What super g wireless card to use with V6J and Netgear super G router

Netgear only makes a pc card type II and a usb super g adapter. V6J has intenral a/b/g but not super g

v6j only has express card slot not pcmcia type II.

sucks what can one do. should i get a diff router. i like the netgear but wanted faster then just G.

the super g router was working with the v6js integrated a/b/g at 54mbps g speeds. but then sometime after I installed WG511T adapter software before i realized the super g network card woldn't fit in the v6j. then i can't connect to the router anymore.

It keeps saying Problem applying Profile!
I uninstalled the super adapter card software and it still has the same problem

its the Netgear WGT624 router. and i guess ever since installing software and then even uninstalling. it doesn't work

what can i do, i'm ready to go back to my 802.11b router.

 

I think super G means an Atheros wifi *MINI* pci card , if you can get one of those that will fit in with the bios then you should be set as well as have a free PCI slot .

 

Wait for 802.11n? That 'super g' stuff is usually a mixed bag anyway... Very expensive and difficult to get working...

As far as your software issues, have you tried removing the card in device manager and rebooting so Windows will re-detect it and reinstalling the Intel Pro/Set package?

 

Why do you need super G? are you doing tons of wireless file sharing? Even streaming shouldn't need those speeds. I would agree, either get a pre-n or wait on N if you really need the speed.

 

super g is not very expensive, not with all types of other faster and further range more expensive routes out there. super g is difficult to get working?

it works fine with all my b devices and with the v6js' integrated a/b/g wireless at g speeds of 54mpbs. just noticed the inet connection speed tests are a little slow on the laptop over g compared to the desktop wired speeds.

I did fix the "problem applying profile" error by just going into add/remove progs and hitting intel pro wireless and then hitting repair.

you say why do you need super g but then suggest faster and more expensive draft n which is like kind of in beta stages.

why would i do that. super g gives you 108mbps which to me is a good compromize considering some routers offer 240mbps and over 300mpbs

being at g 54mpbs is kind of dated.

wired ethernet speed is 240mbps so i thought that would be good and like the netgear rangemax 240 router but that one doesn't even have a small usb option just some big thing that plugs in usb and has the type II pc card that they all offer and the v6j and many other laptops dont have

the answer i got in another therad that makes sense is that express card islot is actually just newer and manufac are slow in making it but being it is better cheaper uses less power and other advantages etc. it will be more widely available soon.

in meantime i just have to decide whether to settle for 54mpbs regular g instead of 108mpbs super g and exchange my super g router for regular g and try to sel the type II card adapter i got for free that doens't fit in v6j

or

keep super g router and just try to exchange the card adapter for the usb adapter which should work but i'm not crazy about using up one of 4 usb slots and having it stick out even a little. if i can switch back and forth between the usb adatper super g and the integrated regular g then i will do it but if installing the software for the super g usb adapter disables the buitl in intel pro wireless then that will be a pain and not worth it even if i canjust hit repair in add remove everytime

meantime i'm goign to see if there is a super g express card that will work with the netgear super g router or maybe see if there is a router that offers an express card option because though i now know that there aren't a lot of express card adapters out there yet i'm disappointed that netgear doesn't offer one.

 

still a little taken aback though that noone here expalined about express card being new and not wide spread yet and instead all asked why i need super g as if its super fast and unneccesary when there are routers and adapters triple the speed of super g and id say its more in the middle or towards the low side.

 

yeah that will work but hard to find, was hoping for retail store like compusa but they only hve one and its just abg not super g nad its sold out online and not available in store

found this though

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item=200030491248

after going to the website and then emailing the guy who directed me to their ebayshop for that

says it will work with netgear super g but i dont know if it will with the v6j and seems like too much trouble

guess i'll either try the usb adapter then wait for my mini pci to come out in stores in the us or just exchange the super g router for a G and give up on speeds higher then 54mpbs

but what do you mean have a free pci slot?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-AirC.../ref=sr_1_14/002-0346126-1964852?ie=UTF8&s=pc

from amazon would be better then some german ebayshop plus i have a $25 amazon gift cert but its not in stock

thats the only one on amazon i think with super g capability
maybe just use the usb thing until these mini pci expres cards become more available and in local stores.

but where does it fit in? will it go in that express card slot on the left side of v6j?

if not what else goes in there?

 

here we go
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=GN...e0f39ac9a5cffc322e28a1594eb3d1dfe20aef89816af

good ole ewiz

GIGABYTE GN-WI01GT AirCruiser G 108Mbps Mini-PCI-E Adapter


will this fit in the express card slot on left side of V6J?

 

No, that won't fit in the express card slot, I believe that is an internal card. I am going to go back to my question. First, traditional wired is 100MBps, so you are above half of that speed. Also, you will not have a difference in speed for internet traffic if you are using wireless and getting the 54 MBps speed. Lets be honest, your internet connection isn't faster than 1.5 MBps, and if it is you 100% don't have anything faster than 10 MBps, so there is no reason to go buy new routers to increase your traffic speed, you are going to have the same bottle neck. Unless you need some serous wireless file transfer and the other end is either wired or has the same wireless, this is a waste of an investment.

