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    Z35* 13inch wide? any sightings?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Whitney, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. Whitney

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    Been trying to find one of these to at least visualize, but to no avail; anyone have a picture or a description that you might post? I've been regularly searching for this and haven't discovered anything since Proport* did the rollout thing over a week? ago. Thanks.
     
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    .. someone finally made the connection.... The Z35f is NOT a W6a/f in a configurable form..... but it's **** close.... and the notebook will be more graphite than silver. Basically, the color of the current Z33ae.
     
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    I ll be reviewing it over the weekend actually. Got one from overseas for my self. It comes with a core solo though.
     
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    Did you get the white Z35a then or no?
     
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    "**** close" is a good estimate for now I guess, and that side by side with the sony S series is a good indicator of size.

    I just hope for more than 2 USBs and built-in BT (that's as good as an extra USB port). And it would be cool if the touchpad buttons have that light between them ... it is an eye catcher :D especially in a boring surrounding like a library.
     
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    It has 3 usb i believe. Bluetooth is built in. and no light between the touchpads thats only models with aluminum touchpads.
     
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    Says its a z35f on the box. Should get the review going tonight.
     
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    Looking forward to it! Remember to take lots of pics, Eddie :)
     
  10. coilz

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    How about that W7J that shows up on a pic from the artcile on the front page?. 13.3" with dedicated graphics.. looks neat.
     
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    Its a 915 chipset. Asus will/may bring them in black. Looks like i am reviewing and old chipset in a new body. Very sad. :(
     
  12. qwester

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    So it isn't even a solo, just a P-M?

    I think I am going to wait for this, even if it was delayed a bit. It seems to be exactly the balance of size and performance that I am looking for.
     
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    yep it has a 760 in it. I ll still review it but will post more pics and such. Asus states the chasis will remain identical. Too bad i was hoping to keep it for my self.
     
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    This question is for danny, justin or eddie. Have any you guys gotten a demo of the Z35F? and if you have could you take some pics and post them in this forum ? I would like to check this model out. I saw the pics you had eddie of the z35a old model, I just wanted to see it in all black and see if they put a nicer touch pad on it.
     
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    They haven't even brought it in yet as a demo....... Z62j and Z96j demos came in last week (and they're not even production demos - screens are both lower res than production).... and this means they'll be here before the Z35f....... probably in the next 2-3 weeks.... so my guess is that puts the Z35 off till the end of the month at the eariliest. Honestly though, take Ed's pictures of the Z35a and visualize it in the color of the Z33ae.... it's going to be a decent looking system, but I don't think it's as nice (looking) as the Z33ae...
     
  16. SRD

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    Im a big asus fan. But i have to say this time around they really are slow bringing the new models out. I mean most other companys really have a good headstart on them. by the time they get all their new models out everyone else is going to be delivering their models with the intel 64 bit chips.
     
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    Asus doesn't need a headstart... they never have... Yes, we're hurting for new models, but this is somewhat usual in all honesty..... if you look at last year, the Z71v came out and then it was going to be months and months before the Z70v came out, but it ended up coming out a month early. Last year they were somewhat quicker - although I'd point out they were still pretty slow in my opinion - but that was the fastest I've seen in more than five years and certainly in the last 3+ since centrino's been out and people really started to know they were around. May has always been a big month for them and I have a feeling we're going to be hit with a lot before the end of the month..... including a some models that are unexpected..... you have to realize they've got a lot on their plates this year and from what I hear, a lot of delays on the barebone side have to do with nationwide distrubtion stock of certain older models.... they're not going to buy the new stuff till the old stuff is close to gone. Those guys cater to many many small corner dealers and they buy a lot..... without their orders, it really makes it hard to drive down the cost of shipping and therefore unrealistic in todays world of almost no margins in this business.... Z63's were almost all sold out before they brought in the Z62f..... Z33ae's are pretty much at that stage this week..... and just for comparison, apparently there are still a lot of W3v's in distribution that Asus is trying to get rid........ call me crazy, but we're still customers of Asus' and they don't need to point something like that out to us, but they control the market releases and if one notebook is still going to sell just as well a few weeks later, but it means a lot less lost money in old stock..... they'll hold them.

