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    W3V Hard Drive/Palmrest heat.. the saga continues.

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by BBQmyNUTZ, May 10, 2005.

  1. BBQmyNUTZ

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    Ok, I've re-installed the stock Hitachi drive, formatted, and done a fresh install.

    The palmrest heat feels lower. Why this is, I don't know. Right now, the drive is at 51c, after rebooting the system and installing UT2004 off of a DVD. I honestly don't know what to make of it... it actually seems to be running cooler than the Seagate, which is virtually impossible.

    The only thing I can think of is that the lower capacity Hitachi drive might have a smaller platter, which would possibly explain why I'm not seeing as much heat on the palmrest. The touchpad is about the same temperature as when I had the Seagate installed. It is by far the hottest area.

    Any ideas, guys?

    Kai
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ

     
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    My stock HD is running at 46 C. After undervolting the CPU to 1.004V, the temp dropped from 64 to 54 C, and the fan speed has dropped from 1500 to 1200.
     
  4. BBQmyNUTZ

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    I tried undervolting with that Centrino Hardware Control program... it was reporting lower voltage, but the temps stay the same. =(

    What settings are you using?

    Kai
     
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    I contacted the number on the warranty card and spoke with an Asus representative. What he told me was that the hard drive temperatures both myself and others are getting are indeed abnormal, and that the palmrest should only be mildly warm (as most have reported here). He was nice enough to run a few tests on his reference machine, and wasn't able to duplicate the heating issues at all.

    I didn't want to get ISTNC involved again, since they've been so great to me in exchanging the Z71V for this model, but at this point I don't think I have any alternative. The heat issue seems to be fairly isolated, as only a couple have reported it, so I have to believe at this point that there is *something* not quite right in there.

    Undervolting hasn't reduced the system heat at all, not even a single degree. Just as I've been writing this, the hard drive temperature has gone up from 47 to 52 degrees, and I haven't been accessing the drive at all.

    I'm a sad bear. =(

    Kai
     
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    Hey BBQ,

    Seems like you and I are in the same boat... I noticed the temp differences between the stock drive and the Seagate. I wonder if undervolting is bad for the HDD in that it lowers the fan RPM's and doesn't allow the system to pull enough air through its front ventilation holes.

    I will be running some tests in trying to increase the fan RPM's....anyone out there know how to manually control the fan for this machine? Don't think you can but thought I'd ask.

    -- Gary

    -- Asus W3V Windows XP Pro SP2
    -- 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2 533MHz PC4200 Dual Channel Mode
    -- Seagate Momentus 100GB 5400RPM HDD
    -- Stowaway Bluetooth Travel Mouse
    -- Asus WL-HDD 2.5 Wireless Hard Drive Box w/ Hitachi 60GB 5400RPM HDD
    -- RightMark CPU Clock Utility (Min VID: 0.700V, Max VID: 1.036V)
    -- iGo Juice 70 w/ Dual Power Kit

    == Looking for a nice sleeve like the Booq Vyper 14" but better fit!
    ...and looking to upgrade to a Hitachi 120 GB 7200RPM SATA HDD
    ... and an external USB 2.0 HDD case for the Seagate Momentus.
     
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    I get the exact same temps regardless of whether I undervolt or not. It's done nothing to reduce the heat my machine creates, regardless of which drive I have installed.

    I'm thinkin' something's definitely buggered in there somewhere.

    Kai
     
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    Oh, and no air hits the hard drive anyways... there's only the one fan, and it's basically just sucking the hot air away from the CPU and Chipset.

    Kai
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Gary9r

     
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    Using SpeedFan 4.23, I am getting HDD:50C, Local Temp:48C, Remote Temp:48C, Temp1:55C

    These temps are reported after surfing the net for an hour and with the W3V sitting on a wooden desk. Rightmark is set at 'minimal' at 800MHz and .700V.

