's not only a waste of time and money, but a warranty issue as well.... that wouldn't be a big deal if you were getting serious temp drops, but on average, on a Pentium-M, you'll see a 1 degree celsius drop at MAX performance...... that's pitiful and isn't going to extend the life of the cpu or give you better performance by keeping the cpu cooler......

    On the other hand - AS5 is ALL we'll use on the Z81sp........ you'll see significant drops on a P4 cpu and it may actually help extend the life of the cpu itself as well as show performance increases......... it's not even something we charge for or even care to mention...
     
  13. Shampoo

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    Adrian...yes you need it reapplied after a long period of time, let's say a year or so. If AS5 or any other thermal paste is used the thermal pad is not, and they should not be applied together.

    I suggest checking your temps now, record them and about 6 months later check them again, or if you're a freak then keep checking them until you notice temps are going higher consistently. I don't mean temperature differences of 2-3 degrees, I mean REAL changes like 5 and up, not just for a short period of time, but is constantly 5 degrees higher than normal. 5 degrees celsius, not farenheit.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  14. PROPortable

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    yeah - certainly take off the thermal pad first.... it would be even more a joke if you didn't because its' the connection between the cpu die and the cooper heatpipe that AS5 is "better" at...... what you're really doing is filling the microscopic groves in both components to make the best thermal transfer you can....... so with the thermal pad still there, it serves even less of a purpose.