    ... I've known Asus to hold new systems for at long as 5 weeks. In fact, last year we had our stock of W5a's and V6v's for two weeks before we could say we had them and actually ship them.... and Asus had them for 3 weeks before that. I'm not saying any of the W3j's are actually here...... but I know some have been made and there have been at least three shipments that they could have been put on....... They can do what they want and the only thing that will change that is market response...... I'd tell you not to buy a Z35f when it comes out and call Asus to tell them it was because of the wait..... but I know that's a little far fetched.... you could still buy one and call and tell them you didn't.... that's just a little white lie :)
     
  18. Goren

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    all the other barebones/whitebook brands haven't really released many models yet either. MSI, Compal, Quanta, Clevo, etc are "behind schedule" like Asus.
     
  19. c9tech

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    Welcome to the biggest problem of being ASUS N.A. [ASUS Taiwans's step child].
    However, sorry to be cliché... "Good things come to those who wait."
     
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    I am in no hurry for another notebook. I have to many as it is. But i am waiting to see the Z35 and w7 weries. While it may not be a deal breaker for the people who are familiar with asus. As you know justin asus needs to get their name out there more and get people to really want their systems. Thats why i think its important to be the first out with this stuff. I mean Asus is the people everyone one else goes to to make machines. They should be at the tip of technology since they help design everything and not just rebadge it.
     
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    You are right. i wasnt just talking about their whitebooks though. Asus really is one of the few companys that can compete with Apple and Sony on asthetics alone. They need to get their name out there more. Why dont they just pay Cnet off like their other advertisers?
     
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    Ouch!!! you mean cnet takes money for their reviews? Can they be connected to a computer magazine? can they advertise and write stuff that is not true? This is borderline illegal. Welcome to the internet where one can write anything they want short of their terrorist plans. :)
     
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    All too true... My favorite sushi joint ALWAYS has an obligatory hour to hour-and-a-half waiting period. There's people crowded around, eyeing the deliciousness and salivating madly. When you actually get to sit down and feast, it tastes that much better. The anticipation makes the payoff oh-so-sweet! There are inevitably going to be those people (philistines :p ) who absolutely HAVE to eat right away, and will abandon the promise of yummy fish in order to go grab a piece of butt off a dollar menu somewhere. Let 'em go.

    A smart notebook buyer is going to make a purchase when they have to. If they're anticipating the release of something super-fresh (for me, that's the W7), then they're probably hip to the reasons why it's worth the wait. Sure, I want a W7 in my hands right... now. But I'm not going to jump to something that'll make me unhappy unless I have no other choice. If Asus continues to put out quality product, then they'll have a solid market of informed, discriminating buyers. Which is always a pretty choice demographic. :D
     
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    YCD i saw that but thats not the z35f. thats the Z35a its the old model with pentium M not core duo.
     
  26. Swatkins

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    Eddie makes that distinction pretty clear in the review, and though I appreciate the effort he made to get a review up, I'm still going to wait until the actual black Core Duo unit gets a review before I make any purchasing decisions.
     
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    I meant pictures... it'll be mostly the same i suppose except color?

    That notebook in black = beautiful... definitely going to consider it. I'm going to purchase it when it comes out if it's within my budget and I'll let y'all know how it is.
     
  28. Sherman

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    I've been chomping at the bit for news on the z35f. However, I'm also afraid to hear that it will be delayed. I can only imagine how the w3j folks feel.

    I'm sure I'll look back on this period of anticipation with fondness . . . Nah!
     
  29. Swatkins

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    Hah! :D

    Yeah, it ain't all that sweet to play the waiting game, and I definitely sympathize with the folks going through the pre-order drama right now.

