c90s cpu overclocking,Bios

Hi all I have had a c90s sence it came out ordered it from gentech . I have searched for countless hours on overclocking my computer and came to the conclusion that I would have to ask someone on this forum. I have the new nvidea v167.26 drivers to overclock my video card and the drivers seem to be the most current and best out. Although It was confirmed by ken that the asus turbo gear software does not work under and circumstance
extra cooling,ram,ect. Now im sitting here wondering if there is any current c90s bios that allow overclocking and or programs that allow the bios to be overclocked and information would be of much help thanks.

 

Huh, latest bios (version 801) allows you to OC the Video card with no problems. Turbo Gears VGA Enhancer can interfere with OC tools for your video card (like nTune and RivaTuner), simply uninstall the VGA Enhancer problem solved. The latest Nvidia graphics drivers are 169.01, 167.26 were the first that allowed OCing again.

 

I wasnt saying I had problems overclocking my video card I was saying that turbogear does not work to overclock my cpu It crashes everytime I try to use gaming mode. I was asking if there is any bios that allow overclocking in the bios for the cpu or software sence turbogear gaming mode does not work.

 

turbogear not posed to be used with e6600 or higher. Yes i realize this is stupid. asus own website says it wont work. As for overclocking you can always use a moded driver that allows you to adjust the core clock but you should ask ken if this interferes with warranty

 

...it works with my e6700, I can fully monitor the clock/fsb with EVEREST.

If your have it under the Turbo Gear profile under power management, its more of a dynamic OC where the FSB is increased and the CPU will get bumped up as needed, switch to performance and the clock sticks art around 2.9Ghz. Windows XP, first off you need to switch to Desktop/Always-on before OC will work properly. I don't know what would make the e6600 any different?

 

Im not worried about the warranty sence when ever you overclock it always voids the warranty. I just want to know where I can get the drivers or bios to overclock my cpu sence turbogear does not work properly.

 

It Should NOT! depending on your o.s. and turbo gear version.

 

Yeah, I have an E6700 and every time I select "Gaming Mode" under TurboGear it freezes. I'd love to know how you made it work! Thanks.

 

I'm dual booting now, and it does under both OS. I have all the latest drivers and bios from Asus. When I get home and I have some more time I'll post some screens from EVEREST and NV Monitor (only letting Turbo Gear VGA Enhancer OC video card to Asus specs to make you happy Ed).

 

I have windows vista 32 home and I would love to know how to fix turbogear to work with out crashing i have the e6700 everytime i select gaming mode it blue screen dumps and crashes. What do you have to do inorder to allow gaming mode to work ?

 

First, Window Vista letting my C90S idle all the clocks go down.

Second, Window Vista I start up and shutdown some apps like WinAmp with the Milkdrop 2.0 ref up CPU/GPU.

Third, Window Vista overclocked and again had to start and shutdown some app that used the GPU in some way (Game mode, not Turbo Gear icon in corner).

Forth, Window XP Portable/Laptop power setting with GPU idling.

Fifth, Window XP Home/Office Desk power setting with standard GPU.

Sixth, Window XP Turbo Gear Gaming mode, with VGA Enhancer.

 

Since when????? They had said overclocking mode wont work, but gaming mode will and so will power save mode this is still an overclock tho. So dont get the two confused with "overclock mode" and just overclocking in general.

The limit is a 2.93ghz, the e6700 goes to 2.93ghz in game mode. The e6600 only goes to 2.8x ghz in overclock mode. Turbogear was designed to work with a e6700. It worked with mine by the way too.

It is not going to work with a e6800 because its already at the 2.93ghz limit stock.


If your crashing its eather going to be ram incompatability or heat problems mostly.


BTW: do you know of moded drivers for overclocking??? I tried several paths like clockgen ect... but it does not support this chipset/mobo.

 

Both 167.26 and 169.01 allow OCing and a working PowerMizer in XP and Vista. You can find 'em at laptopvideo2go.com

 

I recommend 169. They are the newest and the .26s are old drivers that do not fix many glitches and problems with newer games.

 

Guys this thread is about the CPU not the Video Card!

 

Lol, just read rangers comment and i was reading a gpu thread at the same time, disoriented myself.

Ah well in that case yeah my turbogear works fine with vista 32 bit.

vicious how are or were you able to get on overclocking your gpu?
My gpu is 65-66 idle and the max with a 530/500 was 85 degrees.

Weird thing I was taking with Ken is that my gpu wont clock even to 501 memory. When I attempt it the gpu clocks down to 168/100 and stays that way and I have to restart. Later I got that I can clock to 530/500 and it ran the cod4 demo great at 1680 x 1050 everything high with 2aa. However I run crysis with that and it crashes. So how far were you getting on overclocks? I remember alexonfyre was saying he reached 500/550 but my mem just wont overclock.

Sorry for sidetracking thread. I'll pm you next time.

 

My current gpu has no overclock potential. Even 20mhz above what the turbogear enhanced vga drivers set it at will cause a crash.

I have a replacment enroute tho that will hopeully run cooler and have some overclock room, have a 256mb GDDR3 unit on the way to test also, if I can figure out why new drivers are droping the performance of the GDDR3 unit and fix it I may buy one of those and upgrade.

