duo core ?'ss

hiya-- gonna be gettin a 17" to use with my music programs--like the gamers out here these programs are cpu hogs--was wonderin if 1.6ghz t2300 is enough power--does the fact that it's duo make it a 3.2ghz?? will two chips make it run hot?? have fans runnin all the time??
leanin towards a7j(z83) maybe w2-worried about sound issues i've read about here

 

All laptops will run hot if you use it intensively, and the fans will be on obviously.


The Centrino Duo will be of very good use, for what you will be doing, I would assume.

 

No it wouldnt make it a 3 ghz chip. it will make it about 50 percent faster than a regular 1.6 but you cant compare the clock on that to say a pentium 4. The design is more efficient so it doesnt need the higher clock speeds. yes it will run hot if you game for hours. but also its your graphics card that matters for games not the CPU so a 1.6 regular pentium M would run games fine as long as you have a good card so dont worry about that. but a 1.6 dual core will run better than a pentium M 2.13 single core.

 

thanx for the info!! hey srd does your w2 sound decent-- i mean the speakers in the laptop--when i'm away from my active monitors i'll be listenin to stuff i make up, some of it heavy on low end.
coriolis-- nice review comparison w2 z83-two reviews in one!! does z83 play mp3's??

 

The speakers sound fine for a laptop. I do feel the HP harmon kardon sound fuller. the W2V and most any laptop wont be able reproduce the frequencies you are looking for. laptops just dont sound good for low end in fact it wont even hear it they are more for highs and mids.

 

Note that the Core Duo isn't two physical chips. It's two processor cores on the same wafer. And one of Intel's big goals with the new platform has been to reduce power consumption (and thus heat) while maximizing performance, so it shouldn't end up running hotter than a single-core Pentium M and possibly even a little cooler.

As for effective processor speed, trying to compare speeds with a mhz rating at this point is relatively counter-productive. You can compare within a single processor series, but it's hard to get a good feel for compared to other series without either a) hands-on experience or b) good benchmarks with workloads which mirror your own

 

thanx for the enlightenment! i also meant to ask how it sounds thru headphones??

 

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That was going to be my recommendation: Monitor through some good quality headphones, like Sennheiser or AKG, and you won't have to worry so much about the laptop speakers. I don't have any experience with it, but I can't imagine any reason you headphone out would be any different in quality than a line out (apart from both of them being unbalanced connections, but for road monitoring, it should be fine.)

 

Not 50%, in some cases it's "Up to" 40% increase in speed at the same clock speed, but it really depends on what you're running. Most of the time your seeing a 15-20% performance increase directly compared with a Intel Core Duo and Pentium M Dothan at the same speed.

AS for the heat, all the reviews show that the heat is not a concern, since Intel has jumped to 65nm, the core size has been reduced yet again, reducing heat dramatically, so even if it's 2 cores, the heat generated will be about the same. The best thing about this, is that the Core DUO actually use less batteries(voltage) compared to the Pentium M.

 

i was exadurating alittle. and it does depend on what apps you are running. but i think in the near future more and more apps will be taking advantage of the dual core.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648&p=1 here are some benchmarks. but in some tests there is over a 50 percent speed increase. depends what you do with your pc. if you are just surfing the net and using office doesnt really matter what chip you have you prob wont notice.

 

nice article find srd!-- i feel allot more comfortable that the duo will be able to help me out with the programs i'll be using--with having multiple screens and tracks going at the same time and being SMT compatable. i wonder why the (intel) have such a large latency on their L2 cache. i like learnin about this stuffand happy i have been blessed with some patience to wait until the duo's came on the scene
thanx agin

 

See some people the duo will make a difference for. I have 2 laptops i use often but i do all my main computing on my desktop thats why i have a dual core amd in that. For my laptop as long as it has no issues playing High def videos and stuff im happy they are fast enough. but im sure as soon as a dual core model i find interesting comes out it will be in my lap fast enough.

 

yeah i've got amd in my desktop--haven't seen many asus chassis with amd processors-i like the 64 capable idea and some parts of sonar music program are 64 bit

 

Im an AMD fan for desktops. But honestly they dont come close when it comes to laptops intel just kicks their ass there. The turion i feel was a rushed product.

 

I know that USB use on a Core Duo has been linked to downgraded power performance. Would a Bluetooth device circumvent the issue?

 

what do you mean downgrade performance?? i might use usb for external sound card--would that hurt?? maybe use firewire for same--would that hurt?? please explain

 

There is a bug where USB devices when attached to the core duo notebook will drain the battery in like 2 hours or less. But i believe there is a patch out and if its not will be out soon. not something to worry about really.

 

Here is a great article discussing the problem.

The short version: It's really a Windows problem, not a Core Duo issue, and will happen on non-Napa chips as well. There is a patch, though it has some problems. I'd expect it will be resolved before much longer though.

 

wonder if it happens with firewire use also???

 

It only happens with USB 2 products. Atleast there have been no problems discovered with either Firewire or Bluetooth.

 

iglad it doesn't affect the firewire ports.that's a interestin article ktismael posted. 17% is allot of battery to be eaten up. wonder what kind of tricks we gotta deal with when the merom processors come out.