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    X700 in 14 inch laptops

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Lewis, Jul 4, 2005.

  1. Lewis

    Lewis Newbie

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    I asked this in another post, but I figured I'd put it in a new thread. Acer is getting ready to release the Travel Mate 3210 14 inch laptop with an X700. How long do you think it will take Asus to match that in a W3V?
     
  2. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    No time soon..... I'd also love to see an Acer that has remotely the quality an Asus does...
     
  3. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    I d like to see acer offer the same support and quality that asus and their dealers offer. :asus:
     
  4. stimp1000

    stimp1000 Notebook Consultant

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    Acer has recently come out with some rather highly spec'ed notebooks for surprisingly low prices. Kind of makes you wonder how they do it (ie. what shortcuts are they taking?).

    In the end, you get what you pay for.
     
  5. Lewis

    Lewis Newbie

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    Obviously there are shortcuts, and a bug farting would blow the keys off an Acer keyboard. I'm just pointing out that it is now possible to fit an X700, even if it only has 64 MB of VRAM, into a 14 inch laptop.

    Asus clearly leads all laptops in build quality and support. Why couldn't they lead in innovation as well? Just some thoughts...not trying to burn down the house I'm sleeping in.
     
  6. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The heat issues and the stability may be some issues.

    I'm pretty sure ASUS is somewhat experimenting with the chasis of a smaller machine with a powerful GPU.
     
  7. stimp1000

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    I'm sure that heat/reliability/etc has something to do with it all. It seems that ASUS is a bit slower to bring things into the marketplace compared to Acer. Perhaps they're taking a page from IBM's book by being on the cutting edge as opposed to the 'bleeding edge' of technology.

    If you look at Acer's 15.4" 8100 series with the x700, a lot of people are complaining about heat issues. I can only guess what an x700 in a 14" notebook will be like. But Acer has historically brought out notebooks a bit too prematurely (and allowed it's customers to suffer). I'm more impatient than most people and I always want new products NOW, but let's just be glad ASUS is taking it's time.
     
  8. PROPortable

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    Acer has never had a good following. Back before they even made notebooks, their desktops BLEW..... I mean so bad that when you'd mention "asus" people would go.. "oh yeah, acer, I've heard of them, but i don't like them" ......

    Their notebooks are getting "fancier" but they still lack a LOT. Acer sent us some of their tablets a couple years ago as we had a huge call for tablets from connections we had in the medical field.... those tabets basically all broken down within a year and required replacement of many of the physical plastic parts on the system itself. With that, we found much better tablets that have made it through at least the last two years of real world use without any problems......

    Whether it's the plastic they use or what......... they physically don'y hold up well....... With that said, they don't use Asus motherboards, and that's the BIGGEST thing that Asus' systems have going for them. Even if people know know the quality they're going to get in their laptop, if they know Asus' name in motherboards, they'll know that even if they were built like junk, as long as they took care of it, it's going to last them a good long time...... luckily, they are built well too and that's something a lot of people find out after they buy them.

    But Acer has gone the way of dell..... making the highest speced system that can pull in the most money and sell it cheap. There are things you're not getting.... just because it has this cpu, this hard drive, this ram..... this video card... this screen.... it doesn't mean that you're getting everything you'd expect.
     
  9. bugmenot

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    Well, they did spin off most of their 'substantial assets' a couple of years ago. AOpen, Wistron, BenQ, the list goes on. They're more of an investment/holding company with a core brand name operating like HP, Dell or any other non-manufacturing brand now.

    Actually: Who makes most Acer notebooks these days? Quanta? Inventec? Compal? That they have dealings with Wistron is almost a given, but there must be others.

    To stay on topic: I wouldn't mind something more powerful than a X600 in a portable package, but I think we'll have to wait for next-gen. 90nm parts to see this without sacrificing too much in the ways of heat and power consuption.
     
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    Right...... there is a reason the stuff that's under "benq" is under benq and not acer (or so I'm told from their us product manager for their pocket pc phones)..... Acer doesn't have a favorable view to must US customers.

    Don't know who's making the majority of their computers nowadays, but that's not the biggest question at hand........ they did a lot of this to try to change their image and image wise I think they have changed, but that just sells computers, it doesn't make them better.

    I think that might take a while too... 5-6 months I'd say at the least.
     
  11. WoWer

    WoWer Notebook Guru

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    I was convinced that an x700 should be possible in a 14" laptop when I first began considering the W3V in April. Once I got my W3V though, I don't believe it anymore. The W3V is the hottest laptop I've ever owned and I can only imagine with an x700 would do to both heat and battery life in a small chassis.
     
  12. makken

    makken Notebook Consultant

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    hrmm, whats the performance difference between the X600 and the X700 anyways?
     
  13. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I've heard that the 6600 go in the z71v is 1.5 to 2 times better then the x600.

    And x700 and the 6600 is supposedly onpar, so we can assume the same
     
  14. makken

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    hrmm i wonder if the graphics on the W3v will be upgradable (aka dell) so i won't have to get a whole new computer when half life 3 comes out :p
     
  15. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nope.

    PCI-Express means its modular, you can take it out.

    Just that you need something that fits without overheating it, and fits the frame
     
  16. makken

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    that was what i was thinking...
    say ASUS upgrades the W3v in the near future to use the X700 card, can we order that part from ASUS and swap our X600 for it.

    I know a lot of dell i5100 owners swaped out their M7 and pluged in an M9 from the i5150 model with no problems (i was one of them)
     
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    pci-express is an interface, it doesnt necessarily mean its swappable.
     
  18. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm pretty sure ASUS won't, as the w3v is pretty warm as it is with the x600, we want a small, but powerful laptop, not a frying pan :D
     
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    Hmm cut some slits in the panels to make more vents, and Upgrade the fan LOL never say never just make it happen :noisyfan: :noisyfan: :eek:verheat: :decision: :budget:
     
  20. makken

    makken Notebook Consultant

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    yikes.. biggest combination of reliavent emotion icons ever.