V1Jp vs G1

Can’t choose between these two models. Maybe, somebody could do my choice easier, by adding some information about their built and screen quality, looks and overall performance compare.

 

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V1J :
pros : Clearly business class, has docking pad,waterproof keyboard,less heavy (2.75kg)
cons : Weak VGA in contrast with G1

G1:
pros : Gaming class,Extremely good GPU,good bundle (mouse,bag),Direct messenger and very good screen quality and resolution (1680x... or something near it)
cons : Flashing lights(extremely stupid - power consuming too),weight 3.10

 

Hey!
just my two cent.

There is a review for the G1 that's out, I think it's by Justin.
As for the V1jp, went on the asus global site:
http://www.asus.com/products3.aspx?l1=5&l2=24&l3=330&slname=V1 Series
but this link is only the V1 series in general however it could still give you some idea.
You can always use search feature to seeif any reviews for the V1jp are out yet. Googling that model found reviews and comments but mainly in europe: in german, slovak etc...

hope this helps.

 

Don't be knocking VGA until you can clearly identify and show the benefits of DVI vs VGA for your use. Up to a 22" widescreen and a 19" regular ratio LCD, it's a none-issue and certainly shouldn't be a deciding factor in a purchase between the two.

With that said, the V1jp comes with u-DVI (basically an HDMI port with video only), and a u-DVI to DVI cable.... So, it has DVI out. Plus, it has DVI out on the docking station.. now having a docking station at all is certainly cool, but if we're talking about who's got the bigger package - having u-DVI on the systmem and DVI on a docking station give the V1jp points over the G1 in my book.

Yes, the G1 has the better grapihcs and that is clear cut...... if you need them, that's what the machine is for. The V1 is lighter, thinner and has a better build quailty overall..... but these two machines really aren't even supposed to compete with each other..... They're meant for two different types of people.

 

I dont see how the G1 is so superior in the graphics area.

As far as i know the G1 has a 7700go while the V1J p has an x1700. The 7700 is arguably faster, but certainly not a clear cut winner.

For me these are also the final contenders to choose from.

I think I've decided on the V1Jp but the deciding factors for me where:

G1:
+Better deal as far as specs are concerned. (2gig memory vs 1gig; 250 dollars cheaper vs V1, where im buying)
+Better vent placement (not on right side)
+"Direct Messenger" display above keyboard
+Full DVI port (not really concerned about this)
+"Free" backpack and mouse
-Kinda tacky looking (personal opinion though)
-Conflicting reports of battery life (one place said ~2.25 hours under battery savings mode, another said >3 hours with wireless on and 50% lcd brightness)

V1Jp:
++Modular bay (pretty much deciding factor for me)
+Sleeker design (opinion)
+Swivel cam
+Spillproof keyboard
-Expensive

Ties:
Screen size & res, cpu power, gpu power (as far as im concerned).

 

I think the G1 is fine itself, no need for the V1Jp unless you seriously are a businessman. I mean, I was eyeing the V1Jp too but the G1 has taken over .

 

Oh someone said VGA referring to the graphics card, not the VGA / DVI out ports...... never mind that....

When it comes to graphics cards, yes the 7700 is better for the hardcore gamer - of which most really aren't..... in terms of the better graphics card, I would agree wtih Yurrix....... however his is also not full on the same page..

The backpack and mouse that come with the G1 is nice for a gamer... but the V1 comes with a nice carrying case and bluetooth mouse.... so they're equal there.

The V1 does NOT have a swivel webcam... I don't know how many times I need to show the pictures of the V1's camera, but it doesn't move (it's like the W7 in that way).



Also, the V1 has a phyiscally better build and being smaller also costs more to engineer.... the V, W, S series notebooks are simply the highest end - and best blend of quality and performance that you'll find anywhere... so it's almost a little harsh to put them up against something like the G1, which is great in its own right.

 

Yurix comparison is definately something you want to consider.
As said many times, the V1JP is more appealing to the business person while the G1 is more appealing to the gamer, but both can game well.

V1JP:
Design:
+Thinner
+ Smaller footprint
+ Llighter
+ Business Styling
+ Very Good Build Quality
Performance:
+ 2.0Ghz C2D
- 120GB Hard Drive
- 1GB of Ram
- X1700
- WSXGA+ Screen (Matte)
Features:
+ Multi-bay (allows for 2nd HD, 2nd Battery, Optical drive)
+ Spillproof keyboard
+ Docking Station (optional)
+ Fingerprint Reader
+ Webcam

G1P
Design:
- Thicker
- Bigger footprint
- Weighs more
+ Gaming Styling
+ Good Build Quality
Performance:
+ 2.0Ghz C2D
+ 160GB Hard Drive
+ 2GB of Ram
+ Go 7700
+ WSXGA+ Screen (IPS - Wider Viewing Angles)
Features:
+ Green Lights
+ Keyboard FN and CTRL (also WASD keys)
+ Mouse
+ Backpack
+ Webcam

As you can see the V1Jp has design and features that make it desirable, but the G1P has the performance many are looking for.

