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    Ul30vt

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by ckthepilot, Oct 24, 2009.

  1. Capt'n Corrupt

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    The A1 is generally more expensive and slightly higher spec'd. One major difference (that I forgot to initially list) is the size of the battery. The A1 will include a 5600mAh 8-cell battery that is 27% higher capacity than the X1.

    }:^)~
     
  2. Yair

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    Is it physically bigger too? more important, does it stick out of the back?
     
  3. Capt'n Corrupt

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    Nope. It's the same size, though the cells have a higher capacity.

    I've recently decided to get the X1, and buy a larger battery separate as my primary battery. I *love* the black colour, and am not concerned re the warranty and the gigabit ethernet. Plus bluetooth is a nice feature, though I suspect it'll be included on the A1 as well.

    Here's hoping that the black X1 one comes to Canada!

    }:^)~
     
  4. Yair

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    I'd love a version with a stronger CPU, but I think I'll get the X-1, unless the A-1 is out not long after it, and is actually worth it.
     
  5. Capt'n Corrupt

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    Considering most actual use cases, the SU7300 T33 should be strong enough for whatever you need. For gaming the SU700 T33 + G210 M provides great performance for games (where performance is traditionally required).

    Also since the GPU is being used to increasingly improve performance in apps, the UL30Vt should not only perform well, but sip power when you don't need performance (most tasks).

    }:^)~
     
  6. Capt'n Corrupt

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    I just checked out the Acer Aspire Timeline 15.6" thin and light to get an idea of the thickness of the UL30Vt, and MAN was this thing thin! The spec sheet rates the thickness at 0.97" - 1.13" as the battery protrudes a bit at the back. The UL30Vt is rated at 0.98" including the battery protrusion but I'm curious as to how thin the majority of the laptop would be. I'm guessing the UL30Vt is around 0.86" not counting the battery protrusion (assuming the protrusion is 1/8" or 0.125") or pads.

    Anybody wish to share insight?

    However, at even 0.98" thick, the UL30Vt would be THIN, and at 4lbs, very light as well! Now that I have a concept of how thin/light it is, I'm looking forward to it even more! Thin, light, and amazing battery life, and great performance. It's incredible that it's even possible!

    Oh, and bluetooth doesn't hurt either ;).

    }:^)~
     
  7. Serg

    Serg Nowhere - Everywhere

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    A little of topic, have any of you seen the VAIO Z? Do you think it is thin and light?

    I say the Envy 13 sitting next to the Z and the Timeline, and both look chunky...^^ I wonder how this compares...
     
  8. Capt'n Corrupt

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    I think the Z is quite average, and by average, I mean chunky.The Z is quite thick compared to the UL30Vt/Timeline and especially the envy 13.

    The envy 13 is ultra-thin, much thinner than the norm, but has a weak internal battery. In order to use it with great battery life, you need to attach the slice which increases the thickness into the realm of the UL30Vt/Timeline.

    And guess what? The UL30Vt should still outgun the envy 13 in game performance despite the envy being more than twice the price. In the case of the envy, you're mostly paying for looks. The screen *is* supposed to be sublime, though.

    Arguably, the envy 13 hardware is better overall, and if the envy 13 were $1199 with the slice or a much more capable internal battery, I would purchase it over the UL30Vt. However, the price is way too expensive to be taken seriously.

    }:^)~
     
  9. marysia

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    It's supposed to be even thinner than that... according to the information I've got the measurements are 12.68" - 0,58"/0,97" - 9.17" (322 x 14.8/24,6 x 233 mm). And the weight 3.3lbs (1,5 kg).

    As for now we only seem to be getting the 8 cell/4400 mAh in Sweden. But in silver and with two years warranty. Price? $1074. Estimated delivery - before Christmas.

