comparing the W7J and W3j

I apologize for 'another of those threads',

But I am still in the middle of the crossroad deciding what to get. The W3j has the most power but the W7j is most portable. Can you guys help me out here?

I wish to have the size factore of the W7j but with the power of the W3j to play games and do some .NET and SQL programming.

sorry to bother ya guys,

 

The w7j will be just as powerfull for .NET and SQL programming, so its up to you whether you want portability more, or the ability to play games more.....


(mind you both are still very portable)

 

I'm also interested in this exact subject, need a screen large enough for multi-tabling poker stars but also portable enough for daily commuting to campus. Ive heard the W7J has poor battery life? Its also too bad I can't get in white from retailers in Toronto.

i like to do 4 tables at a time sometimes upto 6 with 2 overlapping in the middle, not sure if it could work on a 13.3 inch, but I love the portability ...

 

hmm~ to get a balance between W3j and W7j is what parts you concern more. If you would like have most power for video game(W3j), then you need to give up the webcam and portable size(W7j). I think you understand what I mean. You can give you more chance for comparision for A8jm and W3j because the both's video is not a huge difference.
Cheers

 

The W3J won't give you any more screen real estate than the W7J, because they're essentially the same maximum resolution. The images and text on the W3J screen will just look slightly bigger.

In fact, the W7J resolution is 1280x800 whereas the W3J is 1280x768. So, technically you'll have a tiny bit more screen real estate with the W7J.

 

difference lies more in the price about 300 and the gpu 7400 in w7j vs x1600 in w3j..screen size difference really isn't that noticeable but w7j is smaller in size

 

Actually, I think personally that W7J screen is better then W3J in terms of quality. Subjectively, vertical and horizontal viewing angles are much better on W7J then on W3J. I feel that the screen on W7J is almost the same as Sony's SZ.
The screen on w3j is bad. Try to watch two movies on the screen at the same time in two windows. Place one window at the left lower corner of the screen, and another one at the right upper corner. Now, watch both movies at the same time. You will discover that when you change your focus from one window to another you will need also to move your head (up or down) to compensate poor vertical viewing angles of this screen. You can't see both movies in two windows at the same time (don't move your head!) with the same quality.

 

i am also in the same boat. I have heard that the viewing angles are poor on the w3v and its successor, the w3j. How good is the w7j's viewing angles and brightness? Also, how does the a8j compare to the w3v as far as viewing angles and brightness also? Are they the same screen or different?

 

Don't forget the W7J has soldered in memory, so you only have one slot to upgrade, and it will always be restricted by the 533 of the solidered stick.

 

There aren't many W3v models available outside of the secondary market, anymore. The problem with viewing angles is inherent in pretty much all 14" widescreen lcd's, regardless of model or manufacturer; there are multiple threads discussing this around here in the past. There is definitely a sweet spot for color in the middle of the screen. For video viewing when you have it centered it's not significant; I'd hazard a guess that most people wouldn't see major differences in the upper and lower part of the frame, as most film action tends to stay centered in the screen.

For pretty much all other applications, unless you have a solid color running from top-bottom or you're trying to have several people look at the screen at once, you aren't going to notice the color shift standing out in a major way.... but how does one define "poor"? If the screen was totally awful to the majority of the public, the units wouldn't be selling as hot as they are; still, some people are much more picky about their screens than others, either because of professional needs or personal preference - and the W3 is not a good screen to be doing photoshop or other work requiring true color matching. On the other hand, some people hate the prism-cut screen of the W7 and/or complain about the lcd backlight being on the side, too.

 

Can you elaborate on the prism cut or V-cut thing that the w7j has? All I know is that it reduces weight pretty significantly. My main concern is vertical viewing angles. I am one of those people who will keep on moving up and down or move my screen up and down in order to get the right angle. I despise lcd screens that start to drown out or turn negative when I just cock my head a little bit. From what you have said about 14.1" screens in general (sounds like the same problem that 14" standard screens have), I should completely avoid this screen size for the sake of my own sanity?

