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    What Asus has planned for 2007 and Screen quality

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by matt_h1, Jan 28, 2007.

  1. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    I was just wondering if any resellers in the know would know what Asus has planned for this year in the way of notebooks in terms of new models and features. The other question I had was whats the quality of the Asus screens like and have they started using the LED Backlighting yet.
     
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    They should be using LED as from Q2/Q3 2007 on the santa rosa platform. The LED displays are far brighter and "supposedly" use less battery than the casual LCD. They have also revived the docking station, starting with the V1 and the V2. On the high end market, they are going to release the lamborgini VX2, which will be their flagship laptop. VISTA slideshow will be one the main features and has already been implemented in the W5Fe series...As you see the next gen laptops are looking good.

    Side note: If ASUS manages to fix those pesky battery wear issues that has been plaguing some of their laptops, that would be purrfect :)
     
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    Battery wear issues?. My sony is LED backlit and its stunning, When I got mine you could pick it with ease in a crowd of other screens because it was easily twice as bright, Hence why I would really like to get it in my next lappy which will almost deffinatly be a ASUS.
     
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    Now don't get me started on Battery Wear. I could rant all day and flood the ASUS thread that only a ban would actually stop me :eek: :rolleyes: :D :p

    ASUS has been making SONYs for quite a while I wonder why they are introducing LED displays only now :confused:

    Why the sudden interest in ASUS? Planning to buy an ASUS eh?
     
  5. rhcpcrony

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    yeap sony FE has a bright and stunning screen, I sold mine. W3J should arrive soon.
     
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    Like what rhcpc has hinted at, while its a great screen the build quality leaves ALOT to be desired and I have alot of respect for ASUS as a brand. Could you point me in the right direction about battery wear? as the one thing I cannot fault the Sony on is its battery life, I was getting a good 4 hours out of it when I bought it and now I get about 3-3.5 which is good for a year old battery considering its on battery at least 4 days a week.
     
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    Does anyone know what Asus plans to do regarding Intel's Robson technology and hybrid hard drives? Will both be implemented, or will they just go the Robson-only route?
     
  8. matt_h1

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    Well both technologies have problems, The main one being that the Flash has a low number of read/write cycles so it will probally wear out before the motherboard or HD. I would say they will probally just go with Robson, As I understand it Asus would need to include it to recieve intel Centrino Pro branding as its part of the chipset. And Hybrid HD's are vapourware at the moment and when they do come out they will be exceedingly expensive.
     
  9. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    hybrid hds did come out in a small batch and were reviewed and tested

    seagate 100 gb hybrid hd was for sale on tiger direct for 170$
     
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    I got through the first 11 pages but couldnt make it to the 30th any chance you could sum it up for me?
     
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    Summary: A growing amount of owners are experiencing abnormal battery wear with their new lappies mostly the V6J and the V1J series. In about 2 months, battery wear jumped to 60% in my case which is not acceptable. ASUS has changed my battery 4 times and my new battery is showing same signs. They will no longer exchange batteries after the 1st year, nor will recognise the fault. They claim that this is normal, which is not. The battery wear issue is mostly due to bad ACPI coding of the bios, but yet hasn't still been resolved which makes me think that either its a conspiracy or the programmers at ASUS are just plain dumb. More and more people are experiencing the abnormal battery wear and ASUS still feigns ignorance. ASUS laptops are great but my future laptop won't be an ASUS unless they fix that battery wear bug :mad:
     
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    No way would I buy something with that level of battery wear O.O My sony has 3% battery wear after 12 months of very heavy battery use ( 3-6 hours on battery each weekday) and I haven't gone to any great lengths to preserve it other than being careful to avoid less than 10% charge. I plan on waiting for them to release a Santa Rosa based notebook and depending on my needs and finances I might even wait till Penryn what with the flashy new transistors and bigger cache.
     
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    From my understanding, Asus will be using LED backlights in 2008, while the U1 is the only LED backlight Asus model to date.

    Just like to add to your case Bender, over in the Tabletpcreview.com, R1F owners have wear % problems...

    Battery Wear Prone Laptops from what I've seen and read are:
    V6J series
    V1J/V1JP series
    R1F
    Z71v

    Just to add, LED backlight LCDs costs more, I believe the number was 20% more, so, implementing this technology so soon, would cause prices to go up, making them bordering too high of a cost to consumers. The goal it to wait till ths technology is more mainstreamed and then, go ahead and use it.
     
