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    Whoh! Z71v 6600go @ 350/701MHz?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by flaxx, Aug 1, 2005.

  1. flaxx

    flaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi,

    I just clicked the "detect optimal frequency" in the nVidia clock frequency settings and it came up with 350MHz for the core and 701MHz for the memory (up from the default 250MHz core and 500MHz memory). That would give me almost 3100 marks on 3DMark05!! Is this safe or could I suffer from overheating? Has anyone else run their GPU at this speed?
     
  2. smilepak

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    DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT USE THIS SETTING! You will fried your board so bad you wish you hadn't done it...

    The "detect" optimal frequency does is exactly what it was design to do. See how far can the core and memory go.

    What it does not take into account is the heat output by it. The minute you run it for a period you will fry your GPU because the heatsink and allowed heat dispatch isn't enough to hold it.

    If you stick in like a water cooler on it, you will be able to run it beatifully heheeh

    But on a side not, there actual was someone running his memory @ 700mhz stable...

    He was the lucky one of the group..
     
  3. antic

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    Off topic sorry, but just wondering if your Z71's screen is glossy or matte? I'm trying to work out which models have which screens... is yours easy on the eyes for long hours of work?

    Cheers!
     
  4. flaxx

    flaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    I love my screen! In fact, it was one of the motivators for getting this laptop. If the resolution is too high for you though, then you can also increase the DPI. But I'm happy with it.

    Oh and smilepak, I did just play GTA - San Andreas for about an hour at 300MHz/600MHz. The fan kicked into high speed, but it worked great. Do you think this is too extreme an overclock for this system? Thanks.
     
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    Thanks for the info. No "sparklies" on your screen then?

    Hey I'd advise getting yourself one of those laptop cooler mats with a fan.... just in case... :)
     
  6. flaxx

    flaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, i have a 120mm fan sitting around and an adapter that supplies 12v to run the fun. So i'm going to make my own custom pad for this laptop which will feature a big 120mm fan (which will keep my entire laptop cool). I'll post pictures when i get around to doing it.
     
  7. smilepak

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    As long as your have proper cooling.

    I believe the default clock speed of this before Asus underclock it is CORE: 300 and MEMORY: 600

    nvidia released 3 types of GO 6600 CORE and memory associated to it. Asus used the lowest one of the 3 I think.
     
  8. flaxx

    flaxx Notebook Evangelist

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    Well it seems to be working great. I've been playing ut2004 with my bro and gta - san andreas at high graphics all morning. It's amazing how much faster it is... i guess it is a 20% overclock on both the memory and GPU, but it seems like it's 50% faster!

    Anyway, i was wondering if you were able to UNDERclock your GPU and memory. I've been trying to run my GPU at 25MHz and Memory at 100MHz (the slowest possible) for 2D operation, but it keeps saying "The test failed to run at the selected frequencies. Please lower your settings and try again." I notice at the lowest setting, when it tests, there is some "snow" initially but at 25/110MHz, it's perfectly fine during the test. The problem is, after the first time it does this (and i think until restart) it will say that it can't even do 100/400 (the default 2D), so i just press cancel. Any ideas? Also, do you know of any way to undervolt the GPU and GPU-memory?
     
  9. smilepak

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    Man you are on wierd dude. Most people in this world want faster. You of all people want slower hehe..
     
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    for 2D operation, yeah! For 3D operation no! I'm going to be changing my heatsink for my GPU and memory (so the heatsink covers the memory chips but also the heatsink will have fins, so the fan keeps it cool -- then with the pad that i'm making with a 120mm fan, i may try the 350/700 clock speed). As for 2D operation, you really don't need that much power! 25/100 would easily perform all 2D operations seamlessly (probably including hardware overlay like DVD playback). So that's why i'm asking if you knew anything about it. Idealy, it would be like the speedstep technology of the CPU. My CPU runs at 800MHz @ 0.7v, but when it needs the performance, it kicks into 2GHZ @ 1.18v. I would like the same thing with my GPU and GPU-memory (i.e. low power consumption and very low clock speed with 2D operations but higher power consumption and very high clock rates during 3D operations).

    Is that so crazy?

    Edit: Well I now have 25/200 for 2D operation and 300/600 for 3D operation. I don't notice any change in 2D speed when going to 25/200 from 100/400. I wish there was a CPU-Z type application for the GPU and GPU-memory.
     
  11. smilepak

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    You are trying to design a new HSF for the 6600?
     
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    Ye um pretty sure those numbers are astronimical. if your running at higher then 300/600 completely stable while gaming on all games consider your self special. Some games will cause anomalies some will not. Point is the video card will fry and If its returned (to us for example) i will personally poke around and i do know what to look for and i will find it. Dont try returning it without a harddrive in it. If the video card is fried first place i will start looking on is your harddrive for overclocking utils. Guess what happens if I find any? Not a smart idea to overclock but as the notice reads...."overclock at your own risk"!!! If you do it to Smile's sugested clocks your fairly safe. By the way modifying the heatsink and video card is another risky idea. I personally will check for all that and if infact i do find a trace of arctic silver and the card is fried can you guess what happens?
     
  13. flaxx

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    The topic on the discussion of modding the heatsink, which btw is terrible on this machine, is outlined in the following link: http://z71forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=12

    As for overclocking. I'm not one of those crazed overclockers that damage equipment. It would be nice to see the temperature of the IC's. Infact, i'm more of the "make the machine run cooler and more efficient" (by lowering voltage) at stock frequency than "push it to as hot and fast as it can get it".

    It seems most people are into crazed overclocking and very few are into efficient clocking. Either way, I don't see myself clocking this at 350/700 -- and if I did, rest assured, I'd have cooling sufficient for 500/1000 :p -- I'm a proud owner of an M3np... never used the warranty, and don't plan to start using Asus warranty... besides, this z71v is a major upgrade from an m3np... I'm not about to start getting greedy.

    If anyone knows a way of getting the temperature and/or voltage of the GPU and memory, i'd love to hear about it.
     
  14. smilepak

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    Hypothetically speaking,

    If one does fry the video card, how much would it cost to have another one shipped?
     
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    150 large
    and i dont mean pesos
     
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    $150.00? sheesh, that is kewl!

    I was worried it will be like $400.00 ahahah...

    Heck, then I'll test out my baby all the way then. Once the new designed HSF for it is complete, I am pumping this baby up!

    Then again, I could say screw it and shell out like 700 bucks for a Z70V refresh if the stat look promising..hehehe
     
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    Ye you can always sell the z71v for a loss and just buy the z70va. if you do it right and the nb is in good condition you would loose 300$ or so meaybee?
     
  18. flaxx

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    is the x700 really that much faster than a 6600go? I'm sure with a better heatsink, you can increase the clockrate of the 6600 and beat the x700.
     
  19. smilepak

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    Paper wise, they are the same.

    But that would depends on how Asus plan to use it. If they undervoltage it like they did with 6600..blah..I am sticking with my Z71v hehehe

    And wait for Asus Dual Core...