    -- Gary

    -- Asus W3V Windows XP Pro SP2
    -- 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2 533MHz PC4200 Dual Channel Mode
    -- Seagate Momentus 100GB 5400RPM HDD
    -- Stowaway Bluetooth Travel Mouse
    -- Asus WL-HDD 2.5 Wireless Hard Drive Box w/ Hitachi 60GB 5400RPM HDD
    -- RightMark CPU Clock Utility (Min VID: 0.700V, Max VID: 1.036V)
    -- iGo Juice 70 w/ Dual Power Kit

    == Looking for a nice sleeve like the Booq Vyper 14" but better fit!
    ...and looking to upgrade to a Hitachi 120 GB 7200RPM SATA HDD
    ... and an external USB 2.0 HDD case for the Seagate Momentus.
     
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    One person raised the issue of whether the decreased fan speed due to undervolting affects the hard drive temperature. Another mentioned that removing the dumby placeholders in the pmcia slot would decrease the hard drive temperature. Also, it has been mentioned that running the notebook off battery power helps as well.

    Right now I'm testing out all of these theories at once, and I was about to write that I found no noticeable difference but looking at the values I'm getting right now from Centrino Hardware Control the hard drive temp has dropped 2 degrees from 46 to 44. It took about 15 minutes for those 2 degrees. Unfortunately the problem with testing everything at once is you end up not knowing what had the positive effect, but I never claimed to be an efficient scientist. =P

    During regular usage my hard drive tends to hold steady at 45-46 degrees. The highest I've seen it go is 50 degrees when I was copying a dvd to my hard drive. It was plugged in at the time, undervolted and with the placeholders in. I figure that was about 30 minutes of fairly intense data transfer. I haven't put it through a torture test however.

    After hearing some people say their hard drives aren't going above 45, I'm wondering if this is somehow an inconsistency in the manufacture of the hard drive itself, they're using inaccurate software monitoring, or they're reading the wrong values. My hard drive never seems to go below 45 degrees, so I'd love to figure out what the hell is going on among us all.

    I have a feeling that perhaps BBQ maybe got a faulty unit again or is a little bit of a perfectionist about his hardware? I'd love to try and recreate those high temperatures you were getting BBQ. What software were you using to stress the hard drive? Anyways, you're starting to scare me about my own hard drive. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

    I really don't think anything is going to come of this unless the temperature values people are getting are put in one concise thread. Right now they're too spread out and mixed in with talk of other things. I don't know how much people really care tho. It seems to me like most people are fairly comfortable with how their W3V is functioning. So I guess we shall see.
     
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    Plugged into AC Power, undervolted, just web surfing, on a wooden table, powergear set to super performance...

    Speedfan:

    Local Temp: 48c <--- ???
    Remote Temp: 54c <--- CPU
    HD: 45c <--- duh
    Temp1: 61c <--- ???
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by corrid

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by corrid

     
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    Indeed, there is something to it...

    The second you disconnect that power cord, the GPU throttles down to 200/180 from the default clocks of 400/250. This more or less explains why it runs so much cooler... especially under the keyboard area. If you look at the PowerPlay settings, there are 3 options: AC/Full Battery/Low Battery. AC is set to optimum, which I assume means full clock speed. Full Battery is set to "Balanced", which drops it to 200/180. Low Battery I'm assuming drops it even further.

    Anyone have any experience with ATI's PowerPlay feature? Is it supposed to be dynamically clocking itself, like with Intel's SpeedStep? As far as I can tell, depending on which setting is enabled, the card locks itself to those clocks and doesn't change regardless of load.

    My hard drive is still running just as hot, so I'm pretty sure that I just received a defective unit somehow, but I will say that the overall temps are much lower, especially when undervolting. I took the liberty of opening up the CPU/Memory compartment, because I wanted to see what the rotten cooler was actually cooling. Of course, there's the CPU heat pipe, but I'm not sure what else it's attached to. It can only be one of two things, the GPU or the Chipset... my vote is for the chipset, because that would fall right in line with my opinion that Asus has their head completely up their ass in regards to cooling these machines. Can anyone confirm which of the two is under there?

    Kai

     
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    I think SpeedFan might not be acurate when it comes to HDD temperature.

