another crap resolution 16" laptop from Asus N61Jv-X2

Just found this Asus N61Jv-X2 laptop at Amazon with ....

i5-430M, 4Gb ram, 500Gb 7200 rpm hdd, 16" 1366x768 lcd, usb 3.0, NVIDIA Optimus-Enabled: NVIDIA GeForce GT 325M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM + Intel GMA HD

at a price of $899 usd. Its seems a really nice deal for the hardware inside it.

But again Asus made another crappy laptop of such low resolution screen for a 16" laptop. Seems Asus makes laptops ONLY for GAMERS who ONLY buy laptops to GAME. In fact Asus has ONLY ONE laptop of full hd upto 16" screen size with a price of $1440 usd ! ! I think full HD is still a new concept for Asus

 

Did you really just call a notebook with a GT325M a "gaming" laptop? Hope you like your Solitaire.

 

I do not know anything about GAMES/GAMING. But guess, when people have a need for dedicated graphics of 1 GB, then I expect they will use it for games. Again, many of replies @ NBR says, 1366x768 is a best resolution for gaming. Hence I thought its a gaming laptop.

I hate GAMES in a laptop which is made for totally some other work. So I think its normal to expect more resolution screen with such high end other hardware, to use the laptop for work.

 

Well, you said it yourself. There's so much "high end other hardware", how do you expect Asus to keep the price low and give you all the high end parts? Isn't that a contradiction in itself?

 

Get used to it, lower end laptops are going to have that res.
This is more of a entertainment laptop,websurfing,DVD's, and maybe some very lite gaming.
If you want higher res your looking to spend more.
It's not bad but you can do much better for that price.
I guess it all depends on what you want to do with it.

 

@Bestbuy, Asus G series laptops KILLLLL that laptop.

 

Dear, Thats the point, they have already giving OTHER high end hardware under $900, but they could have given option to choose higher resolution by adding another $100 or so.

 

Yes, I'm ready to pay extra $100 above $899, but the screen should have full HD option

 

$100 for full HD? Not happening.

 

1366x768 is not a bad thing on a 15" laptop, you could do 720p.
Yeah it's not full HD but on a screen this small the difference would not be too big.
Unless you need a lot of real estate(watch Blu-Ray movies,photoshop,etc,etc) I don't think it's needed.More important to me would be the screen quality.
Good Luck

 

Definitely 1366x768 is a BAD BAD resolution for a 16" laptop. Yes, I want more real estate mainly for Visual Studio and other work related applications.

Just now I came from a local laptop store and compared the both resolution of 16" screens, coz I was tend to go for Asus N61Jv-X2, hence wanted to compare the screens to have an idea about the screen. I just like the Full HD, 1080p screen (Dell SXPS 1645), its so gorgeous than the only HD screen (HP dv6t). I love it. Really if its not a Full HD, it will be a DEAL BEAKER for me.

 

I hear you, that resolution is too small - that's why I got my Full HD G51JX and I'm loving it. I use it for programming, reading, gaming, everything - it definitely helps make things much more efficient having that extra on screen real-estate. If things are too small I can zoom in - but if you don't have the res then you can't zoom out.

I can hardly stand using my N10J with its 1024x600 screen in Windows 7 - so I stick with Windows XP and run it modded to 1024x768 and it's surprising the difference it makes, but it is definitely noticeable with 20+% more displayable content to work with at a time.

Yes many will say 1366x768 is fine - but put it and a higher res screen side by side and try to get some actual work done or enjoy the details in a game and you'll see the difference.

My laptops: 2003 ECS G732 15" 1400x1050 < 2006 ASUS Z96JS 15.4" 1680x1050 < 2010 ASUS G51JX 15.6" 1920x1080.

Yes the screens did get larger, but the resolutions also got better. I know I wouldn't want to take a step back.

Peter

P.S. Thanks for this by the way - it finally got me to add this, High Resolution, as a Desirable Feature/Idea for Laptops, Monitors, HDTVs, PDAs, etc... the extra displayable content can definitely help and you can see a huge difference comparing two similarly sized panels with such a difference.

A 1920x1080 Screen has a little more than 2x the # of pixels of a 1366x768 and therefore has the potential to display 2x the content. That is a very useful and desirable feature imho.

 

We just have that good visual acuity to make use very high resolution on that screen without straining our eyes too much.

 

OK.
That's fine if screen res is so important than look for another laptop model.
This is coming from a someone that owns a SAGER NP9262 with 1920x1200 screen res. I guess it's more important to others than me.
I would rather have a lower res high quality screen than a super high res screen that's not as good.
I know I'm in the minority but hey that's just me.

 

I don't understand the point of all these pointless rants about resolution. If you want to buy higher resolution screens, then shell out your money and buy some.

This is almost as ridiculous as me going down the street ranting about all these "dumb auto manufacturers that don't put V8 engines in all their cars" because for all I care, I love high powered cars! But then, I'm a small segment of the population, and the manufacturer has done their research: an economical model sells the most, and they get their profits. Hence, most of the models they sell are going to be, well, average cars made for average users.

