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    W7j Battery Options

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by dragonesse, Jun 13, 2006.

  1. dragonesse

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    I haven't found the answer to this anywhere on the forums, so hopefully I'm not repeating anything.

    Does the W7j have the option for the modular battery, like some of the other Asus laptops do?
    Is it possible to order the W7j with the 9 cell battery instead of the 6 cell? If the 6 cell offers ~2.5 hrs, then the 9 (or 6 + modular) should easily manage 3.5-4, right?

    For $1499, the price is certainly right to add on a second battery...
     
  2. SRD

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    The W7 will not have a modular bay at all no room for it. You cannot order it witha 9cell its coming with a six. Ensembles only come one way. You can order a 9 cell as well though later. the 6 cell will have a minimum of 3 hours life with max brightness i will bet. the 9 maybe 5 hours max around there. and 1499 is kinda low it may be as high as 1700. we have yet to see.
     
  3. dragonesse

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    Thanks for the info.

    You really think the 6 cell can get 3 hours? When I'm on battery I run things at the absolute minimum... ~3.5 is roughly what I need out of a battery.
     
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    you can get about 4 hours on a w5f with a 6 so i dont see 3 hours being a problem on the w7. the w3v gets almost 4 hours with an 8cell. i think underclocked with high lcd brightness you can get over 3 hours.
     
  5. Jason

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    The W7j will not be $1499. It will be over $1800 when it comes out. My reason. Well... it's out right now in Taiwan. And it costs around $200USD more than the W3j. The W7j has a 6 cell 4800 mAh battery just like the A8jm. Here in Taiwan the W7j is around $1550 USD. And in Taiwan Asus notebooks are usually cheaper by $300 at least. The W3j here is $1300 in the US - its down to $1700 from $1800 but its still $400 more! I have an add right here in front of me, and If you have anymore questions ask, and I might be able to find answers.
     
  6. linsook

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    thanks for the info.

    you think its worth it to buy it in asia or just order it from suppliers here? reason being, i'm flying to china at the beginning of august.
     
  7. Jason

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    Well... you will save $300 + you get a 2 year global warranty. The Asus notebooks in the US usually just come with a 1 year global. You also get a free case, flash drive, mouse etc. But, I don't think it will be cheaper in any other part of Asia. It has to be Taiwan that you buy from, after all Asus is a Taiwanese compay.
     
  8. reicaden

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    Anyone have these yet? the 9-cell battery's for the Asus W7J?

    or an ETA perhaps?

    or has anyone been able to confirm that it will be the same 9-cell used by the W3V?
     
  9. PROPortable

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    First of all, there isn't anyone who should "officially have them". They're the same, and I mean "identical" (obscure "my cousin vinny" quote)...... to the W5's batteries and therefore aren't going to be coming in seperately or sold under a different part number.... Which means they're a stocked part number that hasn't changed in 17 months.

    Two.... the W3 doesn't have a 9 cell battery and there isn't a thing about either of the W3's batteries that are even remotely close to the design of the batteries in the S5/M5/W5/W7...
     
  10. reicaden

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    Ahh, i might be thinking of the W3J (8 cell perhaps?) with the W3V batteries? (did research on too many laptops at once, and all the details are sorta jumbled up).

    It's good to hear though that its the same as the W5's and that they are available, since i will probably need to get that (so i can use the laptop in lectures and get about 4 hours im hoping...).

    Will a 9 cell achieve 4 hours on battery (with card reader, bluetooth, and wifi turned off?)? I'm not sure if anyone knows yet for certain =/.

    On an unrelated note... my cousin vinny, good movie?
     
  11. PROPortable

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    The W3's design incorporates a totally a battery which is identical on the W3n, W3v, W3z, and W3j..... The only difference on the newest W3j model is that due to the position of the graphics card, one of the hooks for the battery was moved and although they look the same and are the same power, the older ones won't work. The W3j batteries still haven't made it to the states, but should in the coming weeks.

    The 9 cell will get 4 hours for the hardestcore gamer who is overclocking everything and playing non-stop. I don't have numbers on the 9 cell in relation to the W7 yet, but 6 hours should be closer to doable with that since I can 7-8 watching a movie on my old S5.......

