W2v ranked #2 as "best luxery laptop" by PC World...

The W2v came in 2nd only to the Acer TravelMate 8100 in PC World's latest "Luxery Desktop Replacement" list. Anyone who's seen the 8100 know's it's only on the list because it's 35% cheaper in price.... and well... you get what you pay for...

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,123405,00.asp

 

Wow! That's excellent! I highly agree - the Acer only won because of the price. Kudos to Asus!

 

I think there's a misprint about the score.The link given by PROProtable says a score of 84 but if you click the W2 link on PCW on the link given on the website it says 85. meh!

 

Thats lame that they would rank the "Luxery Desktop Replacement" category based on price...

Imagine someone saying that a toyota is better than a bmw because it is half the price

 

People do say Toyota is better than a BMW because it is half the price. But they aslo so not care about driving a "sport sedan" and rather drive a reliable Buick so for them yes it is a better car. For me I'll stick with BMW.

 

.... I guess it's more like what you're getting for your money.... now, bmw isn't going to build a car like toyota, but for toyota to sell they need to give you the most bang for your buck............ It may score number one, but if number two is 30% more and it has at least 30% more value... and you can afford it........ are you really going to buy the toyota? .... I didn't think so.

.... I'm just glad the really big names didn't scoop up first and second place..... with the amount of money they advertise, they usually get those spots. I was once told by an editor that their "reviews were imparitial" ......... beyond the reviews, if you pay for it, you'll get it......... usually a comparison chart they don't consider a review.......... but I bet if there was an editors choice for that same list, the editior would be picking a dell or something towards the bottom of the list.

 

Hey let's not badmouth Toyota...remember they make Lexus too, and they're rated as one of the most reliable cars.

 

.... yeah but without getting too far off topic - reliable as yet still being "average" are two very different things...... Lexus, Infinity and Acura still fall behind BMW, Audi and Benz in actual quality and then when you look at interiors....... even Benz and BMW fall way behind Audi with the Japanese makers at or slight above Benz and BWM's standards......

Basically, to look at what I said about really does connect with the laptops in the way that specs, features and lets say "looks" only go so far....... in terms of build quality and quality of materials..... that's where one product jumped leaps and bounds infront of another - exactly why the W2 really should be #1 on that list regardless of the price of the Acer........ if we're talking "luxery" how can a $1,600 laptop that really is a cheap price for a big desktop replacement - be considered "luxery"... usually luxery infers a bit of exclusivity..... better materials and workmanship demand higher prices and higher prices keep away the people who can't afford them....

 

Well, if you look at the rating: Battery life might have something to do with W2's second place. Acer almost has twice the battery life as the Asus. So its not only moneywise..........

 

I absolutely cannot fathom how they managed to get 4 hours out of the Acer 8100. From what I've read in reviews, 3.5 hours with the screen dimmed super low and wireless off is the absolute max.

 

No where in any spec I've read on the 8100 states it's hard drive speed - that always makes you assume the lowest speed because if it were faster, it would be a selling point. So, if it has a 4200rpm hard drive... that changes the life a bit. Also, it's sold with a 1.86 or a 2.0ghz cpu...... i'm not sure which one they used in the review, but for the price - i'm guessing it was the 1.86. The 2.1 is going to kill the battery a bit more, but I assume the hard drive speed and the quality and brightness of the W2's screen is the only reason the battery life was THAT different......

 

just curious guys, will a faster CPU affect batterylife negatively?

also if i take a 2.13ghz vs a 1.86ghz but underclock them both to 800mhz for batterylife longetivity, will there be a difference in batterylife?


Thanks in advance,

MysticGolem

 

... yeah, if you're running full blast on both of them...... if they're both running on automatic settings though and running the same program - the life should be the same because say for email they should both be running at about 800 mhz...... So whether you do it on purpose or just with automatic settings, no...... however some battery tests are focused on life under max load... some aren't.... but just put it this way.. the faster it's running, the less life it'll have... you can play with it to make it suit your needs.

 

I gotta go with PROPortable on this, battery life shouldn't be the only reason the Acer is #1.
To me, the simple fact that the W2V has a 17" screen vs the Acer 15.4 is a no-brainer.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/acer-tm-8100/
This link compares the 8100 to a ASUS M6Ne, which I dont know much about.

BDR

 

Not to mention that these are all mostly desktop replacement notebooks anyway...so battery life is an immediate "luxury" in that sense.

 

Pretty awesome! Acer being # 1....I think that's just plain wack! :asus:

 

What I meant with my toyota allusion is that when you rank things based on the word "Luxery" price should not be a factor at all;the whole point behind luxery is getting the best possible without money being a problem.

As for why the acer is #1?... The review mentions the keyboard of the Asus being a problem. PCWorld says that the only reason that the w2v isnt number one is that the keyboard doesn't tilt up at the back and hence it isnt ergonomic. This, of course is subject to opinion and since I haven't really seen any complaints about this anywhere else I think that all the additional features of the w2v should really make it number one. In fact, simply the size and weight of the w2v should make it number one since 7.5 lbs for a 17'' laptop with so many features is just amazing.

Anyway, every else seems to think the same about the w2v so there's no real use in preaching to the choir here.

 

Right... really being anywhere on that list is good for any of those notebooks because it does mean more sales........ but I think we're thinking differently on this luxery thing..... Technically some magazine would call voodoo's systems "luxery" when the only luxery about them is really they're painted and cost a small fortune to own them. "Luxery" isn't something we really see in the computer business very often because systems are built to the specs of what people will buy.......... it's not like a car that could just have smaller runs... for a company like Asus, their "small runs" may still be too big for a very high priced system just because they aren't totally mainstream at this time.

... I think the meaning of luxery is (is this is how you meant it) ..... basically going all out without worrying about what it costs in the end..... someone will buy it because of the extra attention to detail and features and materials..... With that said, a notebook like the Acer shouldn't be on the list because they did focus on money and to keep it at their dollar level, things that are on the W2 just can't be on the 8100........ so the 8100 is more of a higher end Toyota in that case and competing against the W2 which is certainly more like an Audi if I could compare them the way they should be compared.

I read that about the keyboard too... and it almost makes it sound to normal people like it has a bad keyboard - which is certainly doesn't, and all those with it would say the same thing -....... but tilting it.... I don't know.... you've got such a thin system (especially for a 17").... why tilt it? If the system was more like 2"+, I'd understand it..... but no matter where they rank anything, all magazine editors are just crazy (I've determined that after 3 years of serious adveritising in all of these mags) ...... I guess we just have to take what we can get.... it's ranked #2 -- just never mention who got #1 or it'll turn into a huge argument.

 

And why isnt the z70va on that list? It is pretty much better than the acer 8100 in all respects and can actually be cheaper depending on the configuration.

 

.... don't ask those kind of intelligent questions... you know there's no answer to that. Basically the z70va isn't a product of Asus and it wouldn't have gotten sent in...... I do know that I was asked for one by an acquaintance at PC World but at the time there was the whole issue with "red ghosting" and even though we know now we only had once case of it - we certainly weren't going to send a system that they might find a flaw in for a review like that.