Same thing with notebooks. Outside of this notebook forum I have not once heard ANYONE mention that their resolution is too low. In fact, many people (especially the ones that are a bit older) often try to lower their resolution or turn down the DPI because what they have hurts their eyes. A company like ASUS that has been in the market for dozens of years can surely do their research and find out how to maximize their sales. Unfortunately, in these statistics, 2 average users > 1 NBR member. And in reality, the ratio of technical users to non technical users is far greater than 2:1. The vast majority of people that buy computers don't program. They don't edit photos beyond maybe adding some funny borders or writing. They go on to look at Facebook, to listen to some music, to read some news, and maybe an occasional movie. Whether or not it's a "deal breaker" for you has almost zero impact on their company.

 

BRAVO!
Couln't have said it better myself bro.

 

I don't know. There's a few manufacturers that offer a jump from this resolution to full HD for $100 bucks.

 

Generally that's on laptops that are already at a high price to begin with, however; it's a hidden cost.

 

Things with laptop is not as easy as desktop. By saying "shell some money and buy some" for laptop display, you're saying as if there are options for plug and play laptop display. No they don't. Not all laptop screen for every model can have their desired resolution. Most of the time, they are not available. Even so, you need to void your warranty by replacing your display.

There needs to be a niche market for users like us. Remember when about a decade ago, gaming laptop has yet had a niche market ?(probably there was only 1 Alienware laptop?). Now they do. It's slow, but now they do because they did realize there is need to feed the people from this niche market.

Netbook also, IMO, is a niche market. They grow fast as mainstream market because their target is normal users who needs much more computing mobility than the machine performance itself.

 

Can someone tell me what is the point of this thread? Once in a while these types of threads appear and they lead nowhere.
Look, the best you can do is write a petition to ASUS, complaining about the resolution. You will not achieve much by posting your complaints here

 

There already is a niche market. Several models in the ASUS lineup offer HD screens. Dell and HP all have their HD screens in their professional lineups.

The thing is, back in the day of the ASUS business line of notebooks like the V1 with the old ATI X1700 etc, they did have 1680x1050 as screen resolutions. ASUS shut down that line now, so they only have consumer / gamer notebooks. I guess ASUS figured that lineup is no longer profitable. The executives looked at some numbers and these models with high res screen and loaded with features but no high end video card simply didn't generate enough revenue. So, for people looking to do some professional work (programming, etc) ASUS is the wrong brand.

In the end, a niche market is, well, a niche market, so there ARE only going to be a few models catering to this group. If you are in this niche market, then look for these models, but moaning about the fact that the general purpose / consumer models not offering HD screens is pointless. It's not just the OP of this thread, but lately, this is the trend I see. On every post related to new products, there's almost always this dissent about the resolution. It is, well, like my original post said, fairly pointless.

 

I don't think gaming notebook is the niche market I (or OP) am referring to. High end video card hold less (or maybe no, for some people) importance for us. But display resolution and mobility really the deal. I wouldn't call the new VAIO Z as niche due to its extreme price.

Nevertheless, I think I am (and most likely OP) not the only one saddened they no longer produce a laptop with high res screen, mid-hig end cards with good mobility.
G50 series have a good spec, but size and weight doesn't do it (for me).
N61JQ would be great if it's not about its resolution.
N82 would be far better if it's not (again) about its resolution.

Yes, pointless talk is pointless. But hey, we're in forum anyways, defending our POV until the end of the day.

 

At the end of the day if you can't find a model that ASUS makes that can satisfy your need for full HD move on to a company that does.
End of story!
Not every laptop made is for everyone.

 

Gaming isn't a niche market. It's pretty broad, in fact. And, I think most people wouldn't dispute the fact that if you are only talking about gaming, then on a 15-16" screen, 720p looks identical to 1080p.

This niche market I am talking about is the group of products that appeals to people satisfying the following:

1) wants a medium - performance grade video card
2) wants non flashy looks
3) wants to do some technical work (ie. programming, while web browsing isn't designed for WUXGA anyway.)

The thing is, most often the people are the following:
1) Gamer looking for notebook for LAN parties. The G73 fits the bill perfectly.

2) Professional software / graphics developer. These people probably will look at laptops like Lenovo or Dell's workstations that provide far more comprehensive service plans than ASUS (imagine having to put up with a week's worth of down time because your laptop croaked, and ASUS, in all its greatness, probably really can't get a repair done in less than a week). Most equipment would be bought by the company anyway, so trying to squeeze value out of every dollar might not be that key. A $2000 workstation can be easily justified.

3) Casual users that just need a computer for around the house. To save some space on the crowded family table, maybe sit on the couch and read some websites, listen to some music, an occasional 3D game. Ideally, the laptop is also a bargain.

I think that this N series is designed to appeal to group 3).

