Vertex SSD Performance On G51J

Guys, I'm scratching my head on this one, please have a look at the comparisons between the 120GB Vertex on my I7 Desktop and my G51J Notebook.
So far I have tried a ton of stuff to see if I can get the 4K Read speeds up, but to no avail.
- Clean Install of W7 from Asus Recovery Disc.
- Clean install W7 from W7 OEM disc.
- Running the Vertex through Diskpart.exe
- No Partition on the 120Gb Vertex.
Last thing I tried was updating the G51J BIOS to 207.T10, that didn't make any difference.
Please advise if I'm missing something...

Vertex On Asus G51J



Vertex in Desktop



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Let me know if thier is something I'm missing....

 

The drive controller on your desktop is superior to the the one on your laptop chipset.

 

Fair enough....figured that much out after all the "monkeying" around here this morning. Both are in ahci Mode but as far as I can tell, both are using the same Driver.
Any way to change it? Would very much like to get the OCZ runninig on this G51J as it does on my Dektop....or will I simply have to live with it?

 

It's more of the hardware for the drive controller on your chipset, not the software driver interfacing with it.

Make sure you have an Intel driver handling your sata drive controller in device manager and not the microsoft one. Outside of that, there is nothing you can do to make it faster in the laptop chipset.

 

^^^ Device Manager shows the Microsoft Driver version 6.1.7600.16385 dated 21st June 06 for all of my Disk Drives and my Standard AHCI Serial ATA Controller on both of my Desktop and Asus Notebook....?.......
Unsure where to download the Intel Drivers and how to go about installing them.

 

You have to use the M$ driver for TRIM to work.

 

Ok...on my Asus Notebook, under Device Manager:
- IDE ATA/ATAPI SATA AHCI Controller - 6 Port / Properties/Driver - shows "Intel Version 8.9.2 1002 Aug 7th 09
- Disc Drives / OCZ Vertex / Properties / Driver - shows the standard MS 6.1.7600.16385 dated 21st June 06

Does all that look "normal" or shound the OCZ Vertex Disc Drive / Properties / Driver also be "Intel"...?

 

I am really curious about this because just yesterday someone floated the idea that laptop chipsets are scaled back and won't allow full capabilities of drives, specifically ssd's. Im not a believer...especially in a gaming laptop such as that.

I'm interested because ... well see my sig and u will see....trying to fit a monster drive into this puppy.

 

Well Les...don't know what to tell you...the numbers above speak for themselves....the OCZ 120GB Vertex "smokes" in my Desktop Rig, but substantially slower results in the G51J.
I almost grabbed another Intel G2 80GB (whats in my Desktop as well), but this Vertex 120Gb was only $300.....the 160GB Intel G2 here in Canada runs around $550...ouch!!

 

everything in laptops are scaled back a bit due to power consumption and heat issues with laptops...

 

Throw the Intel in and lets see the scores....also l3G...lets see your scores on that ssd. If any machine would tell the story truthfully, the G73 will.

Do a test of CrystalDiskMark and post it. I was pulling 225r/145w on my M1340 with its Sammy...

 

^^^ Nope...my Intel has my OS on it in my Primary Rig...not going to rip that one out..no point.

The Scores above are relevent to the G51J in relation to my Primary Desktop.
I'm quite sure the intel G2 would likely have the same results just a lot slower Writes then the OCZ Vertex...that I do know!

the problem I'm looking at isn't the Sequential Write / Reads, those Scores are fine, in fact all the Scores are fine except the 4K Read....
AHCI MS Driver = approx. 29 MB/Sec
AHCI Intel Driver = approx. 16 MB/sec

My Notebook isnt the G73...its the G51J....

 

This is true, but it also costs you a lot of performance on the drive. Use the Intel driver and TRIM the drive with the Intel SSD toolkit.

 

Guess the question is, can the Intel Matrix Storage Driver be replaced a MS Driver?

 

I see this Thread is slowly "dying" deep within this Forum, can't keep up with "BSOD, Benchmark, CPU Throttling Threads"....obviously looking for some "real Tech Support".....anyhow
Anyone looking to purchase an SSD for the asus G51J or G51JX Notebooks, I would try an Intel G2 SSD prior to going for the OCZ Vertex SSD. You can check my Thread over on HWC Forum, lots of help provided by AkG, but no way to get the Vertex to perform in my notebook like it performs on my Desktop.
Tried everything, but low 4K Reads and low HD Tune results on the Notebook, lightening fast on the Desktop...

The only thing I can think at this point is my Notebook and Desktop, although both in AHCI Mode:
1. Desktop I7 Primary Rig: My Computer>Manage>Device Manager>IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers> Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller> Properties> Driver "shows Microsoft 6.1.7600.16385 21st June 06"

2. Asus G51J Notebook: My Computer>Manage>Device Manager>IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers> Intel(R) PCHM SATA AHCI Controller 6 Port> Properties> Driver "shows Intel(R) PCHM SATA AHCI Controller 6 Port Ver: 8.9.2.1002 Date: 8/7/2009

As you can see, although both are AHCI, one is MS and one is Intel. I have no idea how or if I can bypass / update the SATA controller Driver on my Notebook, to see if the MS Driver would provide the same great results on my Notebook.

At this point I would be curious as to the results of an Intel G2 SSD on the Notebook running the Intel(R) SATA AHCI Controller Driver.

Anyhow folks, you can check out the here http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...-g51j-notebook-please-see-results-thread.html

I am tempted at this point to pull the Intel G2 80GB SSD out of my Primary Rig and throw it into my Notebook and run the same tests, just to see if the 4K Reads and HD tune are better.....if anyone has any further suggestions feel free..

 

My Intel G2 80 GB SSD in a g60j ( same board as g50j)

 

You know something Breezer, finally, someone Posting something "constructive"...and you just saved me literally hours tearing my G2 80GB ot of my Desktop, installing into this Notebook, re-installing W7 on both this Notebook and onto my Vertex, only to find out the Intel G2 80GB is about the same "4K Read speeds" and HD Tune as my Vertex....thanks man, mucho appreciated!!!

Guess its simply this Notebook Board / Chipset.....nothing we can do about it.