artic silver 5

do all manufacturers use the artic silver 5 as a standard configuration for the z70v notebook? and what is the advantage of this over others?

 

No, and they shouldn't.

1. It's not needed on a centrino system and will not help performance or the life span of the system and if you get a degree off of your system temp you'd be lucky... but you'd only see that maybe under a full load. If this was a P4 or an a64 that was overclocked, you'd see much benefit, but not on a centrino.

2. It will void Intel' end user 3 year warranty.... For dealers who use intel's boxed cpus like ourselves, the end user is entitled to a 3 year warranty on the cpu directly to with intel...... so if you get a 1 year or 2 year warranty and something goes wrong after that, intel would still cover you....... AS or any other thermal grease will void that warranty.

3. .. I thought I had a third thing, but it's late and I'm not so sure there was anymore to say anyway...

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Justin
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

You can actually read it in the warranty of the boxed CPUs I'm fairly certain, if not you can search intel's site for it. You can also ask Eddie from G2P, he'll concur.

Basically there is a way to clean of the cpu.... but if AS is ANYWHERE but the die itself, you're not going to be able to get rid of evidence of it. If you just got it on the die and cleaned it off with alcohol, I'm sure you wouldn't see anything at all........ but even the most experienced AS installer can't be 100% perfect when using it.... You can put the proper amount on the die and still squeeze out and get all over...... the heatpipe is tightening down of the cpu and it's going to squeeze out...... For something that isn't going to do you a lick of good on these particular setups, it's not worth it.

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Justin
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Well, they warrant the thermal pad, but don’t specify that using another thermal solution will void anything. They only say it must be installed correctly.

http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/05/03/50372_50372.pdf

The following are instruction guides for the CPU – neither require the use of Intel-supplied thermal pad, in fact, the 2nd contradicts that.

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/pm/sb/CS-007968.htm

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/pm/sb/CS-007971.htm

What you said surprised me about the use of Arctic Silver and voiding the warranty. Searching around, I have found nothing to back that up. I know that incorrectly applying ANY thermal solution, even Intel’s, will void the warranty, but that’s not the point.

I’m not trying to beat a dead dog here, but I think this might be critical to many people to find out if using AS WILL void the warranty.


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Odds are if intel decides to void the warranty your delar may or may not intervene. I would. The most important part here that you are missing. As Justing said the arctic silver does NOTHING for you. Why risk even a little bit and pay money for something that does nothing. I ve done my tests many times. DO not use arctic silver on pentium M. Do not pay for it and do not ask for it. You are better off without it. There are not too many dealers that do this stuff and test this stuff. The two dealers that are here namely my self and Justing are not pulling this out of their bass. Not trying to be rude if thats the way i just came accross i am just really tired of people asking for arcit silver and telling me "well they do it why dont you". For 5$ i would be glad to put some gooo on your cpu. It takes me 3 seconds and it costs me 1 cent plus 3 seconds labor. Now common knowledge would state that if we can make a buck as a dealer we would try. The reason we dont do it? You guessed it. Its a very questionable practice to put arctic silver on a pm. If we put it on for you and you decide to add some later and it gets all smeered i have no way of prooving we did not do that. We dont offer arctic silver. For anyone who specifically requests it i will put a big fat permanent mark that says "void dealer cpu warranty". In the many years i ve been doing it so far i had seen zero such requests. Stick to the approved thermal paste. On desktops arctic silver may get it coole ra few degrees. That is becuse on a desktop cpu the thermal past goes on a large surface. PM surface is very small. It does not help reduce heat. I have an m5n with no compount. It does not overheat. Stay pretty cool. Yes i am saying you can run these perfectly well without compound but its not recommedned.

Eddie
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Brooklyn, NY, 11234

 

Right, you want it, ask for it and we'll do it at no cost...... but you don't need it, it won't help you, blah blah blah..... But it's not something to make a big deal over.

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Justin
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Not trying to make a big deal, and I agree with you guys. The only thing I was trying to clarify is that, if applied and installed correctly, AS will not void the Intel warranty. There is nothing that I can find in any Intel documentation that states otherwise.

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Installing anything improperly will obviously void a warranty... everyone looks for that one little thing that went wrong. The chances of your cpu dying are slim to none... so lets stop right there.. it's not a huge deal. The fact is, it's impossible to install AS "perfectly" ..... I've done it for 5 years on many many systems and I'm about as perfect as you can get without having a machine do it...... and you still have a little bit of leakage.... it's impossible to cover the entire die and NOT have that... unless you're not coating the whole die and that's going to work against you. Intel is looking for any little hint of grease on the rest of the cpu, period. They don't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt... or anything else. It's the main reason AS is used by enthusists.... people who don't care about a warranty.

If AS did something for you in this situation, it would be totally worth it. But the fact is, if you're out of say our warranty and then something happens to your cpu and you're still within the intel 3 year warranty.... if Intel tell you that they won't help you..... come on, coming to us isn't going to get you a new cpu either... It's one of those after the fact things that you're UNLIKELY to run into, but if you do...... you do and you're SOL ..... now if you gained extra life or performance from using it in this situation, it would have been worth it...... thats all.. I think we already beat this to death... [ ]

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Justin
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