Of course, then there's the hybrid group. You, along with myself, probably fall into this category:

4) we know lots about laptops, we do some technical work (I am an engineer in training, I program also), we play some games (maybe not demanding max detail in Crysis, but still would like to play), and we want a portable laptop that we can carry around if we need to. We are personal buyers, so price is important. Then, this N61 ALMOST fits the bill perfectly, except for one thing: the low res makes the technical work bit difficult. Unfortunately, there aren't too many of us. That is why pre-built value-oriented entertainment notebooks don't have high resolution: the manufacturer doesn't want to make 100,000 of them and sell 10,000 of them.

At the end of the day, I think we need to look at this kind of issue from the other side of the counter. Employees of ASUS are paid to sit there for 8 hours a day trying to figure out which combination of hardware will result in the greatest sales volume. They do consumer studies, testing, etc. Then they make a choice. I find it hard to believe that over this much time, the idea of a high resolution N61 with a $100 price increase hasn't crossed their minds. So, I must conclude that they are not going down that road for a good reason.

 

In fact as I said, Asus has ONLY ONE laptop upto 16" screen size having full HD screen with a price tag of $1440 (approx) Full HD starts from there !

Again, I was just expressing my view for the screen resolution with these beautiful Asus models with recent/high end other hardware inside it in that price range. Means EXCEPT resolution other hardware configurations are tempting in their offered price ! If there would have been at least an option to upgrade the screen resolution, definitely I would have own an Asus laptop now !

 

ASUS also gave up the whole line of customizable laptops. I guess they just didn't want to deal with the variations possible and hence the entire fuss with the stock and warranty. If you standardize your lineup to just a handful of models you can limit the parts and stock you need to keep. So they choose the variants that they think will sell the most and stick with those.

 

URPradhan- U R an ASUS hater! We kicked you out of the N61JQ lounge because all you did was hate on them and recommend other computers. So now U R starting your own little ASUS haters lounge! Hows that working out for you?

 

if you want a better screen on the laptop get a nice monitor to go with it. I have never seen anyone site on a laptop trying to do work on a small screen. All the programmers at my work will hook up to either 1 30in or 2 24in screens off the laptop. They will only use the laptop screen if they have to. Like everyone has said, you can always get it from another company. In the end though it call comes down to cost. Asus did this to make alot of people happy on the price. Now some may not be but that's just how it is.

 

Mainstream market influence? That could be the only reason, IMO.

I see the trend of "downgrading" the desktop resolution as "supposed-to-be" branching steps as the time goes (similar when Intel introduced weaker "Celeron" to mainstream/non heavy-user), but really not to produce every laptop they release (of that size) to be in that low resolution.

 

I personally think that the full HD i.e. a resolution of 1920×1080 is too much for a 16" screen.
I had a look at full HD 15.4" notebook. After 15 minutes I started to get strain on my eyes beacuse the font size was too small.

1600x900 would be a good resolution. The font is not that small, but I think it is a matter of choice of the ASUS marketing.

My old ASUS M50Vm had 15.4" 1680x1050 resolution. The font size was little bit small but still very much usable.
I was told by ASUS support that the reason why they stopped offering these very high resolution notebook is that the sales for these small sized very high resolution screens was not that great and they stopped producing them.

If you seriously want an ASUS notebook and you can't live with 1366x768 resolution, then go for 17.3". Otherwise, you can buy from different brand that offers full HD 16".
I compared ASUS 17.3" to 16". The differece in size is not that much but you will get 1600x900 screen. That is what I did. I went for ASUS N71JQ to replace my M50vm.
The main reason to select it over N61JQ was the screen resolution.

 

What model was that?

 

Who are you to kick me out ? You are a sick, who says "ITS MY THREAD".(I respected to your words and voluntarily stayed off from YOUR thread [ru the CEO of NBR ]) But I'm not like you and you are WELCOME to post here (rather anywhere @ NBR).

FYI, I'm not an Asus hater, infact I like Asus laptops and thats why I express my feeling for the same. Rather you are a BLIND lover for Asus who can accept any crap Anyway, at EOD, we are the CONSUMERS, and its our right to choose/comment any thing for a product we like/dislike.

 

If you are truly a "consumer" than I have no beef with you. But when you go an a thread and only post negative about a brand. And constantly recommend other brands, and start a thread that say's " another crap resolution laptop from ASUS. Well I think you might have an agenda that has nothing to do with you being a "consumer"

 

Again you proved yourself as a sick have you seen my posts at WTSIB (What Notebook Should I buy) @ NBR ? If not go and see and then comment, whether I'm a consumer or not. I'm a person who give respect to its hard earning $s and want to spend wisely after proper research and not like you to stick with a specific brand blindly.

 

Buy wisely then.
It is what it is.
There is no use complain about it.
It's a decent laptop with a low res screen.

 

How is starting a thread that calls something crap "Wisely proper research".
There is no point to this thread hater ! Peace out.

 

Do what I did and get a good hdmi monitor. Close up the lap top and get 1920 x 1080.

 

Why am I buying laptop again?

 

Is he speaking swaheelee?

Or is that code for "your cool?"

..Jus sayin..

 

This thread is closed.

URPradhan, don't start threads with opinionated titles. It will only lead to arguments. This thread is essentially useless.