    The spec http://alina.se/Produkt.aspx?r=qs&T2=UL30VT-QX030V
     
  10. Soulsaber

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    Is this just your speculation? What's with all this A1 news all of a sudden? A1 = silver then I am SOLD. If not, i'll keep waiting.. =(
     
  11. Capt'n Corrupt

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    I think that 0.58" measurement is for the very front of the device; hardly accurate as it quickly slopes down to what is close to an inch in thickness and maintains that for the duration of the notebook. At 0.58", this thing would be thinner than the original adamo!

    I'm curious as to the mid-section thickness to find out if indeed it is less than the MBP's 0.95".

    EDIT: Based on an answer from the official owners lounge, it would seem that the height without the battery/leg protrusion is 0.98". With the protrusion, the user mentioned it was 1.1". This is thicker than I expected, but it's still very thin!

    }:^)~
     
  12. Capt'n Corrupt

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    Speculation, I'm afraid! Haha.. Sorry about that! I'm just trying to guesstimate differences based on the UL30a differences. For example: the UL30a-X5 from amazon is black, but the UL30a-A2 is silver.

    {:^D~
     
  13. Capt'n Corrupt

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    Well, it seems that the UL30Vt will be around 0.92" over the majority of the body! This is what I expected. This can be seen by the measurement pictures of weiser701:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5573905&postcount=501

    If you notice in the top picture, the UL30 is 3/32 shy of an inch in this measurement, which puts it at 0.906". This measurement does NOT include the battery protrusion or the feet. Given that the battery protrusion is around 0.3" (guesstimated from the image), the overall height at the highest point is 1.2" when sitting on a flat surface. The bottom image shows a 0.937" height without protrusion, making its highest point 1.24" when sitting on a flat surface. The 0.92" at the head of this post is the mean of the two measurements.

    However, for all intensive purposes, this laptop is extremely thin! 0.91" or 0.94" makes it thinner than a macbook pro, and 3.94lbs (5600mAh 8-cell) certainly makes it lighter! Of course it stands higher than a MBP on a desk due to the battery/legs.

    The 0.98" measurement from asus measures the thickness at the very rear of the laptop excluding the battery/legs, as the laptop gets thicker towards the rear. However, it's a good deal thinner over the majority of the body.

    }:^)~
     
  14. beauml

    beauml Notebook Guru

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    is arthoes ethernet that bad?? im living in dorm so i have stick ethernet into my computer. so ethernet is also the fact that i have to worry about.
    and when x1 will start to shipping out?
    it's getting close to end of semester so i have to decide which address i put for shipping address....also there is big chance i might go for oversea trip over the break.....so i could wait for A1 if it ever comes out in 2 months.
     
  15. keaton

    keaton Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow, Capt'n Corrupt, your scrutiny (and excitement,) is really helping me in my purchase decision. I've been really excited myself, but also a bit unsure if this notebook will meet my speed needs. I think the size and weight is perfect for me, and I can't argue with the battery life (even on the X1.) Does anyone know how these new CULV chips stack up to the mainstream Core2 duos? Specifically the one in this notebook.

    Everything else is perfect, but I'm replacing my desktop Phenom quad core 9500 with this basically, and although I'm willing to take a performance hit, I don't want to be too disappointed.
     
  16. specB

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    According to the Asus rep in the Amazon thread here, the expected shipping date (in the US) is December 5.
     
  17. thetrianglekid

    thetrianglekid Notebook Guru

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    or earlier!

    could someone who's preordered do a quick quick review when you get it? i'm debating b/w ul80vt and the ul30vt.

    if there are no glaring problems with the ul30vt, then i'm gonna get it.
     
  18. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Atheroes is technically a superior chipset, however, it can vary as there are different models that they have, and the one used in the UL30A seems to be a basic budget chipset. The fact there was only one antennae from user reports, also made it an iffy choice of a wireless card.


    So far, there hasn't been any updates on the pricings....yet.
     
  19. Capt'n Corrupt

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    Haha! Thanks! Scrutiny is all I have at the moment since details are scarce, but it's being driven by rabid excitement, pornograpy, and bourbon. :D I've been looking for a laptop for some time, making out with whatever I had until the best combo came along, and the UL30Vt is undoubtedly the best combo, by a long shot, for me.