    I have a feeling the next thing we officially hear about the z35f is that it's release date has been pushed back further than was previously expected. But I'd LOVE to be proved wrong! :p

    No animosity here, if it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't even know that I absolutely had to have an Asus notebook! :rolleyes:
     
  30. Sherman

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    I read that there is a question about whether the z35f will actually be sold in North America. Any truth to that? As always -- much appreciated.
     
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    I've also heard that there's no guarantee that the z35f will hit NA. I imagine that there will almost certainly be some sort of Built-On Asus in the sub-14" range. I'm really pulling for the z35f, the 13.3" screen is just about perfect for me, and I don't necessarily need dedicated GPU in a notebook. Resellers probably aren't going to comment on this unless something has been definitely confirmed, so I think we're still pretty much in the dark here.
     
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    Is there annews on the Z35f - or the W6f - coming to the US or Europe? Its the perfect combination. Any thoughts on merits of sony sz, Z35f, or even new macbook?
     
  33. Sherman

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    I see the News sticky now lists the Z35f as "Coming Soon" as opposed to "Late May." I fear it's not good news.

    I'm still hoping it will say "W7J COMING TOMORROW" -- dare to dream.
     
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    ... wow, people actually pay attention to that thread when I change it, huh?

    Yeah, well Asus' official word is that they won't release it until all distributors sell out of what they have left in terms of Z33ae's....... we've been sold out of those for a month or so I think, but some of the disty houses still have them and can't get rid of them... THAT is all that's slowing it down because I think Asus actually recieved them weeks ago.
     
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    I can understand asus concerns about selling their leftover stock. But that really isnt the best reason to bring a product to the market late. I mean they should be keeping up. and they are in need of a barbone model that is small and uses the yonah platform.
     
  36. Sherman

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    Thanks, Justin

    Maybe I'll buy dozens of Z33ae's so I can get at the Z35f .... Hmm, how to explain that one to my wife?
     
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    Hmmm,

    Appreciate the update, though can't say I'm terribly pleased with the news.

    I'd have to agree with SRD, while establishing a distinct brand through Ensembles is obviously important, I feel as though there's a big demand for high quality barebone/whitebook notebooks.

    I'll still be waiting patiently! Asus will probably get my money eventually. :eek:
     
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    I don't think I need to mention this again, but some of you might not be grasping it...... but the whitebooks in no way get any advertising from Asus and their name doesn't appear on any part of them any more... they are in other words, very generic.....

    .... once a disty buys something, they can't send it back to asus and until Asus gets an order for a certain quantity, they won't even both bringing them in. Asus focuses on the ensembles to the public and for the whitebooks, their ONLY concern are 3-4 of the big 7-8 computer parts distributers...... in other words, it's not Asus' fault.. it's theirs for over-ordering in the first place?!

    ... I'm just trying to get people to understand... The distributors don't want them on the market because then no one will buy what they have left. I don't think it will be that long though as they've had massive deals running to help them get rid of them.
     
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    Gotcha. Though when I think about a notebook like the z35f, or a similar whitebook, I'll still think of it as an Asus, the same way I consider their motherboards to be the basis of a lot of really great DIY desktop projects.

    Not faulting Asus at all, I understand their position. I think they put out great products, and I'm eager to lay hands on the new gear, that's all. :)
     
  40. PROPortable

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    right.. YOU will... but that's not the intended perception for the average consumer.
     
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    The problem is even though asus wants them to be generic. The fact is its usual people that know what they are buying that get them and know they are asus. people who dont know what asus barebones are go get Hps and compaqs at best buy for a cheaper price. as generic as they want to be it doesnt matter cause i think the majority knows its an asus and thats why they buy it. why else would someone buy a no name generic brand they never heard of. we are all advanced users. most of us that buy asus. But asus doesnt even have a 13.3 in ensemble series here yet so they are losing both by waiting. and other brands are selling more.
     
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    Steve... you're actually very wrong.... the Asus fanatics are actually a very, very small group when it comes to buyers of the barebones.... we're talking 5-10%..... most of them are sold by corner stores to random people off the street and to business accounts......... the same people who 7-8 years ago would make you a desktop, now will make you a laptop....... same deal. You should really see the numbers on those barebones.. Asus has a real racket going on there.... they don't warranty them and never need to do anything but sell giant orders to distributors.... they don't care.