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    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    [RANT]
    All V6J owners, I repeat ALL V6J owners, in this forum have complained about abnormal battery wear and yet ASUS is still clueless and persists in saying it's the user's fault :mad: All is good while they exchange the batteries during the first year. But what happens afterwards when they wash their hands? Do we need to buy new batteries every 2 months? :mad: Do you think they are working on a fix? Hell no :eek: They already had your money! Should we file a lawsuit to get them working on a fix? Perhaps the ASUS executives should go back to business school and learn that happy customers will always be return customers :rolleyes:
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    See matt, i told you not to get me started on battery wear... :D
    Avoid the series outlined by MilestonePC and you would be fine...
     
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    May be the graphic card is too powerful, create more heat than normal thus wear the battery at the same time???
     
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    Interesting theory but unfortunately flawed...The R1J uses the Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset and my V6J uses the Go7400. The W3J has an x1600 which produces a lot more heat but isn't plagued by the battery wear bug =/


    What's going on with ASUS? They are going to lose customers over an issue which they could easily fix if they had the will...All they have to do is listen to their customers, not accuse them
     
  18. MysticGolem

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    I don't exactly wanna hijack this thread, but since this is just all speculations here anyways...minus well.

    FireWolf in my opinion there many theories in which battery wear occurs, everyone has their own opinion.

    I personally believe that, no matter what, your battery wear % per month should be 0.5%-1%, heat shouldn't be much of a factor since heat is inevitable, people live in HOT climates, people live in cold climates. So don't believe heat is an issue here.

    I do believe a battery can have about 5% battery wear when brand new.

    Bender believes it is ACPI, I have read about this stuff today, and it does seem to show a lot of information regarding Linux and ACPI problems.

    I'm curious Bender, what about Asus supplying Bad Batteries? Do you think it may be that, and not the ACPI? Or is it the ACPI and not the battery at all?

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
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    I agree. This is all speculations. But that's all we got until ASUS provides more insight about this nasty bug.

    MG, i have tried 4 different battery batches. A friend of mine had exchanged 5 batteries including motherboard twice. E.B.E has nearly everything changed. Yet all three of us still have the battery wear issue. It could be a very large batch of bad batteries but i would not bet on that as ASUS would have already been aware of the issue. Yet they remains clueless. The battery cells they are using are not sonys, but samsungs (i think). We have investigated the issue, troubleshooted each and every hardware piece and we have managed to narrow it down to the BIOS. Also i remember some bios programmer complaining about the huge list of bugs he found in ASUS' BIOSes. The most notable bug was bad ACPI implementation, which is our main culprit. We have presented these facts to the ASUS techies, only to be brushed away with skeptical comments like:
    Yet the growing amount of people with battery wear issue speaks for itself.

    Instead of being rude and accusing customers of not knowing how to handle a laptop, they should listen and learn instead...
     
  20. MysticGolem

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    Ok great, thanks that's exactly what I wanted to hear/know.

    I no doubt feel that I will easily consume roughly 1 battery per month on my Asus V1JP, I will be extremely surprised if for some reason things actually work out positive for my V1JP.

    I am being pessimistic, but I also laid back since I already have embraced with problem when I first saw signs of battery wear. LOL, I care about it, but I can also laugh about it, since this is just a nasty little bug.

    I have been reading about this issue for other laptop, Dell's, HP's, around the internet, but not so compressed, like our cases, their cases seem to be much more dispersed, and hard to find.

    I am curious as whether we should blame Asus for the ACPI, since according to this, well have a look.
    http://www.acpi.info/

    I gtg to the Gym, be back in 2 hours. :p

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
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    They are the one who manufactured the laptop. They are the one who cashed in...Sure they should take the blame. lol
     
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    FYI: The ATK_0100 driver I installed from Asus' website caused my W3V battery wear problems. It was fixed by installing the driver from the CD that came with my W3V and buying a new battery (unfortunately).

    See here.
     
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    Hmmm interesting. I was using ATK0101 V1042.2.15.63
    Unfortunately i'm out of the country atm. So i won't be able to get a new battery from ASUS and test that theory. Btw the new ATK for vista is V1042.2.15.100