The V1Jp will be one of the first ASUS NA notebooks with a X1700 that we will test it's performance to the Go 7700, so far from what others have reported the Go 7700 is more powerfull.

The next thing to consider is battery life, yes the G1P has some weird numbers so far, some stating 2 hours 30 minutes being the max, others stating 3 hours 30 minutes being the max.

The V1Jp is estimated at 3 hours, however from my readings once again some state 2 hours 30 minutes others state more. however it seems that the V1J (Yonah) gets 3+ hours easily, so i'm not sure why C2D numbers are lower at this time.

Finaly, you want to consider is price G1P 1800$ USD, vs V1J 2000$ USD, the price difference is easily seen in the flexibility and quality of the V1J, where as the G1P offers the BEST bang for the buck. THe V1J offers very good performance too, but why spend more when the G1P has everything you want, unless your a business user looking for the feature the V1J has to offer.

 

It's really hard to put these two up against each other. As mentioned, they were designed with different purposes in mind. I really like both systems, but having seen the features put up side by side in this thread--I'd probably go for the V1J personally. It would seem to match my preferences better. Not to say I wouldn't be happy with the G1 either though.

 

Also, if the V1J is built anything like the V6j, thats one hell of a good build and a nice look. Had I waited, I would have gotten the V1J, the dock and the multi bay are nice features.

 

Nice comparisons guys, definately agree with all your points.

That's my bad on the swivel cam comment; I dont mean to perpetuate false information. However in my defence, I read a cnet review here: http://www.cnet.com.au/laptops/laptops/0,239035649,339271496,00.htm
which states the cam swivels 180 degrees on the V1J, so I just assumed the V1Jp was the same. Plus the cam on the V1Jp is deceptive in that it looks like it would/should swivel .

Its also good to hear the V1Jp comes bundled with a mouse and carrying case.

Nice informative thread we got goin on here .

 

Yeah, well, that's ok... it's never your guys faults when you comment... it's just bad information. Just goes to show that those "big names" people go to for things like this mean nothing compared to someone who specializes in the exactly what you're looking at.

Here's something to consider... for me, I need big monitors and I need good performance and lots of storage - I've got a handful of 10k raptor drives in a raid on my workstation - even 7,200rpm nb drives don't even do it for me anymore with some stuff I do, but a lot of that can really be taken care of with a docking station because an external array can be set up and obviously a big monitor and everything else.... So, although for me 15.4" is big for the traveling I do, the functionality of this docking solution is so very handy for so many reasons......... but that's just me.

 

V1Jp is 15"4. is there anything that is similar to this as in 14'1 ASUS?

 

No..... not really... The V6 and W3 were also considered pretty close brothers if you will..... and since the V1jp is a 15.4" based on the V6 and W1 series... and since the W3 was in a way a smaller version of the W1... for all intents and purposes the W3 is more of a 14" version of the V1... The W3 doesn't have a docking station, finger print reader, or webcam... but it's the closest thing out there.

 

Well, just want to wait for a 14'1 again.... bummer

Thanks PROPortable.

 

When you say "just want to wait for a 14'1 again" - what do you mean? I'm not sure, but when some people talk about 14.1", they think that means a regular ratio display... if you're one of them, good luck, because widescreen has basically replaced everything. Widescreens are actually healthier for our eyes and that's no lie... it's one of the reasons it's used for movies. Basically, our eyes see more our of our peripheral vision to the left and right, than we can up and down...... so even for business machines, it's where they're moving.

If that's not what you mean, let me know and I'll hit you up with a response a bit later.

 

Yes, am looking for a 14'1 widescreen. Got a HP 15'4 widescreen couple of week back, found it too heavy to move around so sold to my brother with discount.
Now looking for ASUS same spec as V1J since so recommended in this forum but in 14'1 widescreen.

 

Well, there won't be something like that for quite some time.... The W3 still has one more model year to live out before it's replaced... A V1 like 14", would basically be a W3 with those few extra features I mentioned above... and would then mean there is no need for the W3 anymore.... So, this time next year we may finally see a V2 - which may be a 14" that eventually replaces the W3..

 

I would say the w3j is like the v1j 14 inch.

This is the asus business line. If anything the w3j has a nicer chassis.... same performance....

v1j has added features like the web cam and spill proof.

 

That what I need, a 14'1 web cam ASUS.

 

I'd like to point out (no offense to the V1, great model) that 'spill proof' only gets you so far. For instance, if you spill a large volume of liquid on the keyboard, it might night drain fast enough.. It would overflow the tray and still end up on internal components. I had a friend kill the motherboard in a 'spill proof keyboard' Thinkpad (one of the ones with the drain holes) this way. She spilled a whole huge glass of root beer on the keyboard, and it was more then the sealed/drained portion would hold.

