W2jb has arrived...

It's kind of like when some Mercedes come with a tape deck as standard - it just doesn't belong there.

 

We can probably offer upgrade for the screen but then we have to take on the warranty and raise the price by 300$ or so. Doubt anyone will be paying almost 3000$ for the version they want. Oohh well i wasnt very happy about the w2j anyways. Like i said they are hard to move

 

Yeah...... I thought about that as well Ed, but it's not worth it......

 

ASUS is a really smart company when it comes to advertising. i recently picked up a copy "Laptop" magazine and ASUS has an ad in it for the W3J,
W2J, A6Jc, and the W5F. In the ads they only describe thw W2J as having a 17" Ultrabright Widescreen Display. I find it funny how they generalize their specs because it leaves them room to make slight changes as in the W2J it's still a 17" display, however the resolution is only XGA rather than SXGA. And we can't really hold them accountable for that because esepcially in this magazine ad because they only advertised the screen as a "17" Ultrabright Widescreen Display." They are very general with the specs for the W3J as well. I'll list them below

W3J - Performance in Style
-Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology
-14" Ultrabright Widescreen Display
-1024 MB DDR2 SDRAM
-100 GB Hard Drive
-ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1600 256 MB
-8x Super Multi DVD-RW DL
-Microsoft Windows XP Pro

And for anyone who wants to check out the ad just pickup the May 2006 issue of "Laptop" there website is www.laptopmag.com. Also the ad is on page 39.

 

Yes we can hold them accountable. Justin just did by canceling his order of W2JB's. From what I understand Asus gives the resellers a signed document stating the configuration of the laptops so that the resellers can advertise the final spec's. Asus changed the LCD screen's to something lower in the W2jb's After he already received a final spec sheet. Jason told them to go shove there W2jb's up there distribution pipe. When they give Jason the signed spec sheet it is not general its very specific and Asus should be held accountable for the final spec's, No matter what any magazine add says. The magazine adds are most likely less specific because different areas of the world receive different spec's.

 

Speaking as a lawyer, I'd have to say that it definitely is NOT the case that ASUS can incur no liability simply by switching model numbers and hoping no one notices. While not a classic bait & switch (since the sale was not officially consummated yet), there are other legal doctrines on which to base a claim. Justin, if you are going to (or have) taken a large financial loss due to ASUS's conduct, I'd say it's worth talking to a lawyer about it. There are other complications though that make it not quite so straightforward -- for example, it might be Fremont that is "responsible" and not ASUS -- but a lawyer in this area would be able to ask the right questions to figure all of that out.

Now, there are other non-legal reasons why a lawsuit may not be the way to go. Obviously a lawsuit creates a lot of animosity, and your business partnership would go sour. Lawsuits are also expensive, so your loss should really be significant if you're planning to pursue legal action. Though that doesn't necessarily have to be just financial loss; loss of reputation and customer goodwill would count, too. And of course you might lose the lawsuit. All things to talk about with your lawyer if you want to go that far.

 

J, I should have contacted you and met up this morning. I was in town cleaning some stuff out of my old apartment and had to down to the Potomac Yard Best Buy this morning. I'm up in Rockville now on my way over to Timpano (one of my favorite spots).

..... Asus isn't getting the sale and the only pressure I'm willing to put on them is now only not buying a particular item, but the fact that they know how many sold orders we already had..... because they ordered in enough on our speculation which grew as things got delayed..... You don't s*it where you eat is how the saying goes.... I got my point across and I know that I suggested to all customers whose orders I voided, to give Asus a call and let them know how they felt. I thought something on that personal level might do a couple things... First, realize that a certain numbers of units which constitutes one sale to us is really so many individual people that will be affected. Second, it's a good time waster and for busy people who sometimes can't even find time to talk to me or others...... a spike in those unexpected calls will draw some attention to how their actions affect others.