 

Would you really be able to tell the difference between 553 memory and the faster 667 or whatever? I wouldn't think so...

 

No you won't be able to. In fact, there is little performance difference from even old 266mhz chips. RAM isn't exactly advancing very well.

 

Same with me.
I've heard rumors that asus is going to ship next bunch of W7J here in Asia with different mothereboard. Hope it will be with 1gig of ram soldered. Also I am not sure abot CPU - if it soldered or not.

 

One of the proportable people said no asus mainboard ever had a cpu soldered except for one a few years back.

 

Could they possibly fit a larger GPU inside the W7J?? Is it physically possible??

My Dream Machine :W7J w/ Santa Rosa/Merom, 2 open RAM slots, 7600go 256MB DDR3... with a brushed aluminum lid... lol

 

So far your dream mashine is Sony Vaio FE28GP:
http://www.sony.com.sg/vaio/index.html?page=sonyhome
with much-much more better screen then ASUS.

 

Did he say it before W7J came or after?

 

Somebody mentioned here that w7j has Toshiba's LCD.

 

I think they said it afterwards.

 

Just because my word isn't good enough for some of you....... and some people continue to suspect the CPU may or may not be soldered for some reason.... below is a picture for you that says it all.

Also, for those that aren't following along.... I had the screen out of a W7 and Toshiba is the maker of this particular models screen.

 

You can find other details on the V-cut by searching in ProPortable's posts from a month or two back, I think. It's mainly supposed to do something for the brightness while minimizing the thickness even more, as I recall, but I could be wrong.

Go and look at some 14" screens in person, and then decide. If you can tell the difference on frequent apps and/or the verticals end up *really* bothering you that much, then you probably need to think about moving up to a different size.

 

Ok, so we know how a prism works... right? (not to you CS, but in general just an addition to your post).....

Well, we're talking about the thickness of the overall screen.... and to make it thinner, the bounce the light through a prism on the edges of the screen. Trying to sketch this up might actually help, but it's not going to look all that much different from a normal screen, it's just to save space thickness wise the bounce the light in a different way which works on this size screen.... I don't know how well it would work on a 17", but it works on the W7..... it should also be one of the least features talked about because most people will never notice or care how thin the lid is or how they were able to do it.

 

So does this make the screen any brighter than the w3j? I am just deciding on which screen is better. I am not saying the w3j has a bad screen, but if I had to choose, I would use the screen brightness and quality (how even the lighting looks, how clear, no graininess, etc.) to decide between a w7j and a w3j. I have been through 3 notebooks in the past school year as well as owned a few older ones and seen others. The screen is the most important factor to me. I can't exactly go to the local electronics store and examine an asus model up close so I will have to make due with word of mouth. Are there possibly any store display equivalents from Office Depot that I can compare the w7j and w3j to?

 

No, it's not any brighter...... they're both just about as bright. Most 14" screens are honestly similiar in brightness and resolution as the 14" HP..... although the W3 is better, if you want an idea, you can look at that. In terms of a 13.3" - Sony's SC series is going to be as close as anything.

 

Brightness isn't so important. Colors reproduction, and viewing angles are more important. It is easy to compare. Just open My pictures, there are four samples, open one (I prefer flowers) and look into it from different directions on each computer. Take a look on Sony FE, IBM FlexView (15", 1400x1000 and up screens) and you will definitely know what to look for.

 

Thanks!!!!!!!.

 

You're welcome...... you can all follow that from there.. right? There are four screws around the heatsink over the cpu and then two screws to the bottom left and right of the fan which would need to be removed in order to lift the heatpipe assembly off the cpu.... then you just do a half turn with a straight screw driver on the socket lock and lift the cpu out.

 

How is w7j inferior to w3j in build quality? Is it just the alum paint on w3j's lid or am I missing something?