I guess 'spill resistant' would be more accurate terminology.

 

Obviously this doesn't mean your new V1J can go for a shower, but what it does mean for you is that your much better off with this that you would be without it.

 

Is integrated webcam that important to somebody? 'Cause it's such a small feature, and my educated guess is that you'd eventually get bored with it, maybe even find it a small nuisance, and wish it was detachable. I know I do.

W3J seems too good to pass if you're looking for The 14" notebook, at least for some time still.

Cheers.

 

The biggest deciding factor for me personally is the build quality. I have a very old Sony R505 (Sony's flagship back in the day) and it is perfectly fine. Talk about build quality.

But then again, I figured that as long as you take good care of your laptop (e.g. if you spill something on your laptop, you don't know how to take care of it. Hands down.) it shouldn't be a problem UNLESS the laptop is so poorly built stupid things like keys falling off the keyboard or hinges cracking...but from what I read, ASUS appears to be "quality built" - I sure hope that is certainly the case. I don't even know of anybody with an ASUS laptop of 2+ years of age.

 

Firewolf - you do have a few choices and considerations.

Firstly, you may want to reconsider the webcam feature, and go with an external webcam, that you would mount onto LCD when you need it. Of course this would required you to carry more stuff, which you may not like.

Lets start with the W3J, this does not have a webcam but it has excellent build quality, multi-bay in which can put a modular bay battery or 2nd hard drive. Also this has an X1600 gpu for your gaming needs. The price is ~1800 USD.

Next choice is the A8js, this has the webcam your looking for but is missing other features the W3J has which is built quality and the multi-bay, but not to say this has terrible quality, this is more on par with other brands. Other good features the A8js has, is the WXGA+ resolution, 1440x900, DVI port, Go 7700 512mb, Core 2 Duo 2.0Ghz, which is a very powerfull combo. This laptop offers the best bang for the buck at ~1800-1900$ USD depending if you want Bluetooth or not.
Note: the A8js doesn't support an extended battery so, you will roughly gets 2 hours and 30 minutes of battery life.

Compal HGL30, this has a webcam and other good feature, to have a look at it, check both of these links, barebone Here, where you can build the laptop to your own specifications, or get on pre-assembled, Here.

As for the spillproof keyboard, i'm sure it will be able to handle the drool when you see and play around with the V1JP

 

Well, given that our company started out on the college campus' of the great party city of DC, I can certainly tell you that plenty of kids would have had more beer money if they had a spill-proof keyboard. However, you're right.. it's not a waterproof computer. For the most part though, it's 100% better against spills because there is a pan to collect the liquid, and as I remember, I believe a drain that funnels through the motherboard and out under the system. Now, since liquids really can't get through the palmrest...... or the lcd cover... the keyboard is really the weak link in that situtation. The pan under the keyboard does add a little weight (very, very little - but it all adds up), and it does add to the thickness (again - very little).

It's protection..... it helps increase the odds that you're not going to totally ruin your expensive piece of equiptment.

 

I will look into the W3J, probably just buy an external web-cam as u advised. Cheers

 

Yeah, don't let a webcam make you pick one system over another. The A8's 0.3mp is sort of pathetic compared to the 1.3mp on every other series with a webcam...... and if you looked at external options, you can get 2mp.... It's really not about mp when you're looking at video conferencing because you'll just need more bandwidth to make it look quick and crisp anyway..... but one thing I like to do with my webcams is to cover them... Face it, you're not always going to use your notebook when you're in the best condition for the world to see you. Your system can be hacked, without a doubt... and if you have a webcam and it can be turned on in the system - someone could see you when you don't want them to... so, for that reason I don't really flip over them.

Speaking of flipping though... it's one reason I like the rotating camera on the W5 - because you can point it away from yourself and therefore people can't catch you drunk in your boxers at 2am..... just a word of wisdom.

 

Thanks for replies.
Decided to go for V1Jp.
Where can I customize and order it in NA?
Looked thought all dealers sites, and found it only at MilestonePC, but cant find there option to customize it (extend RAM from 1 to 2 Gb).

 

Please send an email to us, as you may already know the V1JP is not even released yet, it is on pre-order, expect it to come roughly in the first 1-2 weeks of Jan, but still not real ETA on it yet.

Email in Sig, click on the one most appropriate, or highlight and copy and paste into your email.

 

Any chance of the V1JP being put on the group-buy discount list of laptops?

 

Probably not going happen. I don't see the V1Pj having as strong a following as the W3J and A8Js did last group buy.

That would definatly be sweet though. I would probably end up joining up with that and pulling the trigger. For now, I'll just wait and brew, lol.

 

darn it the docking station is an OPTIONAL device? how much is that gona cost?

 

Around ~$150 I guess...

 

The Power Station AKA Docking Station is $200 USD.