V6Va or Z70Va which would you choose?

Hi everyone!
I'm looking at these two models and was wondering.. which one would you guys choose and why or why not? eg. build integrity, screen preference, value.. and anything else that may sway your decisions.. thanx!:asus:
any thoughts and input would be of great apreciation!!!

plus if you could answer any of these questions please

1) i was wondering what are the differences between these two models chassis's? like are they both composed of the same materails? or is one stronger?
2) why is one more expensive than the other (sorry if this is an obvious and or stupid question..)

anything at all that you have to say about these two models i would be very greatful!
thanx for the read and any replies!

 

1. Both have carbon fiber chassis. The V6va just has a magnesium lid and aluminum palmrest. The Z70va or I should say the M6 series was the first carbon fiber model from Asus 2 years ago. The V6 which came out 9 months ago was the latest carbon fiber model. They've come a long way and the V6 is really the next generation in terms of build technology. Both are great units, the V6 can just fit it all into a smaller area.

2. smaller is more expensive..... always. Also, the IPS screen on the V6va in the US is SUPER expensive.... that adds to the cost.

 

thanx proportable!
so which model would you prefer?
and are there any ghosting problems with the V6Va screens?
or is that just with the Z70Va?

 

personally, I'd take the Z70va simply because you get more for your money.. I think I'd sacrifice some weight and form factor for the cheaper cost (or, if you want to spend the same amount of money.. sacrifice some weight and form factor for a better spec'd machine)

 

I think the v6va is pound for pound just a better machine..Really Ive been looking at laptops for a few months...I dont think there is anything like the v6v/a...Its just such a good combination of power and portability...

That being said the z70Va is a great machine too...It's just, in my head, I just want something really small and sleek and the v6va is just that!

 

yea i was set on the Z70Va for awhile, but with continious reading im always reminded of the dreaded ghosting screens.. and i read that the problem was isolated and fixed.. but then when consumers recieved their fixed screens moments later the same ghosting effects would occur.. so that is the main fear and reason why i'm hesitant to go for the Z70Va.. So is there a chance that the ghosting is still a risk that might develop with the Z70Va?

 

I know this isn't helping you, but honestly, I DON'T KNOW~!!!!!

They're both awesome machines and both are sexy, so I don't know~!!!!

haha

Thing is which do you prefer? Widescreen or normal aspect ratio screens? After using this widescreen laptop I can't use a normal one anymore. I just love it. Not just for movies, but for everything.

Cheers,
Mike

 

V6Va...hands down.
Thinner, sleeker, "Ensemble" warranty and ZBD Guarantee...

 

Oh, yea and before ZAM gets in here..the v6va is very crisp!

 

LOL... nice to see humour on this board

 

The z70va has a far superior screen. its perfect. as for the v6v every review ive read has said its a bright screen but it inferior to much of anything else in its price class just viewing angles are horrible for such an expensive machine. the z70v is the better machine and the widescreen makes it better. thats just my preference though.

 

Superior screen? I don't know about that. Mine's kinda washed out, color wise, and it's kinda dim. May be just me.

I thought the V6va had that new screen on it, so it must be really nice

Just wish it had a widescreen. I just love this widescreen aspect ratio, with the high res'. It's just perfect for me.

I hate using my monitor now on my desktop. Looking for a widescreen aspect ratio LCD monitor for my desktop. Will buy one when I get some money

Cheers,
Mike

 

The new V6Va with the IPS screen would be far superior to the Z70Va screen... at least it SHOULD be.

 

It should, providing you get one of the few units with the screen

 

I had a z70v for a short time and found the screen to have exellent color and brightness its supposed to have one of the best matte screens ever made . and ive had many laptops to compare it to.