I am going to do a test for hellgate london between the two cards. If you read the minimum/recomended specs for helgate london, it says it recomends a 756mb card and 3gb system memory. Its a huge memory hog. I get 98% of my memory maxed right now with the 512mb card and 2gb system memory.

This will be a good test to see if the 512mb of memory on the slower card can in some cases out preform the faster 256mb of the GDDR3 card.

My guess is that fps will show higher in general with the 256mb card, however that if I look for it page filing will occure more often, wich can give very much unwanted pauses or stutters in the game while textures or info is read from the hdd instead of the ram. This pause does not show up on fps counters but is very noticable.

 

I think that Turbo Gear if it doesn't freeze the system works on alot more systems than people think. Its dynamic over clocking, meaning the clock does not go up unless a process needs it. I was launching Winamp, which only utilizes one CPU and it caused the CPU to go up to 2.98Ghz and only when I ran the MilkDrop 2.0 visualizer did the GPU go into action. As for the freezing, if a new bios didn't fix it my question would be did you install the OS, than the chipset/network drivers, than all Windows XP updates including optional, but not hardware (of the optional I only don't install the new desktop search, kills load time and performance), than all the rest of the C90S drivers (up to date from the site) and than ATK Drivers>>Turbo Gear w/VGA Enhencer>>ATK Utility. This is the order I've had the most luck with.

As you can see from EVEREST, TurboGear works on both CPU and GPU in both Windows XP and Vista. All it was for me was bios 601 and up (currently 801) and updated drivers and utilities. Its important to remember that ATK has separate drivers and utilities which aren't listed on the C90S page, but rather on a driver page under notebooks. When I reinstalled windows I also had better luck installing the ATK drivers, than Turbo Gear, then ATK Utility to get everything to work.

I also use nTune to monitor my video card to make sure the PowerMizer and Turbo Gear VGA Enhancer work as well. As for drivers 169.01 have been great.

 

Turbo Gear changes the FSB its not dynamic actully.

Thats still intels thing Speed Step doing that wich changes the cpu multi acording to cpu demand.

if you look no matter at idle or load the fsb will change depending on your setting of Normal, Game, and overclock mode.

This means that the ram is running faster aswell.

 

Ok sence turbogear works for you guys can you help me figure out how to fix mine. I installed everything from the cd up and just updated the software as i came across it. I dont think its heat issuies i ran a huge room fan underneath the thing and it still shuts off. Ranger you said that you do not get the drivers from the asus page but from a drivers page where do i get those from ? I really would apreciate the help.

 

I get most of my stuff from the Asus C90S support/download page, except audio which I get from realtek (up to R1.80), nvidia I get from Laptopvidoe2go.com, wifi I get directly from Intel (I would also get the chipset from intel, but its some kind of special chipset since it excepts desktop CPU) and ATK Drive/Utility.

In the support.asus.com download section choose notebook and then instead of C90 there is just Drivers and then just search and you'll see stuff like ATKDrv and ATK Utility.

 

We are all dealing with different configurations here, I think it would be a good idea to have in the sig your OS and Vid Card I have Vista 32 and Gddr3 and the 169 drivers work, but I think it's taking a serious performance it, but not sure yet.

 

ranger would you be able to put links in the order they need to be installed. when i try to install atk driver it does not show up in the programs list or window, only atk utility does. I really need to figure out how to fix turbo gear :/

 

Not TRUE, TurboGear would take you cpu intantly to 2.968 without doing anything all time...even when you dont play and gets in your head once and for all that turbogear doesnt suppose to work with XP neither with 6700 cpu type....I told this long time ago and nobody listened but the new bios wont let you use it because at one point it would damage your system and this was stated by ASUS support itself on email when they gave a solution for my BAD FLASH long time ago...Keep playing with that and you will regret it sooner or later....

 

8600M GT DDR2 XP/Vista 32 Dual boot

Meh not like I OC all the time, mostly when I'm compressing movies or large xip file, shaves a good half hour off. I use a Notebook cooler and its not OC Mode, but I only have Gameing mode available. As for the video card, I know everyone like to OC 500/500, I'll do that for benches and stuff, but I prefer to keep it at Asus defaults (Turbo Gear defaults 500/450). I'll get a list and order up.

 

Does anyone know MemSet ?
That should be nice to tweak the ram.
Mine is 5.5.5, I wonder if it can run 4 (or4.5) .4.4 ?

 

so, back on track, has anyone (not necessarily just on this forum) made a hacked bios that allows overclocking the cpu from within the BIOS not windows?

 

You may ask http://www.lejabeach.com/ASUS/ , but I'm not sure they will do a bios mod for a laptop / notebook.

 

Or here http://forums.biosmods.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=33

I think here should be nice http://osrom.net/biosmod/

Or http://forums.mydigitallife.info/forumdisplay.php?f=4

 

So I tried MemSet.
It works, I change all settings but CAS. CAS can't be changed, bug ?
I think MemSet isn't made for laptops or notebooks.
Instead of 5.5.5.15, I got 5.4.4.12, (and should have prefer 4.4.4.12).
It is possible to change SPD table with SPDTool, but it became risky...

I plan to buy Kingston RAM, review here

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They say it is impossible to set CAS on windows.

Order done, today.

Edit : Got them on 09/23/2008.

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I am disappointed, the ratio FSB: DRAM equals 1 is now 4:3 .