 

someone in another thread did recommend the Atheros mini pci express wireless card though but maybe they didn't know the v6j can't make use of that. you sure it can't? so wha is the use of the express card slot in the v6j, will there be wireless cards for that slot soon which is what it sounded like by someones elses post about being patient for wireless express card slot adapters that were soon to come, which is at least how it was made to sound.

but according to what you're saying, it sounds like i should just exchange the super g router for a regular G router. hope i still can. and then i'll have to sell the pcmcia card adapter too.

i guess there is no benefit then of super g with the a/b/g card? not even a little more range? oh well. i'm all for saving like $20 or however much less the regular g is compared to super g.

when i do connect the laptop to the desktop for network file transfers though its going to be slow, could have doubled the speed to 108mbps for taht but if its not going to increase internet connection speed not totally worth it cus not doing a ton of file transfer and can always just connect laptop with ethernet cable when i need to do that.

tempted to try the super usb adapter but if the integrated a/b/g isn't going to work when i pull that out or dont feel like using it with it sticking out then that isn't worht it either.

 

Mini-PCI Express and ExpressCard are 2 related but different things. The history is as follows.

First there was Mini-PCI which is an internal connector for expansion cards equivalent to PCI for desktops. PC Card is a format allowing external expansion cards to be added to a labtop and it uses a PCI format connection. The original Centrino platforms used the internal Mini-PCI for their wireless cards.

When PCIe was introduced for desktops, Mini-PCIe was also introduced for labtops to replace Mini-PCI. This is what the current internal Centrino WiFi A/B/G card runs on. Equivalently, ExpressCard was developed and uses PCIe and is supposed to replace PC Card as an external expansion card format. The reason why ExpressCard hasn't taken off is the same as why PCIe hasn't taken off for desktop expansion cards (except graphics cards). There generally isn't a high demand since most labtops have enough USB/FireWire ports, include card readers, and have decent integrated audio.

Now if you were to buy that Gigabyte Super-G card you will have to open your computer and remove the built-in Intel WiFi A/B/G Mini-PCIe card and replace it with this new one. Whether it's worth it is up to you, but generally 802.11g averages about 18Mb/s while Super-G can get the average up to about 22-24Mb/s if I remember the old benchmarks correctly. I believe those multi-antennae Pre-N ones can actually get close to 54Mb/s, but I haven't bothered researching the new Draft-N ones.

I am actually in a similar situation as you since I have a WGT624 too, but I've pretty much given up on finding a complementing labtop for Super-G. Luckily when I bought it, it was actually cheaper than most regular G routers so I didn't spend extra on a feature I'm no longer likely to use.

 

ah, thankyou for that explanation and clarification of mini-pci express (Mini-PCIe) and ExpressCard and that they are related but different things.

so point is, there is no ExpressCard slot wireless adapters at all yet let alone super G. And that Gigabyte brand Atheros super g mini pici express adapter will fit and work in my laptop but i will have to remove the intel one.

now I did find that gigabyte atheros super g adapter for a great price of $26 compared to like $60 or more other places but it still doent' sound worth it just to go from 18mb/s to 22-24mb/s and thats just for file transfer, not increased inet connection speed or anything which from what i understand no router will improve.

the only reason why i though it might help was that my inet connection speed was much faster on wired (through router) cable modem speed was on desktop compared to wirelessly on the laptop but that is just due to the laptop not from using a B or G router.

now i think there is some range increase with Super G and it even has an option to check or uncheck that increased range. why you would uncheck i dont know but maybe it uses only a certain channel or freq. with the extended range option checked and that is where ppl have problems i dunno. you can also check or uncheck to use 108mbps so if your using that netgear super g router with a g adapter i guess you could turn off the 108mbps since you wont be able to get that super g speed and leave the increased range checked in the netgear router options.

so super g router would be worth keeping over G i guess and especially if you didnt' pay extra for it over the G version like you said which i think/guess i'm in the same boat more or less (maybe $10 more for super g but was still 10 less then linksys super g)

i just worry that there may be actually negative to using super G over G as some make it sound like that could be so. some just say that super g being 2.4ghz and only on chan 6 causes problems and connection drops out now and then though it comes right back on (mine has done this but how do i know regular G wouldn't do that too).

Then one guy was even saying that 802.11B had further range then G? i dunno, point is its obviously not a ton better then G but if you paid little to no extra then its fine, as long as its not actually worse in some way and that is what i have to figure out.

its just i've been so mixed up about it and now finding that the atheros mini PCIe super g adapter will work, its back in the running as an option, but it does mean spending extra and replacing the intel pro wireless adapter that was paid for as part of the laptop so mine as well make use of it unless i can sell. where as if i can get teh netgear usb super g adapter in exchange for the netgear pcmcia card adapter that i got free i'd rather do that, as long as i can swap between using that on super g and just using the intel pro a/b/g using the 54mbps G through the super g router on the fly

if installing the software for netgear super g usb adapter messes up the intel one i wont want to do that because there will be times i either need the extra usb slot or dont feel like using the little usb adapter sticking out so would want to just use the integrated G

maybe could just the super g usb adapte when doing file transfer for that extra little bit of speed. and hope that in the meantime using super g router with g adapter i'm at least getting some benefit like a little more range? i'd hate to be using super g router only to realize its no benefit (especially with built in g adapter) and actually some detriment comared to just G.


so you've given up on finding a complimenting laptop with super g? you mean built in? i dont think any come with that yet except some small toshiba i saw online. so yours laptop only has express card too? or do you not have a laptop yet as you were still looking for one with super g. so you use router just for other stuff right now?

if you do have laptop wouldn't you at least have the mini pci express like i do. is that hard to change? i know some laptops have both the pcmcia (pc tpe II) card slot and the express card slot so you have use now and future (if they ever make wireless express card adapters) but many seem to just have express card slot like mine.

might try the usb for now and as far as changing the mini PCIe from the intel a/b/g that came with it to something else i might as well wait for N (not pre or draft n) to change that.