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    W3J: Out of the box changes

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by rookie06, May 22, 2006.

  1. rookie06

    rookie06 Notebook Geek

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    I thought I'd start a thread where all you more experienced ASUS notebook users can post recommendations on what to do to the W3J right out of the box. As much detail would be appreciated (e.g., if you say OC the GPU, please include a description of the utility you used, where to get it, how to OC with it, etc). Driver downloads, hardware changes, accessories, reinstalls, whatever. Some of this info is scattered all over the forum, but I figured it'd be good to have one place for it.

    In the same vein, if anyone notices a problem with their W3J, that can go here, too (esp. if you know how to fix it!).
     
  2. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    My recommendations :
    1.change HDD (if you have 4200 rpm)
    2.OC (if you want increase framerate in games or just to get high score in benches)
    What we need :
    - ATI TOOL http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
    - Omega Modded Drivers - http://www.omegadrivers.net/
    - benchmarks like 3dm05&06 (to check the results) - www.futuremark.com
    - 1-2 hours
    First, uninstall the stock drivers -> reboot ->install new catalyst -> reboot -> install ATI Tool and benchmarks.
    In Ati tool set 460/460 (stock are 450/450) ->run benchmark, if it passed then you can go to higher settings. 470/470 and again benchmarks.And so on. If 3dmark will froze your system, decrease the value by 5 for core/mem. From my experience I can tell that W3 X1600 should reach 520/520 (I'm a little afraid to go higher ;) ) This settings of course without artifacts.

    3. buy laptop cosmetics - W3 is gettin dirt faster than you think
    4. wear with proud :D
     
  3. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    Good recommendations! I would do the exact same thing. Perhaps reformat it If it came with junk on it, and install my own Windows Xp Pro. By the way mastha212 what score have you managed to pull on 3Dmark05? That is with the 520/520mhz OC. :)
     
  4. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    My score was on 510/510 and it was 4722.
     
  5. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    Thats very good. Almost as good as my desktops score... 4987 on my Geforce 6800 O'ed. Have you not tried 520/520? And do you have a T2300 or T2400 (1.66 or 1.83)
     
  6. rookie06

    rookie06 Notebook Geek

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    Yes, thanks Mastha. I'm sure plenty of us perked up our ears (or eyes, I guess, technically) when you reported that earlier. Plenty of people will be interested in OCing their x1600s.

    I know others were also interested in underclocking and/or undervolting the CPU. Anyone want to comment on that one like Mastha did for OCing the GPU?
     
  7. TheUndertow

    TheUndertow Notebook Deity

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    Do you think reformatting from FAT32 is worth it? What are the real benefits?
     
  8. kierkegaard

    kierkegaard Notebook Evangelist

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    ^ Thats what I want to know. In my experience (if I remember right) you can't transfer huge files using FAT 32 (four gigs I think) so maybe that is one reason.
     
  9. manlyputter

    manlyputter Notebook Geek

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    Formatting to NTFS is definately an improvement, ntfs offers some features such as easier handling of larger file sizes. I also believe its more secure (dont quote me on that). Actually here's a quick link from google -->

    http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm

    ntfs >> fat32
     
  10. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    @ jasonck08 : I have T2400, once I tried 520/520 (well it was 519,519) and 06 passed, but I don't want go to far so I will stay on 510/510 as max I can get. But if someone has cooling pad - please fell free to burn your GPU ;) Summer is going on our side of the globe so I guess I have to wait to winter ;) (last winter it was -25 - temperature like in paradise...for overclockers!!)
     
  11. bupp2

    bupp2 Notebook Guru

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    I have 1.035V @ 11x and 0.950V @ 6x and have a stabile system.
     
  12. rookie06

    rookie06 Notebook Geek

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    Bupp, I'm sure that'd be really cool if I knew what that meant. :) Could you post what that means along with how you did that? I'm sure there are people out there who are almost as clueless as me when it comes to undervolting CPUs.
     
  13. TheUndertow

    TheUndertow Notebook Deity

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    Maybe it's because of this thread (good idea BTW) or maybe it's because of the time line involved in this purchase, but...

    I'm starting to realize that I'm going to be super paranoid/careful...etc. when I first get the computer and open it up for the first time - boot it up - start to use it. It is not really like me, but I'm already stressing out over the best things to do.
     
  14. rookie06

    rookie06 Notebook Geek

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    Won't reformatting (whether to NTFS or not) wipe out the alleged Linux partition that holds the software for the no-boot CD playing feature?
     
  15. kierkegaard

    kierkegaard Notebook Evangelist

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    I kind of see where you're coming from but I more or less look at it like this. The w3 isn't just another laptop just like (to use another overplayed car analogy) a porsche isn't just another car. We have a high performance machine on our hands. Are we going to fill it with anything less than premium? Hell no! I'm gonna do everything I can to tap every bit of this things power.
     
  16. TheUndertow

    TheUndertow Notebook Deity

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    I don't disagree - I'm just a little...what's the word..."gun shy" I guess.

    After a week or two though I'm sure the newness will wear away and I'll be droppin' it like it's hot.
     