This is from laptop logic about the v6v not sure if the v6va is much diff?

the viewing angle is quite limited for such a high end notebook. Viewing the screen from a slight angle (horizontally or vertically) will cause the colors and brightness to distort. This is more obvious when watching DVD movies, where images and colors appear pale and washed out. Compared to DVD playback displayed on the Acer 8103 (which also uses a transmissive LCD screen), color rendering is more vibrant and brightness is more even. It also has better color accuracy and the viewing angle is substantially wider than what is offered from the Asus V6V. The same vignette effect occurs with images as well. I then placed my IBM ThinkPad T42 aside to the Asus V6V and viewed identical web images – the image displayed on the V6V appeared washed out compared to the image displayed on the ThinkPad. As long as you view the V6V’s screen at a specific angle, like straight on, then you will not experience these distortions as I’ve mentioned.

 

Laptop Logic never saw a 15" regular ratio SXGA+ laptop till they bought that unit from us...... I thought their review was unfairly done because their comparisons were done of different size and ratio screens.......

The V6va on the other hand has a screen that is bar none, the best screen you'll have ever seen to this point....... That I honestly guarentee... The IPS screens Asus have used on this and the old L5ga (which I've always raved about) ........ are as good as the best CRT monitor you've seen.

 

I pointed out the review was for the v6v i dont know about the va one. Are all the v6va ones getting the IPS screens?

 

Only the first (few?) shipments had the IPS screen. I believe the V6Va's shipped now do not have them anymore.

 

If most do not have the IPS screen are they using the old screens from the regular v6v?

 

I know you said it was a V6v review.... but because the IPS screen on the VA is so much different, it's almost not fair to bring that into the mix because it could be confusing.

All V6va's should still have IPS screens on them... I know at least we still have them.... once the IPS screens are gone we're just going to take that model off the site..... I can't speak for anyone else in the US and certainly not the world, but no one would expect that.

 

No, because the old V6V screen was matte...whereas the V6Va is glossy.

 

Thats right i forgot they went glossy this time. kinda surprising since this is kind of a bussiness notebook. kinda like the IBM T series.

 

Right, typically regular ratio matte type is still preferred by business users....... but most business users also don't need that x700 graphics card either.

 

thanx for all the info! and help!
now i'm just sad that there will be no update for the Z70Va, with the upcoming yonah notebooks..

 

It is sad i think overall the z70va was the best notebook asus ever made.

 

Kinda debatable... in my opinion, that title would go to the W3V.
It really depends what kind of notebook user you are...

 

I would agree with you if it werent for the W3Vs screen. i think the viewing angle is far to small. To me the screen really has no sweet spot but that is an issue with 14.1 wide screens in general otherwise i think it would be perfect. i think there was more to complain about on the w3v than the z70v or va. like heat screen headphone output weak speakers. now to me the only issue was the screen everyone is different though. But if you search through the forum i think the z70v was the least complained about laptop asus ever made. And alot of people bought them.

And even though i own a w2v i actually prefer small laptops like the W3V so im not biased.

 

but let's not forgot the red ghost...

 

yes, but the red ghost issue is gone now.

 

thats why i changed it to the z70v it didnt have the red ghost issue.

 

the crispy v6va is far more crisp, so if you like crispness than go for the crispyier v6va

but overall, even though I own a V6Va, the Z70Va is superior for the price

The V6Va is pricy and lacks a lot of practicaly useful features that the Z70Va has such as S-Video and modular bay but if aesthetics and portability really matter to you then it makes up for it. Plus the IPS screen is jaw droppingly amazing...and crisp...

ive recently discovered that the speakers are pretty amazing, if you are listining to them with the laptop in your lap or close to you. Because they are at the edge near the trackpad, it is an extremely immersive experience and they are loud and crisp...

 

LOL...I counted 6 times Zam said "crisp" or one of its derivatives... in ONE post!