 

yep very true. If you detrimentally and in good faith relied on their promise there are various contract remedies you could pursue. Even if Asus' acceptance of your offer to buy is consumated by their shipping of goods, their shipping of different goods is a modification of contract under the UCC....

/goes back to studying for his Contracts exam...

 

any updates on this situation...any word from asus?

 

Looking on the bright side of things, well, games are at least more playable at WXGA+ resolution. I'm personally okay with the change and am in fact more interested in the W2j for that reason. Was never a major fan of WSXGA+ you see.

 

I never owned an Asus but based on many positive reviews found on these forums I was going to take a chance on one without seeing one in person.

I was sooo very close to ordering the W2J, but wanted to wait at least for a review before ordering.
I am sure glade I didn't waste my money now.
Pretty dissapointed (more like disgusted) with the screen swap issue.
I got so sick of waiting for it with original ETA being supposedly end of March, then mid April, then May.
I really needed a laptop and waited so long for it but snapped and just went and bought a 20" iMac (1st Mac and quite impressed) for the wife.
I still plan on getting a laptop but at least I can wait now. Maybe its for the better since I can now wait to see how good the new AMDs will be.

I was looking for a good build quality, lightest,thinnest 17" laptop for use as a DTR and occassional travel.
I wanted something that could handle various graphics programs, perhaps some cad, web design, etc and must have an excellent screen which W2 supposedly had.
I would not consider anything less than WSXGA+ for a 17" notebook .
The W2J seemed to fit those requirements but now that Asus ruined a nearly ideal laptop I don't know what I'll do.
Maybe I'll just get a 17" MacBookPro and dual boot.
I have yet to understand why so few PC manufacturers fail to produce (or disinterested) sleek, light, well made 17" notebooks.
I wish Lenovo made a thin 17" notebook with their build quality and durability.

Anyway, as you can tell, I am pretty disgusted with Asus and the whole W2J screen situation.
Is there email or phone number where Asus rep can be reached?

 

ASUS Notebook Sales
1.888.678.3688

 

radmax, a notebook that currently meets your specifications is the hp nx9420. it even weighs less than the w2j. however, it's definitely not as stylish as the w2j or the macbook pro. it does come much cheaper, though.

 

Canadian buyers, not to worry, you can order your w2j from a reputable UK Asus dealer (check Asus web site) and get it with only paying canadian tax but no duties (no duties from the UK to Canada) . You get the world asus warranty so you can still get it fixed in Toronto or an outside UK depot. And you get your higher resolution screen to! My plan anyway. xga hehe, a joke!

 

Yeah... no duties from the US either (a little thing called NAFTA)... local and federal taxes are always going to apply though.. but shipping would be considerably cheaper....

But no duties from the UK, huh... I guess it's because the queen owns the land your house sits on.... UK/US duties are like 15-20%.....

 

"Yeah... no duties from the US either (a little thing called NAFTA)... local and federal taxes are always going to apply though.. but shipping would be considerably cheaper....

But no duties from the UK, huh... I guess it's because the queen owns the land your house sits on.... UK/US duties are like 15-20%....."

Proportable...

In response to your post above , I would much prefer the Queen to be my puppet and pay no duties then to be controlled by war and people that blind the country into believing they are the greatest. Yet every time Americans travel they do it more under a Canadian Flag. hmm not to surprised.

Forgetting that, buying from UK is cool and if some of you read back ,some one else stated a while back they purchased from UK to Canada with only having to pay Canadian Taxes that is it( yes and exchange on Pound) Hmmm but since the Canadian dollar is almost at par with the US it wont be so hard

 

Please dont even turn this into a freaking political discussion. Controlled by war give me a break. Im sure you were real glad we had a knack for war back in WW2. and we dont think we are the greatest we know. I mean isnt being the greatest at a sport being the best correct. so in that sence we have the most powerful nation in the world both in power and in economics. so tell me again how we arent the greatest? Maybe we wont be on top forever but for at least 100 more years i think we will be ok.