    You've got to remember that there are a few big power users on the notebook and besides the cpu which you can easily scale, the screen brightness is HUGE..... the difference between 50% and 100% brightness can mean the difference of 15% of life right there if not more..... and you're in a lecture environment where I typically use 15-20% brightness. Also, you're not going to be making use of the graphics card much if at all, really... which will help...... and wifi really doesn't use that much power... maybe 5-10 minutes over 3-4 hours...... but turning it off does help... bluetooth should be off if you're not using it and the card reader really isn't an issue either. You're not going to be using the camera.... I mean, setting it up in dvd or presentation mode should be more than enough for what you're doing and even with the 6 cell, you should get 3-3 1/2 hours - most likely..... I think those more likely to get 2 3/4 or 3 hours would be more the heavy gamer.

    My cousin vinny..... you're asking that like a question as if you've never seen it? If so, it's what....... 13-14 years old and coming from an Italian background, it's one of the funnest best movies of all time..... I made the joke about the quote because I only quoted a single word and how many times in how many movies or everyday life would the work "identical" be use... obviously a lot. I was just thinking of a scene in the movie as I was typing when the prosecuter turned to the jury and put his hands out and said "identical" in reference to a piece of evidence..... just have to know my state of mind at the time and know that scene in the movie for it to be remotely funny.
     
  12. reicaden

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    lol, i guess i'll need to pick up that movie. (i've actually heard alot about that movie. Alot of references to the movie. I have not seen it yet though >_< !!)

    I'll rent it one day :)

    About the battery, when you said this:

    "setting it up in dvd or presentation mode should be more than enough for what you're doing and even with the 6 cell, you should get 3-3 1/2 hours - most likely....."

    this means with a 9cell (about... 1/3rd more, i'd assume?), i should be looking at 4-4 1/2 hours, maybe a bit more, in presentation or DVD mode?

    That isnt too bad at all.

    Are there any other "modes" that use even less power?

    And is there anything else in the W7J thats a power hog, that i may want to turn off too when in the lecture hall?
    (how about the CDDrive? can i remove the power to that and save alot?)

    -Thanks again for all the information, i think i'm sold on this laptop ;)
     
  13. PROPortable

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    Well, you can honestly expect 1/3 more..... that's how the batteries are spread out...... and the 9 cell is 1/3 mor ethan the 6... so I'd expect 1/3 more life and indeed that's what you'll get. For instance, if you get 2 hours on the 6 cell, you'll get 3 on the 9......... but if you get 4 on the 6 cell, you'll get 6 on the 9..... etc.

    powergear is something i've used for 5-6 years now and it's always getting better... the newest versions have like 7 modes.... you super performance (while plugged in), high performance, game, dvd, presentation, email, battery savings. Now there are other things to tweak (but I'd leave them stock till you get used to how they all work), but you can't tweak the cpu settings, but you can tweak the lcd brightness and power saving features like standby times and things like that.

    If you're not using the optical drive you don't need to worry about it..... Basically, if you were giving a presentation, you don't need much power, but i'd use it for a while to try it out and judge for yourself what you need to do...... lower the backlight and use a lower powergear mode to lower the cpu..... email mode runs at like 800mhz which is fine for internet and email, but not for powerpoint stuff... presentation mode runs at like 1.1 or 1.2ghz and that's fine for that... but basically if you're not gaming or anything else...... keep the cpu off full blast (which is high performance mode while on battery) and lower the backlight to under 50% and you should get as good of life as possible.
     
  14. reicaden

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    Great information! i'm going to copy-paste all this and save it to my desktop, so when i get my laptop i can have a reference for the information. Thanks for all the help and answering all the questions i've presented! you've been a huge help :)

    Appreciate the time invested in the topic for me. ;)
     
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    anyone have a picture?

    I'm trying to purchase a W7J with upgrade to 1.5G of ram, 80GB 7200RPM hitachi/seagate HDD, and 9 cell if it doens't stick out too much. not additional 9 cell, but instead of the 6 cell standard. And hopefully at a reasonable price for these upgrades. Oh and also atleast one year reseller warranty (since changing the ram + HDD voids the asus one) I'm looking at milestonePC but they don't have the 9cell upgrade option. and all other sites seem to not let you mod it at all :-/
     
  18. SRD

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    your better off modding it yourself.
     
  19. MrBamboo

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    This is my first laptop, how difficult is it to mod it? Like I built my desktop, so is it pretty much the same?
     
  20. Mikeoo17

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    Wow... he wants price, warranty and special treatment. Resellers jump on this one!
     
  21. penguin17

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    But back to the question at hand, i would also like to see a pic of the 9-cell. If anyone could do that, it would be great
     
  22. SRD

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    upgrading the ram and hardrive are very easy. You are talking about a few screws. if you have issues you simply put the original parts back in and send to asus for repair. the 9 cell should stick out half an inch i would guess since the 6 doesnt stick out at all.