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    W3J Optical Battery shutdown is back

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Deus, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. Deus

    Deus Notebook Consultant

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    I earlier thought that upgrading to the latest version of Power4Gear solved my shutdown problem. I found that this is not true. When I have both batteries in my computer will shutoff when the optical battery runs to 0%. I hav the latest version of Power4Gear and the problem still exists!!!
     
  2. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    What happens if you remove p4g? Are you running any other battery monitors or utils? i remember this problem existed on a z71v due to some software monitoring util
     
  3. TeFLoNMan

    TeFLoNMan Notebook Geek

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    I have the EXACT same problem and no one seemed to have the correct solution for it then either. I have a W3J. Again, I site that this laptop has SERIOUS power management issues.
     
  4. Mikeoo17

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    Well there goes the benefit of a modular bay! There has to be a fix for that. Is this on all the w3j's or is this just an isolated incident?
     
  5. KansaKilla

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    I don't have an optical bay battery, but I do have the shutdown/STR/STD problems. Bios upgrade didn't fix it. I'm still working on possibilities, as others here have suggested (changes in P4G, etc.). I really want to love this notebook, but with the power management issues (software, hardware, whatever) I'm only fond of it at the moment.
     
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    I have some serious problems with P4G also- it hasn't ever totally worked perfectly. I think it conflicts too much with the windows power management on the core duos. I wish they would update P4G for new laptops and if anybody knows if there is something else that works then let us know! (RMClock and NHC don't work that well either).

    I would say take off power4gear and see what happens.
    Dan
     
  7. bloodriot

    bloodriot Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have the same issues, what Ive been doing is popping out the bay battery before it goes dry and putting the tray of dvd in. that seems to switch over to the main battery. Seriously messed up power management issues.

    Did w3v or the z63 s have this problem??

    Still a great laptop, but Im really hoping asus comes through and releases a solution. Just look at the number of purchases through the owners lounge!!
     
  8. Mikeoo17

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    Does the w3j give you notice when it's critically low? What if you're in a game or something else?
     
  9. Deus

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    I was not getting a notice and I had one set. Have not had it run out when I was in a game yet. I have a feeling the result will be the same
     
  10. NZwaverider

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    Well I installed a Seagate 5400.3 160gb drive last weekend, Installed using the Asus recovery CDs one single partition and NTFS.

    what ever in the setup has fixed my problems it now resumes from standby (space key) and resumes from hibernation (one quick push on the power button) with no problems at all and that is with the stock P4G settings, I also have the optical bat battery, this has never caused me a problem, it normally runs to zero then starts runing the main battery down, never had the problem you identify.

    I reinstalled using the Asus recovery CDs over the factory HDD in one single Fat32 partition (so I can use it as a single external drive and have it running if I have to rma my unit) and guess what.......... it does not resume from hibernation!!
    I want to leave it FAT, but are you guys running FAT32 or NTFS?

    It is either the new drive or running in NTFS that fixed it for me.

    Also when I was running the Fujitsu drive I disabled the HDD time out to never in the P4G settings on all profiles running on battery, that fixed resuming from hibernation, have you tried that?

    Hope it helps.
     
  11. nick-m

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    That is bizzare! But all people that are having problems with optical battery switching can't have faulty drives, can they, so I assume it's a clear format that does it...but as long as it is NTFS?

    Hmm. I pretty much need the dual batteries and this is a big thing for me, glad you got it sorted out, though.
     
  12. bloodriot

    bloodriot Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know I may be going out on a limb here. Being on the technology forefront sometimes means encountering some bizarre problems along the way. But I like to troubleshoot things in somewhat of a logical manner/step by step. If that doesnt work, then go for the hail mary.

    Im glad reformatting to a different hdd format/installing vista/new bios/new hdd have worked for some people and ultimately I may give most of these ideas a go when i have the time.

    Which begs 2 questions. 1) Does Asus have any idea whats going on? (as in problems even exist?) 2)Isnt it kind of wierd that partition types/os/hdd models would fix our power management issues? Bios updates sure, but the other stuff?? Its almost like voodoo.

    Ive updated the bios now, same power management issues and battery wierdness.
    Downloading vista beta now and saving the install for a rainy day. Im curious about it anyways.
     
  13. muji

    muji Notebook Guru

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    this deserves a bump since i've been looking into a optical battery purchase. but i think it's also weird if new harddrive or ntfs fixes the problem. I'm sure most people probably convert their partition to NTFS anyways, so most likely they have the problem even with NTFS. Maybe it's the harddrive, but that's just too strange.
     
  14. Geared2play.com

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    I doubt its ntfs that fizes it. It all seems to point to the dual partitions that cause the problems including stanby and possibly the battery thing
     
  15. Deus

    Deus Notebook Consultant

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    NZwaverider? Sounds like your issue is different. This is about optical battery issues. Sounds like yours is the hibernation isssue. These are not necessarily linked.

    I will try using a single partition tonight. Lets see if that fixes the optical battery issue. I am not converted to NTFS yet by the way
     
  16. NZwaverider

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    Yeah sory about going off topic, but I though people might want to know what solved other issues, since I installed my new Seagate drive DVDs run smoothly and it resumes from hibernation and standby, no problem at all.

    and my optical bay battery runs down fine (under FAT32), but it has always been fine, has you battery always behaved like that?

    Would be interesting to se if reinstalling windows works, why dont you want to use NTFS? just wondering :D
     
  17. Geared2play.com

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    Again i must point out that all these problems seem to stem from the multiple partitions. It may be a good idea to format and resintall from the recovery disk using a single partition only
     
  18. Deus

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    Ok, I use Partition Magic to delete the second partition and then extend the first so I now have one. I did this yesterday and have not seen the issue yet. I have rung the battery down 4 times so far. So far looks good!
     
  19. Deus

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    I have tried everything from updating P4Gear to reformatting to 1 partition. Still no go :(

    Am I the only one still having this issue?
     
  20. jterp7

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    <--wishes asus just came out with a single higher capacity 10cell? that would extend battery life to around 5-6 hours..to eliminate all this battery shutoff problems =)
     
  21. NZwaverider

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    Have you changed the formatting to NTFS? thats what I use.
     
  22. Deus

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    Yes, I converted to NTFS
     
  23. Mikeoo17

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    Apparently this guy found the problem... From his picture, I'm not surprised he didnt update this thread.
     
  24. KansaKilla

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    Err, ya know that's not really his picture, right?