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    Why ATI in G2?!?!?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by FlinsX, Mar 14, 2007.

  1. FlinsX

    FlinsX Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, i am a Fan of the G1,it is very cool!!
    but first i wandet to buy the G2,
    why has ASUS in his G2 an ATI Graphikcard??
    I think the G2 looks very very cool, but why ATI??
    When anyone the answere knows write back!!
     
  2. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    It was based on the A7 Series notebooks, and I think all of those were installed with ATI cards. It would be difficult for Asus to alter the chassis to acomodate any other cards, like a more powerful ATI or nVidia card. It would have also delayed the release time, and thats not something that Asus wanted at the time.
     
  3. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The X1700 is just, if not a little more powerful than the 7700.

    What I dont get it why they didnt put in a high end card in their like a x1900xt or 7950.
     
  4. Radium3D

    Radium3D Notebook Enthusiast

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    Because it's got some red on it. I have a question though... Why does the G1 come with a red colored eye mouse? ;)

    Personally I think that ASUS is trying to expand its sales by offering laptops for both Nvidia and ATI fans.
     
  5. Sylenxor

    Sylenxor Notebook Guru

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    Actually, the 7700 is clearly superior to the X1700.
     
  6. Brainonska511

    Brainonska511 Notebook Consultant

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    The X1700 is a die shrink of the X1600. Both of these cards are a little better than the 7600 Go (8 pipes). The 7700Go is a die-shrink and pixel pipes were added, pushing it to a total of 12 pipes. The 7700Go is the best midrange, mobile graphics card next to the 7900GS, but that is more of a higher-end card.
     
  7. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok then I stand corrected!

    Thanks :)
     
  8. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    The Mobility X1600 and X1700 are both built on a 90 nm process. The only meain difference is the power consumption, with the Mobility X1700 having a lower energy requirement. That was because ATI used strained silicon in the process, which greatly increased the speed at which electrons travelled at.
     
  9. lunateck

    lunateck Bananaed

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    Ur question should be, why Asus put a midrange gpu into the G2 rather than a X1900 or a 7950GTX?
     
  10. Notebook Solutions

    Notebook Solutions Company Representative NBR Reviewer

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    Zero is right, the X1700 is 90 nm but has a new technology named strain silicon which reduces heat.
     
  11. xchaosx

    xchaosx Newbie

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    that means the Go7700, though slightly more powerful would churn out more heat while the X1700 less powerful but also less heat? correct me if i'm wrong?
     
  12. loopty

    loopty Notebook Evangelist

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    The Go7700 isn't categorically faster than the x1700 Mobility in the G2. The G2 has the only (as far as I know) x1700 Mobility with 512MB of dedicated RAM and the performance is quite good, noticeably better than the version with 256MB of dedicated RAM.

    The following thread has scores for the Go7700 in the G1, x1700 Mobility w/ 512MB in the G2, and the x1700 w/ 256MB in the V1Jp.

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3462&review=Asus+G2P
     
  13. mikeymike

    mikeymike Notebook Evangelist

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    from what i was told, ATi has a superb TV interface and softwear for their All-In-Wonder cards.
    And the WMC XP has incorporated a major part of ATi's functionality in its WMC softwear. So in order for the TV functions and the built in PVR to mesh nicely it only seemed logical to pair up the WMC with ATi cards.

    again, thats what i was told

    hopefully in a day or two i will have my own brand new G2 :)
     
  14. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

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    I really don't think it's 512MB of RAM that makes the MR X1700 in the
    G1 faster than the V1Jp. Mid-range GPUs like the MR X1700 and Go 7700 are not fast enough to use more than 256MB of RAM, and the only point of putting 512MB is as a marketing ploy. In fact, even a GPU as powerful as a desktop 7950GT can't really use 512MB of RAM either.

    The reason why the G2's MR X1700 is faster than the V1Jp is because it's clocked higher. I think the G2's is the highest clocking one ever. In any case, it's a moot point when comparing with 3DMark since 3DMark05 doesn't use more than 128MB of RAM and 3DMark06 is just starting to use 256MB, so neither would show any benefit from 512MB of RAM regardless of how fast the GPU is.
     
  15. Redline

    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    It makes more sense that the clocks are higher in the G2, the extra VRAM shouldn't make that much of a difference. The extra size makes it so that they can clock it higher without having the temps soar too high.
     
  16. loopty

    loopty Notebook Evangelist

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    What is the clock in the G2 any how? The firing squad review quoted 460MHz core/495MHz memory. If that's true and assuming memory size gives minimal gain then the 95Mhz memory clock gain would be the biggest contributor.
     
  17. Xonar

    Xonar Notebook Deity

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    Or it could be that the screen resolution on the G2 is WXGA, and the V1 is WSXGA?!? Showing lower scores on the V1 in 3DMark? Just an assumption.
     
  18. loopty

    loopty Notebook Evangelist

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    No the 3DMark stuff are all run at the same res.
     
  19. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    3Dmark06 runs at 1280x1024. If the display can't show that resolution it runs on the nearest one. On my screen (1440x900, like the G2) it runs at 1280x768. So if the G2 gets a higher score, that comes into play.
     
  20. loopty

    loopty Notebook Evangelist

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    I stand corrected. Thanks Fabarti.