  17. Dangsy

    Dangsy Notebook Consultant

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    Heya guys, I seem to be having trouble with the ATITool, everytime i try to find my max core and max mem the screen goes dark and i can't really do much, is this normal?
     
  18. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Great article on how to undervolt the cpu/gpu here for beginners
    http://www.thegamebooks.com/undervolting-intel-pentium-m---how-to-keep-your-gaming-cool-t78.html

    See also the site for Notebook Hardware Control here
    http://www.pbus-167.com/chc.htm
     
  19. rukawa11

    rukawa11 Notebook Guru

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    is overclocking harmful to the laptop? and is constant overclocking and underclocking also bad? constant meaning every 3 days or so. and overclocking i dont meant to overdo it, but just at like 510/510. also whats a good overclock and undervolt combination. thx
     
  20. A-Lit

    A-Lit Notebook Consultant

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    In response to those of you asking about FAT32 --> NTFS and the recovery/instant on CD feature partition...

    I used the tool included with the W3J to convert the formatting to NTFS, and then used Paragon Partition Manager to successfully move the partitions around such that C: = 20 GB, D: = rest (don't remember exact *, I think it was ~70 but I'll check later). I'm just about ready for bed, but I'll check the CD feature tomorrow and let you all know that its OK, but from what I can tell from Paragon, the recovery "*" partition wasn't touched at all.
     
  21. Vcdechagn

    Vcdechagn Notebook Geek

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    You can convert FAT to NTFS within XP

    Also, deleting the extended FAT32 partition and then extending the main partition with a partitioning program should work. As always, make sure you have a backup.

    I wish I could decide which laptop I want :( :)
     
  22. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Notebook Evangelist

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    Reformatting is an action that is performed within the partition, so other partitions won't be affected.

    You can convert an existing FAT partition to NTFS using the CONVERT command from the command line without affecting the contents of the partition (search windows help for it), though you will need a utility like PartitionMagic to re-size partitions without destroying data.
     
  23. kierkegaard

    kierkegaard Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you have the full version? When I tried with the demo it said, "sorry cheap ass, you haven't paid for our software and we aren't going to help you" or something to that effect ;).
     
  24. Arvin

    Arvin Notebook Evangelist

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    as soon as i get it out of the box, im going to put in 2gb of 667 ram, and a hitachi travelstar 100gb 7200rpm, then half-life 2!
     
  25. Dangsy

    Dangsy Notebook Consultant

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    how long does it usually take to find the core mem and such with ATITOOL?
     
  26. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    If you go to the ati tool wiki, it says 1hr to find max gpu clock speed and an hour to find max memory speed.
     
  27. Dangsy

    Dangsy Notebook Consultant

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    oh wow, thanks for thr reply, didn't realize it took so long! thanks!
     
  28. xenous

    xenous Notebook Enthusiast

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    is there a recovery cd included for the special cd playing partition thing?
     
  29. kenney

    kenney Newbie

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    The first item I would recommend is using either Norton Ghost (2003 version, not the newer ones) or Acronis True Image, to make a complete image of the hard drive before you let it boot into windows for the first time. Keep this image off to the side in case you mess anything up. That and it only takes about 5 or so minutes to completly restore an entire drive image instead of the hours that are usually involved with those darn restore cd's.

    After you make it perfect you should make another image.

    Anyone started over and installed XP Pro from the start yet?
     
  30. El Penetrator

    El Penetrator Notebook Geek

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    Old thread, but this is what I did to my W3J two days after getting it:

    1. Reformated the HD into 2 NTFS partitions: 12GB (Windows + Programs), 80GB (Data + Games).

    2. Installed my copy of Windows XP SP2 (pre updated till August 2006) with my own key.

    3. Installed all the drivers and utilities from the Asus CD except for the VGA drivers.

    4. Downloaded and installed latest Omega drivers for the X1600.

    5. Configured my laptop to my liking and installed the usual programs (Office, Firefox, Winamp, Deamon tools, codecs, etc..)

    6. Made an image using Norton Ghost 9.0 that I stored on the 80GB partition (So that next time I want to restore my laptop it takes me 5 minutes instead of hours).

    Everything is running real smooth now without any hiccups. Pretty basic steps but I hope it will be of help to some people ;)
     
  31. TheUndertow

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    Was I dreaming when I heard there was a new BIOS out?

    Mastha - if you're still around and see this, how have things gone - realitivly without a hiccup?
     
  32. TheUndertow

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    lol I've got the same problem. dag-nabbit! I was hoping it'd at least let me use it once...but it just likes to tease you...
     
  34. mew1838

    mew1838 Team Teal

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    Just wondering, if you want to put in an extra stick of ram, do you have to take off the keyboard too?
     
  35. mike105

    mike105 Notebook Guru

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    My W3jp should be with me soon and I would like to know more about doing those images? Can someone point me to a good guide??
    Can I make image onto a dvd disc or does it have to be one of the partitions??
    Help is appreciated :) Thx!
     
  36. Zedr0n

    Zedr0n Notebook Consultant

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    Read the other thread about OCing x1600s. The find max options doesn't work on W3J, it is mentioned there several times.
     
  37. rhcpcrony

    rhcpcrony NBR President

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    thats fuuny