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    V6Va temperature concerns

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by JackBauer, Jun 7, 2006.

  1. JackBauer

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    My V6Va seems to be running a bit hot, especially at the right palmrest area. According to the Asus Probe utility, the CPU temperature hovers between 51-54 Celsius and that's while the notebook is idle. My Sager 5720 never gets hotter than 44 Celsius even while gaming. Should I be concerned?
     
  2. ClearSkies

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    What's the ambient air temp? My z63 tends to run warm up faster now than it did over the winter (well, what passes for winter here :p )

    Remember, the V6 is only 1" thick, and has a lot of powerful components stuffed inside a tiny box; the Sager is larger and has more space for air circulation so its temps should be lower than your v6. People have raised the same issues about the w3 series, and the explanation is the same - small size plus powerful heat-generating components equals temps in the 50s-60s. Your idle temps are probably normal, unless they spike into the 70s somewhere.
     
  3. coriolis

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    Yeap, it idles at the high 47-53~ area. The fans are ALWAYS on at a minimum, I somehow can't get it to work with SpeedFan or any fan controlling programs yet.

    It gets quite annoying when you play games and the fan doesn't turn on, and you play at 80 degrees until you stop. The fan DOES turn on at full blast....once a month?

    I'm still trying to figure out how to make it work :(
     
  4. JackBauer

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    Okay, thanks for the info, guys. I'm not gonna game on mine, so I hope I never see temps over 65 C. Glad I've got the two-year warranty on this baby. ;) I can only imagine how hot the W3J gets with the X1600!! :eek:

    Cori: Have you tried the Centrino Hardware Control utility?
     
  5. hoimin

    hoimin Notebook Consultant

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    he practically wrote the book on it =P

    CHC will lower your processor temps but it won't do much for your right palmrest heat. that's hard drive.
     
  6. ClearSkies

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    CHC isn't supposed to work as well on the Duo's and give the same benefits in heat/battery effects as the P-Ms - something about Intel locking the min voltage or multipliers so you can't get much below 0.9V (can't remember where I read this)?
     
  7. hoimin

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    luckily, the V6Va is pentium M
     
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    You'd think I could remember difference between the Va and J processors, wouldn't you :rolleyes: ?

    Hoimin is correct - you might want to try it and get some lower temps. I've got mine set at 0.71V min and 1.100V max; that gets the job done.
     
  9. Geared2play.com

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    Nothing to worry about. Thats exactly the way its suposed to be. Your sager is a monster bahemith with (as far as i recall) multiple fans compared to the sleek and light v6. You are indeed where you should be
     
  10. JackBauer

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    Good and reassuring news. Thanks!
     
  11. TheUndertow

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    Not very, really...keep in mind that it is a bit thicker than the V6 series...the air coming out of the vent is very warm of course, but the laptop overall is not very warm...You feel it for the most on the right palm rest, but that's it.
     
  12. coriolis

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    Another concern I often have is that it overheats alot, and very often. The problem would not be there if the fans actually went faster then 20%-30% of its maximum speed....
     
  13. JackBauer

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    Uh-oh, Cori. Now you've got me wondering if I should keep it. What happens when it overheats?
     
  14. hoimin

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    do you have a notebook cooler? just to tide you over until the speedfan guy gets around to hooking you up with a compatible version...
     
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    ^ Wow - I didn't realize that was the case with the fans. Are they just not built high test enough?

    It's such a small form factor though. That's an engineering challenge...that's for sure.
     
  16. coriolis

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    I've heard it at 100%, its not loud but blows lots of air out. Though it goes to 100% for 2-3 secs before it shuts itself down from overheating.

    I hope its just an isolated case, if not, perhaps some kind of fan control can work on it.
     
  17. dukz

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    Hi,

    I got my V6V to a service center last week to get something fixed, and they made the problem even worse by breaking my motherboard. They replaced it and I got it a few days ago, and I realized that they gave me a V6Va motherboard, which means I got an x700 video card.haha So I got a free upgrade. Then again, I now have heat problems even when I'm idle. I'm thinking this has something to do with the BIOS. From the WinFlash Utility, I have this information:

    ROM Type: PMC 49FL004T WH
    Model: V6Va
    Version: BIOS Revision 1004.001
    Date: 10/12/2005

    It seems that the V6V bios is newer. But I can't flash it because of the model. I never got this heat problem with my V6V, just now with this new motherboard. Any solutions on how to do this? Should I contact ASUS? Thos with V6Va, please do check your BIOS version and see if it's the same as this one. Thank you. It gets really annoying. Btw, I've used NHC for quite sometime now, but whenever I check the "Samsung P35 compatible fan control" checkbox, it hangs. So I've never checked that since on my old one, I never got this problem, just now.
     