    Looking for word on performance? You're in luck! Below are a few links to reviews of the UL80Vt and threads with user testimonials. It's got rave reviews and is nearly identical to the UL30Vt; the main differences being the built in DVD drive, the 14" screen, and slightly altered form factor of the UL80Vt. Otherwise, it makes a great comparison as it's practically the same as the UL30Vt spec wise, and has been out long enough to be given a complete overview.

    Without further adieu, my good sir, here are the links:
    Anandtech review: http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3665&p=7
    Quadron's UL80Vt review: http://www.expertlaptopreview.com/?p=10
    UL80Vt owners thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=428368 (at around page 10, members start getting their computers)

    From what I gather, the Turbo33'd SU7300 performs quite admirably, though nothing to rave about. However, for most tasks that require some level of performance, the T33 C2D SU7300 works very well. One user had his SU7300 clocked at 2.13GHz out of the box! I've heard reports that this can be done on a single core.

    Enjoy the links and I hope this helps!

    }:^)~
     
  20. Albigger

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    Amazon has updated the listing with a few additional photos and details now. (Hopefully that means stock is getting close)

    Looks like it will have gigabit ethernet, along with 1 year global, 1 year accidental damage warranties.

    EDIT: could be a listing error on amazon, not confirmed yet.
     
  21. Serg

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    Unfortunately the internal NBR review of the UL80Vt left much to be desired on the BQ....
     
  22. gooberlx

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    I see 2 year global warranty, 1 year ADP.
    Amazon's "Technical" details lists bluetooth, but The summary's "specifications" section does not.
     
  23. Capt'n Corrupt

    Capt'n Corrupt Notebook Evangelist

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    It's definitely 1 year (as confirmed by the asus rep in the amazon forums) and I believe that there is no bluetooth as it's not listed in the new specs. Amazon really should fix their ad!

    Sorry kids, no bluetooth for christmas..

    }:^)~
     
  24. Capt'n Corrupt

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    The UL80Vt and the Ul30Vt will not share the same build quality.

    They're likely referring to a build flaw where the right palm rest squeaks and the seam separates when pressure is applied. The UL30 has no such flaw and although the build quality isn't as high as the MBP, it's supposedly quite good.

    }:^)~
     
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    I'm still hoping we would get bluetooth since Mr. Asus said the following back in October.

    Let me ask on Amazon to confirm. I really want to pre-order as long as BT is in.
     
  26. thetrianglekid

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    i think this is just an error in the listing. the ASUS rep has said from the beginning there would be BT.
     
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    amazon's listing is confusing as hell. has asus updated the website in the USA site with the specs?
     
  28. Capt'n Corrupt

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    Yep, the amazon listing has a few contradictions that need to be fixed!

    I really hope there's bluetooth, but I won't lose sleep if there isn't. It would be a nice gift for making me wait this long :D.

    }:^)~
     
  29. thetrianglekid

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    haha. i just pre-ordered. decided against the ul80vt. 13.3 inches sounds perfect to me.


    now i just need a good, well-priced SSD to go with it :)
     
  30. bowtokrazy

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    Asus confirmed there is bluetooth
     
  31. Abula

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    I just preordered, expecting a 12/5 ship date, but when i was checking out i even put overnight shipping and says delivery will be past dic 24, maybe the preorder are too much and i wont get it from the frist batch.... i guess will see upon 12/5 what happens.
     
  32. iclicku

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    The ASUS rep is sticking with his 12/5 release date or earlier. This from the ASUS UL30VT discussion thread on Amazon.
     
  33. iclicku

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    Someone on the Amazon forum has said they received a shipping notice for their pre-order. Seems like they're starting to trickle out. Hopefully mine is next.
     
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    Is that the world wide release date of December the 5th?? or is that only for the US market??
     
  35. iclicku

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    Would think it's the US release date for Amazon only. Other resellers would start selling them after.
     