 

haha awsome.. or should i say crisp
but i heard that the red ghost is still a factor for the Z70Va... which is the only reason im holding back.. (other than having a look at the upcoming asus yonah notebooks..) because i read that asus found the problem, which was a chip in the panel, but then later read that consumers who had returned their notebooks for repair had recieved them back still with the red ghost appearing.. and then read that the only way to be rid of this problem was if the bad stock of screens was distributed ( which makes no sense to me because then that would mean that they would be knowingly selling defective screeens..) but this last one i am totally confused about and unsure..

any input or corrections to my statements would be great because im soo confused about this red ghost situation...
thanx!

 

I ordered my z70va about 3 weeks ago from ISTNC and I see no ghosting at all. My screen is beautiful. I actually have to turn the brightness down to about 30% becuase it's TOO bright otherwise. I'm not a fan of glossy sceens, and after comparing the screen on my z70va to the screen on my brother's XPS140 (He got the upgraded screen...Colorshine or whatever it's called?), I much prefer mine, the brightness is just as high, and there's no annoying reflection.

Overall I'm extremely satisfied wiht my z70va, and I would highly recommend one to anyone in the market for a gaming laptop with style, excellent build quality, and portability. The z70va meets all those requirments.

 

I received my ASUS z70va this saturday, and I just can't stop recommending it. It's super fast (2ghz P-M, 2GB RAM, 80 GB 7,200 RPM, ATI x700 128 MB...), screen is JUST AMAZING, and weight is comfortable enough for lugging it around school. As the v6va it's also a head turner... and I paid $1,920 @ Geared2Play.com. The v6va is much more expensive, with less features.

I would say, if you got the money to buy and upgrade the v6va (for upgrading it like my z70va would be around $2,400 ~ 2,500 aprox.) then go for it. But I think the z70va has greater value and is just as beautiful. CONSIDER ALSO that, gvien the fact that the v6va is much thinner, heating issues could exist.

I'll be posting my z70va review soon!!

 

Don't comment on heating issues that you don't know about.... the units is thinner because it represents a year of advancement on Asus' side.... there is no heating issue and the difference between the v6va and z70va can't be summed up as the z70va is just a greater value..... for you, it may have been... but you're getting what you're paying for in the v6va... which may make it more expensive, and performance wise, you're going to pay more for a V6 than a Z70... but you're also carrying around more weight, not as nice of a chassis and a lower cost screen.... which is where the cost difference lies...

 

It COULD be just me, but I find that the V6va gets less warm and doesn't produce as much sound...

When gaming before, I always used the cooling pad, but with the V6va, I barely use it. I think it could be because the Z70va warms the left side, while the V6va does the opposite and for most games(for most righties), right hand = mouse, left hand = keyboard.

 

Ok... must I say sorry, or anything? ¬¬

I'm not arguing about which one's best: just expressing my opinion based on what I know about both systems. It's nice to hear some hard facts from someone who actually runs a company that sells these systems, but don't make an argument. It's just not right in a free forum :asus: :centrino:

 

You're right it's a free forum and everyone can have their opinion... but it's just that.... don't try to make it fact when you've probably never even seen a V6 in real life (I'm only assuming because your comment wouldn't have been made if you have used it)..... and therefore, simply telling people it's obviously a better value is more than an opinion.

.... I'm not going to fight anyone over this... I'm just saying opinions are one thing.... if it was a better value for you, that's fine... but the way it was said makes it look like you know the V6 and if that is assumed, the problems you suggest would seem like you have experience with these issues.

 

I really like the v6va, I just wish the ensemble came with a faster processor. I'm really torn between getting a v6va now with IPS or w3j w/ dual core.

 

I think most people will agree that 1.86 GHz on V6Va is more than most people need. Faster processor and even dual core will not make huge difference with the current generation of software.

 

I agree with you dugdug.

Wow this thread is still going on.

I'd say whichever suits your needs or whichever you like better.

The Z70Va is really great looking and very thin for its class, pictures don't do it justice.

The V6Va on the other hand is freakin' deeeeeeeeeeeeead sexy, but doesn't have S-Video output, or widescreen, two reasons why I wouldn't pick it.

Cheers,
Mike