  18. ClearSkies

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    The NHC fan control only works with the couple of models that the author lists - you can't use it on the V6 or most other current Asus models. Undervolting is about as much as you can do to manage the heat issues on the V6 - whether/how the ATI control works on the x700 to lower the gpu temps is something that others can better address.
     
  19. WuHT

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    so there is no way to cool harddrive ? Kinda lame cuz even at 4200, the heat is noticeable ..... pretty much 44 degrees for me when having a game.
     
  20. apes

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    my V6va runs at 51 celius when surfing the internet, the fan hasn't gone on yet. Does this seem ok? The cpu threshold is set at 95 celius, does that mean the fan will not turn on until it hits 95 c?
     
  21. ClearSkies

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    44C is quite cool - my 5400HD routinely goes into the low 50s with minor effort just sitting here on my lap (OK, the intake vents are slightly blocked there, but that's my fault).

    The warmth is noticeable because you have a 1" thin unit made of metal and there is very little distance (something like 1/32" or so) between the HD and the top casing - and metal conducts heat; plus, you have a dedicated gpu in there heating up too. HDs will heat up when they're used - the only option you really have is to put the thing on a cooling pad to generally cool the unit as a whole. Warmth of the case is the tradeoff that one has to make when using a highly engineered tool like the V6, where everything is crammed into a teeny box with minimal room for air circulation - it will not overheat, but neither will it stay at room temp because the heat has to go somewhere :)

    51 is just fine; there's no reason to panic until it gets into the 70s, which it won't under standard uses. The fan is tied to the CPU temp, not HD. It will turn on when the BIOS says it is supposed to - the only way for the CPU to hit 95 is if the fans stay off, you push the unit hard, and the vents are totally blocked or full of goo(all at the same time ;)) Enjoy your machine - it's truly a remarkable piece of work.
     
  22. dukz

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    Before I had my motherboard changed (V6V), the temperature never got this high. When I'm playing games right now, it goes over 90C sometimes. Before, it was just at the high 70's. So I'm thinking it's the BIOS or something. Thanks. Btw, I've reached a hundred a few days ago I think. Weird.
     
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    Btw, I have found that if I go into the nVidia control panel and turn the powermizer settings down all the way, the heat seems to lower a bit. I haven't measured it but it seems a bit cooler. Turning it down is fine with me since I don't really get any benefit out of the card (don't game etc). This is on my V6J, I assume you have the same options in the V6V/V6Va but I don't know that for sure.
     
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    What software are you using to get those temps? At 100 things should have started to melt.
     
  25. Kiwibru

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    Wow, that is hot! Even when I play HL2 my V6Va never gets above 52C. How many processes you got going there?
     
  26. dukz

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    Just Warcraft III. My processor is only a Pentium 740 (1.73GHz)... it shouldn't even reach that high. Weird. I set custom dynamic switching on and changed the max multiplier to 10x to help. It rarely gets to 95C, but it does sometimes. Usually it's the low 90s.
     
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    You get those temps while you're gaming on a flat desktop surface? I'd first make sure that the fans are working, and the vents aren't blocked with something either internal or external.... those temps over prolonged periods will overstress the hardware and shorten the lifespan. Without adequate ventilation, a 740 can easily get into that temp range under load. Alternatively, the software you're using to monitor the temps is faulty.
     
  28. dukz

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    I'm using NHC to monitor it. Yeah, I'm playing on a flat glass surface without anything blocking the vent. Fans seem to be working. NHC and Asus Probe 2 says it's at 62C right now. PC Probe says fan is running at 2400RPM, though I can't feel the air flowing though. It goes higher at 65C I think. At 2400RPM, should I be able to feel air coming out?

    I just checked it, it goes to 3500RPM when it's above 65 or 70C and that's the time I hear the fan running (loudly) and feel some air coming out.