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    asus g1s serious bios bug proved

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by adolfotregosa, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    it's simple. Use your laptop on battery till por e.g. 50% charge. Then, make a superpi 1M or anything cpu eavy. In this case superpi is really easy to use. After making a superpi 1M on battery try to achive the same result on ac (while charging the battery). you won't untill the battery is fully charged.

    Please test on your G1S laptops.I've allready did on 2 laptops.

    We have to make asus solve the problem

    Thank you for your help

    Also, when doing a superpi on ac (when charging the battery) if you remove the battery the cpu will go to maximum
     
  2. AlexOnFyre

    AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer

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    sounds like adolfo is on a crusade!
    Yea, seems like a silly mistake by Asus, they should fix it in a month or so.

    But POWER TO THE PEOPLE
    Viva La Revolucion
    and so on.
     
  3. LiveDesign

    LiveDesign Notebook Evangelist

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    HAHA, well, I will have to try this adolfo. I am curious to see if it happens. o_O There are a lot of things that could be fixed in a BIOS update I just hope that Asus can hit on most of them.
     
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    Unfortunately it seems that many BIOSes are (recently?) very sloppy-implemented by ASUS... I know of at least 3 different problems besides this one, two of which are critical (meaning the notebook cannot be used without service after the problem has installed).
     
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    And my screen is grainy!!! ahhh111!!1

    ok just kidding,
     
  6. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    More users confirmed the speedstep bug. Please start calling Asus so they can solve the problem !!
     
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    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    yes but thanks anyway
     
  9. LiveDesign

    LiveDesign Notebook Evangelist

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    Adolfo,
    I tried this last night for you and you were right. I took mine off of AC and surfed for a while. When I was don the battery was down to 18%. When I plugged it back in I immediatly opened CPU-Z. Then I tried to run SuperPi and it would just lock up when it tried to allocate the memory. Finally around 92% battery SuperPi would run and the clock would not stay at 2.2, it would hang around 1.2 and jump to 2.2 just for a second then go back down.
     
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    Are some of you by any chance still using Power4Gear? It might be a power4gear bug...

    You can also try to override this behavior using a utility for explicit control of CPU speed like RMClock.
     
  11. adolfotregosa

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    it happens on linux too, so no power4gear !!
     
  12. JPZ

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    If you have the option, I suggest disabling speed step in the BIOS and using a 3rd party tool(as previously suggested) to control the cpu multiplier and voltage. That is what I do, because I find speed step to be very buggy. No trouble at all(EDIT: on my Z96J) once it is disabled.
     
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    I tought this was a nvidia driver problem, when I was on ac my super pi was 44 seconds for 1m. On battery it was 23 seconds. After I reloaded the vga driver from the cd, it went back to normal, super pi 1 m on ac went back to 23 seconds.
     
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    Well if it happens in Linux too, then it could very well be a BIOS problem and not just a driver/software issue.
     
  15. adolfotregosa

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    Maybe when you tryed that your battery was fully charged, discarge it a bit and then do the same !! It's a acpi bug. And yes, i did try rmclock and using it with cpu-z was when i found the bug. The bug will only happen when the battery is below more or less 95%
     
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    When you tried to use rmclock, did you disable speedstep? Speedstep does not play nice with 3rd party tools.
     
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    no i did not ! how do i do that ??
     
  18. JPZ

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    I have not seen the G1S in person, and have only seen floor models of the original G1, so I have not entered the BIOS setup and do not know which options are available.

    If you know how to enter the BIOS setup(where you configure all the available options), look for anything relating to speed step. It should be fairly straightforward.

    EDIT: What I meant to say above is that I cannot confirm that the option is within the G1S BIOS; however if it is anywhere, it would be there.

    I have noticed that while speedstep is enabled, Asus Power4Gear and other third party utilities work very poorly, if at all on my Z96J. Once speed step is disabled, everything works fine. However, there is no automatic processor scaling/throttling, and unless you use a 3rd party tool, performance and/or battery life may be an issue. Only disable speedstep if you are planning on using something such as rmclock.
     
  19. adolfotregosa

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    ohh ok , this bios does not have that option but thanks anyway
     
  20. JPZ

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    Hmm... that's odd.

    Did you close P4G when you tried rmclock? That can also get in the way.

    Perhaps the issue is power... I do not know how much power the 8600GT consumes. I would assume that santa rosa would be very similar to merom/yonah.

    Anyway, it is possible that the 90W power supply is not enough to charge the battery and power the laptop under full load, so Asus removed the speedstep option so that they could make sure that the processor clocks down while the battery is charging. They could have just had the battery charge slower, but that would have probably caused a bigger commotion(My battery takes 10 hours to charge when my G1S is turned on!!!) than this.

    You would think, though that Asus would just include a bigger power supply if this really was the issue.

    There has to be a reason, however that speedstep is not available in the BIOS, and I believe that it is tied to this issue/feature.