V6v heat problem resolved! But...

Hi, my heat problem on my v6v is resolved! Now, it works at 68º insted of 73º when i´m gaming, and stays at 50º in normal use. Now i can put my hand in the left palm rest, without burning my hand! Even when the cpu is at 68º. I use CHC to control voltge, it works now at 1.036V (1.86ghz) estable. The problem, in my opinion stills in the fan control. Because, ati gpu and the cpu share the same passive cooler, so also when i'm not gaming the notebook is about at 50º, with fan off. If the fan was on, the temp maybe was at 43º. Maybe with the next bios the problem is resolved... I hope. Thanks peejaybee, sma and makasin this one share the same opinion about the fan control

 

awesome.
I cant wait for another BIOS update though.
God I cannot wait till i get my V6!
Its coming on thursday hopefully.
:asus: :asus: :asus:

 

Just to get it right:

You've set the voltage to 1,036 V when the multiplier is 14 (instead of the 1,308 which is standard).
Have you changed any of the other voltages?
What stability testing have you done. Games, CHC, etc???

I haven't tried undervolting before, so naturally i'm a bit weary... however i would like to have my V6 run cooler.

 

My w3v which also has a 1.86 ghz processor is undervolted to 1.068v at 14x and .700v at 6x. I have found this to be very stable with no problems at all. I actually found it to be stable at 14x at 1.036 but I went two levels up from that just to be safe.

Generally if you test your cpu overnight using prime95 and dont have any errors then the undervolting should not cause any problems.

 

I only use that voltage at 14x. I test my stability with CHC, Prime 95, and games like, GTA San Andreas, Halo, Counter Strike etc... I tested also with pcmark'02 and 3dmark'03 only to check some benchmarks. The V6V never freeze or crash. Yes 'The R', the default voltage for my v6v is 1.308v, 14x (and for every v6v with cpu 1.86ghz(?)).I did'nt test it with the multiply at 6x, but i will try it ofcorse. I tested a lower voltage but the v6v crashed. Only for some details, i reached, in battery life, with speedstep activated to minimum, and CHC to battery life, 3h and 52m!!!! And corse, Power 4 at e-mail/office. Other think, i live in Portugal, and is very hot in here (normal ambient temps 32º). Winter is comming and temps will colling down! Makasin, u will love V6v... This is my first notebook, but i search, and test with a lot of other pc's and other manufactores like acer , HP,Tsunami, Packard Bell, and others. Asus is the best manufactor of notebooks, in my opinion. Construction is the best. :asus:

 

Isn't that where the hard drive is? That's just a guess. So your CPU/GPU temps wouldn't bring down the temp of the HD, which means a bios revision wouldn't help you there either.

 

I just got my V6!!!!!!
its awesome I love it.
Its even thinner than I imagined

 

How do you find the heat?

 

its fine.
I dont know what people are complaining about.
Yeah of course it gets warm a little bit, but never hot.
And what do people expect? its one inch thick!
the heats gotta go somehwere.
but anyways, I really love this things, its so great.
It blew me away.
I think i have an old BIOS, so my fan is always on, so the heats not an issue.
My CPU runs at 46C at 800mhz 0.7volts
otherwise, when on AC power, it runs around 55C.
God im so happy right now, Its so fast and beatiful.

 

welcome to the world of the v6. You'll be even more amazed by how cool it looks once you pull all the stickers off.

Also, though you're not annoyed with the heat, if you switch over to CHC, you'll be even happier than with power 4gear. Also, when you get rid of norton and replace it with something like AVG (which is free), you'll notice the system runs faster and boots and shuts down faster.

Have fun.

 

AMEN! ....... some people must have really thin skin or expect more than realistically possible...... I love it when some members just realize they have a duty to come back to the forum after they get their notebook and they're satisfied with it...... We all owe you a lot for that. Most people (and I'd have anyone look into how many regulars have stopped posting in the last few months) ... once they get their notebook and they love it...... they USE it and don't have the time or feel the need to post any more. So naturally only those who are unhappy post.......... like anything else.

Thanks for that!

