WIN98/XP Dual Boot ASUS Z71V--Driver Issue

I just received my Z71V without an OS installed per my request. My desire was to install a dual boot system with 98 and XP.

FYI: Created a bootcd using the DOS 6.22 bootcd executable from www.bootdisk.com. Running the .exe creates a bootable floppy and Nero turns the floppy into a bootcd (accompanied by any data files you would like to add--such as win98pro setup files, in my case.)

After fdisking, formatting, and installing WIN 98 (it is recommended to install Microsoft OS's in order of release, i.e. MS-DOS, WIN95, WIN98, ...), I came upon the driver issue. It appear that most of the system peripherals (audio, display, etc.) have not been released with WIN98 drivers.

I really don't want to give up my WIN98 world (and software). Going forward, I am happy to invest in new software for XP, but why repurchase what's working great on WIN98!

Am I alone?

 

That's true...but the features/simplicity/security/economy of some WIN 98 programs that I own can't be matched in XP.

I want a dual boot system so that I can take advantage of those features my WIN 98 software offers while moving forward with the best of XP.

 

Windows 98 is obsolete. Time to move on man. The minimum OS should be Windows 2000 nowadays.

Before, I refused to use Windows XP as I was using Windows 2000. I was forced to use it later on since I built a P4 computer with HT, which only XP supports fully. After a while, it grew on me.

What's the point of buying a high end laptop while running on Windows 98? >_>

[l]ikwid.[f]uzion

 

With XP you have the ability to run progams as if you were on win98, this maybe a good option, giving you all the benifits of XP without the crappyness of 98, which IMHO was a horrible os. Anyway if you right click on the program you wanna run >properties >compatablity >then run this program as 98 etc.

Hope this helps...anything to get away from 98...lol
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ASUS M6Ne 15.4" WSXGA 1.7 PM ATI9700 80Gb HDD 1Gb RAM

 

Dude,

Why would anyone want to use Win98 these days? But who am I to know...

As for dual boot, the problem is with certain OS, they desire to have control of the master boot sector as their primary. So with certain OS you can't dual boot properly off the same HD and that needed to be on two separated OS (I can't remember which one, I had 4 OS at the same time before and took me awhile to figure that out).

In any case, I highly recommend you use System Commander..

http://www.v-com.com/product/System_Commander_Home.html

It is absolutely THE best, most reliable, DUAL BOOT controller you've ever used. You could create as many boot OS as you want as it control the master boot sector for you and not letting the OS take charges of that. Which in turns could mess things up.



Laptop: Asus Z71V From www.proportable.com
* Intel® Pentium® M 750 - 1.86GHz
* 2GB DDR2-533 Corsair
* Hitachi Travelstar 60GB 7200 RPM w/ 8MB Buffer
FAQ Most asked about laptops: http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=61505

 

Thanks for the replys Underpantman and Smilepak!

As for boot management, I planned on using BTMagic which comes with my WIN98 version (6) of PartitionMagic.

Considering the cost of buying upgrades to my existing WIN98 software, loss of some programs (security sofware such as Swap File Overwrite), and loss of simplicity in other software, the burden is great.

I still have my old lappy and it will be a dedicated WIN98er, but the dual boot system seemed like the best alternative on my Z71V until the search for WIN98 driver for the graphics card, display, etc.)turned out to be fruitless.

So I am in the process of loading XP Pro on it now and lamenting the loss of portable functionality.

 

You're not a customer of ours, are you? I don't mean any offense at all........ but two people in particular got a system without an OS and then are complaining of blue screens....... I think one was using win ME (which is beyond me).. the other was win 98...... As long as you have the ram and the hard drive space......... AND the copy of XP Pro..... dude, it'll run win 98 programs better than win 98 could.. But looking at it even further... Stuff like Office XP doesn't even work well on XP...... only 2003 does.

So...

Yes, XP will run basically every win 98 program better than 98 did... but thats still not saying much. Know what I mean?

Thanks,
Justin
PROPortable
www.proportable.com
[email protected]

 

You're a lucky one.
My 40GB 5400 RPM drive is only 37.2 GB [ !]

ASUS M6800Ne, P-M 1.5 Dothan, 512MB Ram, Toshiba Combo drive, Samsung Spinpoint M 40G HDD with 8M cache, Mobility Radeon 9700

 

Justin,

Although I am one of your customers, I haven't made any complaints to you. I must be the third guy without an OS preinstalled on the Z71V. I can understand the oversight since the Z71V's must be flying out of your doors.

So far everything is great. Only shortcoming so far is my 40 gig 7200rpm HDD shows shows only 38 gig in size.

Steve

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by iceblue

 

Oh ok steve..... no wasn't you... I didn't say there were only a few people who didn't get an OS... just that there were a few people who didn't get one who were having all of these problems and it was becasue they were trying to use 98 and ME...... I like being able to offer no OS..... but man... people have to know what they're doing and when they don't they can't hold it against us.... know what I mean?

I didn't think anyone was trying to do a dual boot... personally I think that might have been too complicated for someone who WANTED to us ME as their main OS....

I just wanted to make sure!

I can't do anything about the hard drive..... I haven't see a drive in 4-5 years that were even within a GB of what the stated capacity is... Also, I'm pretty sure that if you format in NTSF you lose more space than if you format in Fat32 ---- (or is that the other way around) ...

Thanks,
Justin
PROPortable
www.proportable.com
[email protected]

 

Thanks for the info, Smilepak. I do run a lot of DOS programs,including PGP 2.6 and Ghost 5. On the 98 side, I have tons of 95/98 games...we will see what happens on XP.

AuroraS...My HDD actually has only 37.25 gigs. I rounded up out of generousity. Considering the size of the drive, the 2.5 gig loss kinda smarts. I didn't think I would need much more than 40 gig and I really wanted a 7200 rpm spinner...unfortnately, ProPortable was out of 60 gigers.

I stayed with Justin because of his customer service skills and board activity as well as Proportable's warranty.

 

On all hard drives, you will never see the actual full capacity of it in actual usage.

For example, on a 40GB HD, in NTFS environment via WinXP you might see 37.8GB, however if viewed under FAT (DOS) you might see 38.8GB, or if viewed under Linux file system you will see it as 36.8GB etc.

There isn't an OS that will give you the exact capacity usage of the HD. There are always a piece of it reserved off for some system usage. Also, keep in mind that 40GB is a rounded number. If broken down into bytes it is usually smaller.



Laptop: Asus Z71V From www.proportable.com
* Intel® Pentium® M 750 - 1.86GHz
* 2GB DDR2-533 Corsair
* Hitachi Travelstar 60GB 7200 RPM w/ 8MB Buffer
FAQ Most asked about laptops: http://notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=61505