    Just out of curiosity I ran it on my 2.5 years old Dell inspiron 8200, and it's showing HDD temperature 61c, while the other temperature is Temp 1 (I gues CPU temperature?) is just 31c. And the laptop itself is much hoter where the CPU is located than where the HDD is.

    If the temperature is correct, than my HDD had no problems working at this temperature or higher for 2.5 years so far. I'm currently in a rather cold room, and my HDD ain't doing much, but I regulary use it in much hoter enviorment with much more demanding HDD tasks.
     
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    I can't attest to the accuracy of speedfan in all instances. However, when I took those readings from speedfan, I also took them from Asus Probe and Centrino Hardware Control. Both of their readings (minus the hd temp for Probe) matched up with speedfan. I was planning on giving the readings from all of them but considered it would be rather duplicious since they're the same numbers.
     
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    John,

    If you don't do alot of gaming, I highly suggest turning the on a/c powerplay setting to "balanced". There was a pretty big drop in noticible temperature around the keyboard, and it did take more time for my hard drive to heat up with the GPU not putting out as much heat. Perhaps it may be a solution for your machine.

    Kai
     
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    i saw in notebookforums about the undervolting procedure, and i was wondering if the centrino hardware control can do the samething? because using centrino hardware control seems easier ( no long steps?)
     
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    After playing World of Warcraft for an extended period of time, it seems like the GPU is definitely having an impact on the hard drive. While playing, the hard drive heated up to around 51-52c. Now, well over an hour later, the hard drive is still 50+.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by onetake

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Underpantman

     
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    Its funny, in the last batch of ASUS notebooks, ie last years, ASUS were taken thru the trash because there fans came on too much...and the things were running too cold. I guess they decided that they would try and make the machines this year less noisy, and now people are complaining about heat, I guess no matter what they do, they will be trashed for it.
    Perhaps they should just make a utility that allows the end user to decide, thus then maybe everyone would be happy then.
    a
    :)

    ASUS M6Ne 15.4" WSXGA 1.7 PM ATI9700 80Gb HDD 1Gb RAM
     
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    Well, it really should be necessary to do that... and if you're gaming or doing any 3D rendering, there is quite performanc hit since you're halving the cards already underclocked core. It's a shame that something as elementary as adequate cooling hardware was overlooked when creating such a well designed machine. =(

    But, for normal use, it's something I think I can definitely live with. Once someone gets a fan control program working on this thing (or Asus does the right thing and enables it in bios), I think it could actually run fairly cool. The temps under normal use aren't that bad at all, but the problem seems to be if you push the machine a bit, the extra heat generated doesn't go away if you go back to normal usage due to the conservative fan settings.

    Kai

     
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    In a perfect world then I would agree with you 100%, but the world aint perfect, and sometime there are other valid reasons for the lack of a particular item. It could be that due to the small form factor that extra cooling just wasnt possible, without adding more weight and significant bulk, perhaps they thought that this was not an option, as it would have made the notebook unsellable, remember the reason that this notebook is so hot (as in wanted) is because its got so much packed into a v.small package...to do this somewhere along the lines compromises have to be made.
    If your a hard core 3D gamer or modeller then most notebooks that are highly compact and portable arent going to a) have sufficient cooling to be running maxed out all the time or b) have high enough specs to run that stuff well enough in the first place.
    Thus if you have a W3V and want to max it out 100% of the time you have to realise that this isnt what the notebook or any highly portable notebook for that matter is designed for (you should get a desktop or at the very least a DTR notebook). Therefore you should probably take precautionary measures such as buying a notebook cooling pad to help reduce overall heat, and or buy a back up hdd and image the disk freqently to aviod data loss. I always run my M6Ne in game mode while on a/c, which I guess is similar to balanced on the W3, as the notebook stays alot cooler, without significant loss in performance. Perhaps this is also another measure users can take to help.
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ

     
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    PS: Stop being so sensitive, guys... seriously. It's just a notebook, and whether or not someone doesn't like it or has problems with it doesn't affect you in the least. Hypertension is one of the leading causes of heart attacks and strokes throughout the world.