    I hear what you're saying, but people will buy a W5 or W3... if they're looking for an Asus 13.3".......... they're unlikely to jump ship to another brand just to get a 13.3"...... but if they do, they do...
     
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    I Just want a new cheap toy to play with come on is that to much to ask for :)
     
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    Justin:
    Has there been no word on the W7j in NA? I'm just curious if there is a similar timing issue relative to getting the W3j's out, or something like that. Thanks.
     
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    The W7J should maybe be here in july. I think.
     
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    Why do people buy asus?
    1. Probably 50% or more of all asus users in the states are asian who love asus. I am european but i am in the same boat
    2. Another 25% are just immigrants temporary student visas and such
    3. The rest are american born nerds and fans of quality notebooks and hate companies like dell with a passion.
    50% of the top browse the forums. A few % of the top are just uninformed people who buy asus becuase someone told them to. Asus does warranty barebones but sometimes its like pulling teeth. The only way they will warranty your barebone is if you say all the right things. For example
    "I bought it from g2p or proportable" X
    the above is wrong they will tell you to call us
    "I bough it from ebay or the vast majority of their listed where to buy site and they wont help me"
    The above is correct and will land you rma with asus.
    Why o why do they bundle the self service dealers with self support but no service to the no service what so ever? Becuase they are not too bright when it come to forward thinking. A fine example of why they are delayed with many dual cores is their stupid roadmaps that came out almost 5 months before release this year. Dont release your roadmap until current inventory is low. This will make more money for asus keep resellers buisy intead of taking 3 month long vacations and keep most people happy.
     
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    ... Ed, don't take offense to this or anything... but are on some sort of medication today or something? Let me justify that by saying I totally understand what you said....... and it makes no sense at the same time. I think that might be because you quoted me and I started to get what you were saying, but the rest didn't totally make sense based on the quote you were replying to.

    ....... I go through a least once a quarter and look at where things are going....... whether it be students, executives, housewives, etc...... and yes, there is a disproportionate amount of those from Asian backgrounds who buy Asus systems (there are obvious reasons for that), but there are many MANY Granny Smith's out there who are buying one because their nerdy grandson said that's what she should get..... and honestly the word of mouth is ridiculous. Last year we traced a sort of seven degrees of one customer all the way around the world..... between referring a family member and them flying to another country and referring someone else on a plane and then them getting a co-worker to buy one... and so on and so on...... So, I'd say when we started almost six years ago, it was hard to wonder if everyone ordering weren't all related, but there's just as much interest across all lines now that sales are good not only for us but every joe shmoe selling Asus systems at this point.... Just look at Asus' numbers.
     
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    Last i checked asus numbers were very low for last years models in the first quarter of this year. So low that even intel was affected by it. Where are you getting your numbers? Anyways i am not on mdeication but i may have a lack of an herbal substitute. I was elaborating on your comment that asus has no support. I though it could use some elaboration. Dont you think?
    Everything i said was me elaborating on what you started except the last line which was me flaming. Makes sense to me and most readers that been around the block.....
     
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    right right.... you're right about Q1 and Asus' low numbers affecting Intel... they actually affected Microsoft and I bet their hard drive makers and right down the line..... but I'm just saying that worldwide, over a years time, their numbers are very good. Like I tell you sometimes, if you look at your this type of business in a week to week or even month to month basis, you may want to slit your wrists. I look quarter to quarter and February and March always sucks, especially when there are new models coming out because no one wants the old ones without huge discounts.... But that's the problem... we sold out of Z33ae's and after we did no discount is going to get us to restock them.... and THAT is a big reason why the disty's got stuck with a lot of them and therefore why we're even talking about this in a thread about the timing of the Z35. :)
     
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    So no word on when the z35f will be released in the US, huh? Or even if it is confirmed to be coming to the US? oh well... Just have to wait longer...
     
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