 

No problem!
I really wanted to tell you guys my opinion on this sweet box because if it wasnt for this forum, I would have never even known that Asus made notebooks.
Id like to thank everyone for answering all my questions.
I really enjoy the V6.
It is the best looking machine I have ever seen with my eyes and it definately gets noticed in a crowd of dells and iBooks.
One comment on the heat issue.
This notebook is super thin and I have seen countless Powerbooks and Ibooks that get MUCH MUCH MUCH hotter than the V6.
Those things are able to fry eggs.
Yes, the heat is a little noticable on the right palmrest, but it doesnt bother me at all.
If you dont think about it, its not there.
My system is also very silent and the battery lasts for a very good amount of time.
I honestly dont know what I would do with all that time.
My dad owns a IBM T42, and in my opinion, the v6 is about the same quality and looks and feels much better.

there are only a couple small downsides:
-trackpad buttons dont have a lot of travel, so its hard to "feel" them, but im adjusting.
-speakers are right under my palms, so the sound can get a bit muffled.

:centrino: :asus: :asus:

EDIT:
Just played around it some more and I am really pleased with the graphics performance too.
Im running Milkdrop (a really graphically intense and sexy winamp visualizer) at fully native resolution 1400x1050 with everything maxed out and it goes silky smooth.
Also, a note on the audio portion:
I think the v6 has really really good sound output compared to most laptops.
I connected it to my Grado S60s and my sennheiser HD570s which are both pretty decent entry-level audiophile grade cans and the sound is very full and detailed.

 

People are complaining about because some guys update bios (like me) and asus put a limit to the fan. it only goes at 1200rpm, and is off over temps about 50º(cpu). In my opinion do not update your bios Makasin! Unless u read about a new bios released and read a opinion about fan control resolved in this forum (or another). Take a look again about fan control with bios 1002A in this thread posted by me: (v6v bios 1002a - 09-01-2005, 09:32 AM). And congratulations, isn't it a great notebook? I love it! Stay cool and enjoy it.

 

You should check the asus forums on how to revert back to BIOS 801.
THats what im running and I dont seem to have too many heat issues.

 

Well see.. it's hard to keep people happy........ people complain that a fan is too loud and believe it doesn't need to be spinning as fast as it is...... so the few people who complain about that is really all the folks online see...... so they tweak the bios a bit to slow the fan down and well... we do live on earth (but I'm pretty sure it would be the same everywhere)...... if you slow the fan down it's pushing less CFM and therefore not removing all the heat........ ok.... now another problem..... It's give and take and it's one or other....... I know what you're saying but think of the people on the other side and you tell me who the correct party is. I'm on your side.. the fan should allowed to go up to whatever speed it needs to push the air as best as it can. I have perfect hearing and I've never really been in perfectly quiet environment (and I live in the country)..... birds churping outside are louding than the fan on these notebooks......... the white noise coming from an electrical device like a monitor drowns out the "Swooshing" sound of can fan under normal conditions......


... people will always find something that they think could changed.

 

if i upgrade the bios to utilize that ati function of using more system ram for the x600, is that the same bios that stops the fans at a certian rpm?

 

yes.
so we are basically waiting for asus to release a new BIOS that combines the best of both worlds.
An either controllable fan or one thats more sensitive to heat AND a bios that uses the hypermemory.
Proportable, do you have any contact with ASUS?
Could you find out if/when they will release a new BIOS?
Or is it possible that you could tell them about the heat problems if they arent already aware of them?

 

The fan isn't sensitive to heat, the fan is controlled by the computer and the computer uses sensors that monitor the heat of the cpu..... the bios basically has a control list.....

ie: at this temp kick the fan to this rpm..... etc... Asus will never let users fully control the fans within the notebooks because then they're responsible for any damage that might be caused.....

Now, of course I have contact with Asus.... probably more than I would like......... the thing is all bios' are programmed in Taiwan no other office in any other country is allowed to mess with them and install them on any system without Taiwan's ok... A bios is bios is basically given to Fremont to upload to their support site, so they only get it a week or so before it goes live. I assure you though that they know about this.. it's why they fixed it in the first place. But then again, you're only supposed to mess with a bios if you have a problem and you already know what the new one will fix/change. The new bios was for people who said the fan was too loud.... so those are the type of people who would update it. I'd go back to the last one if I were you, for the time being at least.

 

well i do still have the 801 BIOS, which keeps my v6 reasonably cool, the only thing I really want is the Hypermemory feature.
Its not urgent of course, I dont NEED it, but it would speed up the 3d acceleration a tad, which wont hurt.