  36. keaton

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    How about the release for Canada? Is there any consensus on where to buy up here? Capt'n mentioned canadacomputers.com for the ul50vt some discussion back. Who has gotten the vt models the quickest in the past?


    Thanks for the links! I'm still wondering how the processor performs relative to mainstream core2 duos though. Every review and comparison that I read either compares it with clocks only (so my 6 year-old 1.6GHz AMD is better than this? /sarcasm/) or compares it with same/lower-end chips ("It beats the Atom hands down!", or, "It performs about the same as the SU9400!") which doesn't tell me how it performs with chips I've actually used.

    I know it might sound funny, expecting people to benchmark around MY experiences, but I don't find it unreasonable to benchmark around mainstream notebooks at the same price point. Maybe a comparison with Core2 T4400's and T6600's. (That's maybe a tad lower-end even, but I think it would compare quite well) Can anyone tell me how it compares to these? I know it can't be a clock-for-clock thing.
     
  37. Soulsaber

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    For Canada, some random local stores should have stock, depending where you live (NCIX, memory express for the west; canada computers and others for east)

    Here is a mobile processor benchmark list (no idea how accurate it is): http://www.notebookcheck.com/Mobile-Prozessoren-Benchmarkliste.1809.0.html
    The SU7300 is #165
     
  38. bowtokrazy

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    I received the shipping order. Will be delivered by this Thursday.
     
  39. iclicku

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    They are slower than T series Core 2 Duos. Does that mean all CULV machine are worthless? Hardly. It's like getting the Prius Hybrid instead of the V6 Camry. They both get the job done.
     
  40. Abula

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    when did you preordered?
     
  41. bowtokrazy

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    preordered on nov 20
     
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    Cant wait to test out the battery!
     
  43. keaton

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    Thanks Soulsaber, that was pretty much what I was looking for. Something a bit more subjective, but I can't argue with numbers.

    Overall this is going to be a great notebook. I am really looking forward to it. Just playing a bit of devils advocate. I'm the type of person to scrutinize every desicion to make sure I have made the perfect one. I really should just pick what features I need and be done with it. Deep down I know this notebook and I are soulmates.

    Then again, I would love a Core i7 with a 1080p screen, SSD, 10 hour battery life and an SLI'd GeForce all in a laptop under 14" and 4lb. The problem is it doesn't exist, and if it did it would be $20,000 and have some inexplicable keyboard flex and hinge issues or something. (Probably caused by the mass amounts of heat melting your scrotum.)
     
  44. iclicku

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    You could wait...it'll happen.
     
  45. beauml

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    i cant wait u unveil the specification!! im believin' you that u will let us know before than anybody else!!

    first everybody is concerning about screen so just tell us if it is descent or not
    second what ethernet card has it in and wireless card too!~!
    ......i cant think of anything else.....oh ya!! bluetooth too~1
     
  46. Purehazard

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    I little bigger than what you're looking for but it's just a tad over $20,000 CAD fully loaded, though who really needs 4 x 512GB SSD anyways?
     
  47. Serg

    Serg Nowhere - Everywhere

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    :drools: Wouldnt that be nice if the price tag was even a 10th of that?

    Anyways, check the Y450 that uses a GT240M, that could be worth it...

    How about the M6500 the latest Dell?
     
  48. Serg

    Serg Nowhere - Everywhere

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    I know. The UL30A was praised here. Very much liked. But the UL80Vt was heavily critiqued (sp?) by the reviewer...I am hoping ASUS doesnt drop the ball with this one, considering it could be my ultraportable companion...
     
  49. Capt'n Corrupt

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    You and me both. I'm hoping that they've worked out the kinks, but judging by the way Asus is handling the wireless issue of the UL30a, we'll have to take a wait and see, I'm afraid.

    {:^/~
     
  50. Serg

    Serg Nowhere - Everywhere

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    At least it isnt as the Acer Timeline which was deformed if the WiFi was used too much...some problem with the thermals and the components...

    (BTW, I think your signature came with the eyebrows upside down... ;))

    What other kinks were reported?
     
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