    Kai
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by flaxx

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by flaxx
    I think its quite silly to complain about having to use these measures, after all, a pentium 4 desktop processor would practically start a fire in your laptop. so how do we get that kind of performance into a tiny compact laptop? by using these kinds of measures. That's why intel devoloped speed step, SO USE IT! Furthermore, all pentium-m's are already low voltage cpu's.. but they're concervatively set. So if you want a cooler laptop, then take the time and undervolt it. Again, there's no performance loss (assuming you make sure you don't undervolt too much to the point of instability).

    Finally, i don't understand what all the bickering is about. BBQmyNUTZ, your laptop is functionally isn't it? So why are you complaining about heat so much? If it's too hot for your personal standards, then take the steps to cool it to your satisfaction (start with using speedstep!! then undervolt, and if you're still not happy, use a cooling pad or buy a fan from the hardware store and blow it on your laptop when you're using it).

    Asus developed a laptop that would run to spec and it's doing that and it will do it reliabily. If you don't "like" the heat, then do what u can to lower it, but don't go on and on and on about how it's a poor design when it works exactly as prescribed. IF, and i do mean IF your laptop fails, then you have grounds to complain, but right now you're just making stuff up.

    Hopefully i haven't offended anyone; i just find these posts are getting silly with people going on about how their laptop is GOING TO FAIL, and how it's TOO HOT, when NO ONE has reported any heat related failures. congradulations to all the new w3 owners on getting a new, nice laptop. sit back, use it, play with it, and stop worrying yourself and others about what you THINK is proper operating temperatures and good laptop design.
    <hr height='1' noshade id='quote'></font id='quote'></blockquote id='quote'>

    Bravo, I'm done trying to post reasonable responses to the "heat issue." I'll be glad to chime in in a couple of years and announce to the world that the W3V is still going strong and post HDD fitness tests to show just that.

    It's easy for people draw up images of a perfect laptop, even go into general descriptions of how the cooling should be, how this button should be here and there but who in here is actually an engineer who can evaluate the methods ASUS used in developing the W3V.

    I honestly don't care how many hours one spent on silentpc.com or overclockers.com. All of the methods used there are applicable to a single user and a single machine. If it meant quieting the machine by a couple decibles, sure I'd go out and purchase a $15 dollar panaflo with a regulator but that's not realistic for millions of machines.

    People complain about how companies use POS equipment and how they would gladly pay the price for better components. Well first of all you bought an ensemble; don't expect it to be perfectly catered to your taste. But as someone mentioned, there's a million dollar industry on cooling and silencing just for you so you can hack all you want in fixing the mistakes that millions of dollars of R&D never found.

    All I want is a reasonable and somewhat peaceful debate about the WARMTH issue but we can't even seem to manage that. Instead there's bickering and whining that just leads to callous words. If this issue is just as bad as some people make it out to be then I expect my HDD to be dead within the year. I do massive amounts of copying from the HDD and so I also tend to degragment several times a month. I also reinstall Windows XP at least once or twice a year. I have tons of naruto episodes on this W3V and watch them whenever I have time at school. I also do amateurish renderings on lightwave so with all the heat I am constantly generating as well as the sweltering humidity and heat that summer brings to Ohio, I'll be #1 on the list for warranty service. Talk to you all about my dead HDD in a few months. [:D]
     
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    The heat sensors used in computers are marginal at best, and chances are all programs are reading off the same sensor/diode. If they are even within 5 degrees C of the correct reading you are lucky. Just take this into account when looking at the readings.
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by lapboy

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ
    4. If you are happy with your purchase, aren't experiencing or don't care about these issues, or or just trying to take the piss like that Lapboy clown... then what are you doing in this thread? Ignore and move on if it doesn't concern you... because all your presence and your wonderful thoughts about the machine do is make people who ARE having problems even more concerned about them.