And while you think we are a country of war maybe you prefer the UN a group that sits there and talks for decades about and issue then does nothing to resolve it. While we do make mistakes ill stay on the side of the country that will back up what it says and not just sit there and talk about **** or sanctions for decades and does nothing to help. But then again europe does just like to sit there and whine about everything.

OK im done bashing time for bed.

 

I had the screen replaced on my W2v due a pixel issue and when ASUS replaced it they put in a WXGA matte screen. It was certainly brighter than the original, but it was unacceptable on such a fine machine. I had it replaced with the WSXGA glare type screen. I'm astonished that ASUS would do this to their flagship.

Anyone in the US with any sense to buy an ASUS notebook would know what the screen resolution is and as soon as they find out it's WXGA, off they go to another manufacturer. I'd love to see the sales figures of the W2j compared to the W2v a year from now.

 

I cant believe they replaced your screen with a xga matte. Werent u pissed as hell?

 

No, I'm easy going and just chalked it up to one of those crazy things that happen in life. The screen is perfect now!

 

I just dont understand how they could replace the screen with one thats does not come with that model.

 

Anyone know of vendors in UK that will ship sxga to the US. Is there any reason not to do this? Such as warranty etc?

 

tuner...... the digital tuner won't work in the US.

 

I have a question..

is the Asus W2v worth buying even though you dont game much and multitaks a little

currently the price is 1999 USD at a site

 

well, i think there might be better options for you than the w2v. maybe you should post in the what should i buy forum for some suggestions. that said, the w2v is still a very nice machine. at c9tech.com, it has it for 2095 not including the $200 mail-in rebate.

 

They're trying to get rid of them and you never get a better deal than when they're way overdue from the point they should have sold out...... $1999 is far under original cost and at this point, asus typically eats all of their profit as well... not a normal situation and one that rarely presents itself... so if you want it, I'd take advantage.

 

As nice as that Asus W2V looks

I just ended up ordering the Asus ASUS A7J--R003H

hopefully I made the right decision

 

This is something good for me... i want a w2j with a wxga+ .. Sorry GUys.


So Justin... You say the TV tuner Doesnt Work?

 

The W2 as a product (build/materials/design) is nicer and has a lot more features... but you can't beat the A7 price..

 

How does the A7J screen compare to the W2J?

 

Well the WXGA+ screen that's on the current W2jb that came in last week is still better than the A7j --- same res, but it's brighter because it has two backlights...... I'd still prefer the higher res on the W2, but right now we don't have the option.

In terms of importing a model... The reason we don't have the digital tuner because the tuner doesn't work with media center edition and the US wanted MCE over Asus' home theater software (and rightfully so)... also, the digital tuner is a hybrid so it picks up analog and digital, but it won't pick up or work with our digital. So, technically it'll work, but not with MCE and not with our digital......

So, if you wanted to stay with xp pro.. analog tv will and should work.. but that's it. If you want to put MCE on it, it won't work.......

 

Prob. not a big enough screen for the W3js to get a dual backlight huh?

 

what if the resolution for w2jb stays forefver...

 

can someone tell me which UK/Euro websites i can check out to purchase the w2j online (wsxga+ res.)... will they ship to the US ? cause id be willing to go through the extra hastle to find it...

also will the tv tuner work in the US then for cable tv ? and how much more would the w2 be in the uK?

 

Man, sorry to say this, but you sound like a child : where I can buy W2? How much will it cost in $?Will they ship this to US? Can I have a lolly pop? I mean, come on, use google and you will find ALL answers you want. If not, find a Asus reseller in UK and write email to them. Do I really have to say all this stuff? I'm a moderator on forum which has almost 60.000 members and for ppl who behaviour like you we give 10% (when you reach 100% - BAN) and couple of days with no permision to write posts. So think about it. This forum is VERY VERY liberal in this matter but I think even here moderators have limits of patience.