    Now, if you are rich and can afford to have a notebook that can just sit there and look sweet, but not be able to actually use its full power in a working capacity... then my hats off to you, as you are much better off than I am. I, on the other hand, expect a substantial purchase to work as advertised without having to make compromises on the back end, which is what I'm having to do here. I'll play the game for now, but I highly doubt that Asus will be the one to get MY hard earned money next time out.
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    lol nice little subtle shots and as much as i was ready to pick apart your post you're so right, i don't care and shouldn't care. at the very least, i shouldn't waste time figuring out the issues you have. i'm not contributing to your great cause so i'll quit and not even go on.

    good luck with your journey, and may the force be with you.
     
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    Well, thank goodness you didn't decide to pick apart my post... because I clearly know nothing about laptops or computer hardware in general. I would've been destroyed! /sarcasm

    I feel like I'm Elaine meeting the Bizzaro World Jerry, Kramer, & George for the first time in this place.

    Kai
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ

     
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    deleted 1 lapboy and 1 bbq post, as they were off topic and not required. Read the quotes should you think otherwise, or for some reason care.
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    my mobile meter currently reads 69 degrees for my cpu.. and 48 degrees for HDD

    and the bottom of the lapotp is. hot. like in hot
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ

     
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  40. BBQmyNUTZ

    BBQmyNUTZ Notebook Consultant

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable
    Now, in the week or so you've been posting about this, other customers of mine have called, imed and emailed telling me that in their experience they think the 100/5400 seagate is actually hotter running than the 60/7200 hitachi. I really don't get it... if it's running cooler, more power to you, but I know how frustrating it is to have something do this and not be able to explain it.

    By the way, I was just checking out the bottom of my W3 when putting another drive in it and I noticed there are little slots that are cut out infront of the hard drive cover... I don't know what they really do, but it's more of a passive cooling solution than Asus has ever done on any other notebook before.

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    I appreciate you testing out those drives and whatnot (I'm assuming they were all supported and worked properly). It is frustrating to be experiencing something like this, having the same experience shared by other user, then having a bunch of cartoon Asus hitmen swoop in to tell me I'm crazy and I don't know what I'm talking about. That's the only thing that bothers me around here... that some of the fanboy's around here are so incredibley gung-ho about their purchase that they refuse to even entertain the possibility that the machine may be suffering from a few defects that just haven't manifested themselves in their particular unit.

    I though, perhaps, that the extra memory I had installed could've also contributed to the heightened temps that I get, so just to make sure all my bases are covered, I uninstalled them and re-ran all my usual tests. There was no discernable difference between the 512 and the 1gig module in terms of heat from the port beneath the keyboard. As for the expansion port on the underside of the machine, there was of course some additional heat, but it is barely noticible.

    Kai
     
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  41. onetake

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    well this doesnt really have anything to do with the heat/palmrest

    does anyone with w3v notice their taskbar items not loading sometimes?

    like someetimes mhy power4gear doesnt load, and when im on battery theres no battery meter on my taskbar... and all the wireless/bluetooth icons dont load up. Its strange, sometime all the icons load, and den another boot of the laptop it doesnt load.. i flashed the new bios and on stock w3v
     
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    i just restarted my laptop, and i dont see any of the bluetooth/wireless icons on the taskbar, no power4gear icon.. does anyone know what the problem can be? and when i goto battery power no battery meter icon
     
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    XP hides unused icons on the taskbar.... that could be it right there.

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  44. onetake

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    no its not hidden, its more like it wont load in the beginning
     
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    I have noticed this on my M2N and it also used to occur occassionally on my old desktop, thus I think its an issue with XP more than ASUS. It tends to happen more often when I come out of a hybernation, as reboot usually solves the problem. Sometimes simply going into the program eg ati task manager and turning off then back on the display icon in task bar also fixes the issue.
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    ps now were offically off topic...lol

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  46. onetake

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    no.. theyr not in the task manager
     
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    even though it's not in the system tray, are the programs still running when you check the task manager?
     
  48. onetake

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    is there a way to fix this -.-
     
  49. BBQmyNUTZ

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    Hahahah... finally, a problem I don't have.

    No BSOD today.
     
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    i ended up restoring my w3v, and there were no problems.. i think maybe the problem could have been from the update bios or the uxtheme patcher not sure.