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    how much will the new UL80/50V's be able to do?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by jk6959, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. jk6959

    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm looking into the new UL80V/UL50Vg (SU7300/4gb ram/G210m) and would like to see if you think it'll be able to play games (when connected to plug so can use 33%overclocking) like Diablo 3 when it comes out as I've heard it'll be DX9 or even games like COD4 reasonably (native res, lowish settings). I've seen promo about the netbook ION that claims it can play COD4 but realistically the cpu is weak so I'm having better hopes about this CULV & G210m combo over the ION for the portability, battery life and light gaming combo.
     
  2. kenze

    kenze Notebook Consultant

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    I'm in the same boat as you. I'm going to get the UL80 (btw, the exact model of the one with the G210M is UL80VT I believe.)

    well, look at it this way.. the ION has the performance of a 9400M~ and according to notebookcheck, that's much weaker than the G210M.

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    the core 2 duo SU7200 murders any Atom based CPU.


    this is as powerful as we can get from a "thin and light" with a 10 hour battery life.

    CoD4 will run at native res with everything nearly maxed out. guaranteed.
     
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    kroeze8_29 Newbie

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    I'm been looking into one of these also. They look to be pretty powerful for their size. I just wish somebody knew when they would be available.
     
  4. jk6959

    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    If it goes anything like this I will be a very, very happy camper... tempted to look into ssd as well when it comes out but hope price doesn't go out of the window, laptops coming to the UK have a crappy $1:£1 conversion rate it feels
     
  5. kenze

    kenze Notebook Consultant

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    has there been a release date announced for the UL80VT? I'm guessing it'll be released right after windows 7 comes out, but I wouldn't mind using vista for 1-2 months to get it early :p
     
  6. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    I am worried about that UL80. All the others have official pricing and most are being sold now, except for the UL80.

    Feels like the U80 all over again. I waited for months for the U80 only for it to be discontinued as quickly as they came out.
     
  7. kenze

    kenze Notebook Consultant

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    yeah, that would definitely suck if they discontinued it shortly after..

    but I really don't understand why they would.

    a thin and light laptop with 10 hours of battery life, switchable graphics and it has a function to overclock processing speed by 33%.

    what's not to love? :D
     
  8. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's not discontinued, it's just not sold in the USA anymore. Go get it while on holiday in Asia or get a friend to ship one in.

    I'm guessing reasons being Asians appreciate the technology more, the U80 series was designed with their local market demand in mind. While most folks in the US don't really bother what they buy, just that it's flashy/glossy and thin and can be carried around like a handbag. Ofcourse personally you might disagree but bear in mind those that cluster in forums are only the niche market not representative of the majority demand that companies see.
     
  9. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    I did not know that you could still get it in Asian markets but unfortunately I am not taking a trip to any of the countries nor have any friends there.

    I personally am not familiar with buying preferences in Asian markets but I think your statement is a contradiction. You are saying US people like flash and gloss while Asians like technology, yet we are talking about a notebook that is glossy, attractive to the eye and does not have high end features. Discontinued in the US but still being sold in Asia?

    I am not saying I know anything on the matter just that is definitely not a good example. But back to the topic I am one of those that is in the market for something that is flashy, attractive, and portable first and have the features I need second. Price comes in third. Despite being superficial with my notebooks I still need it to have the features I need (which is a certain level GPU so I can play some mid ranged games)
     
  10. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    There is no contradiction, but your missing out on my point. That of which I did not stress enough or cite more examples to keep my post short.

    I'd like to add companies enjoy consolidating designs to keep costs down obviously. Glossy screens/body and the like, they are all driven by western design demands more than asian simply because most of the world's money and buying power is circulated there.

    I've been living in Australia most of my life, was an exchange student in Korea and been in Taiwan and Japan on attachments more than half year each. The difference in technological literacy is jarring to be honest. I'm comparing your typical city dwellers. The asians are really up to date with tech, they know when to buy and when to wait on the cpu/gpu roadmaps, and this is not just your typical science student culture, even the arts folks are just as well read.

    Going back to western countries, this is precisely my point, most people are just satisfied partying through college and getting laid. That's how companies like apple thrive. When it comes to asia the rules change, even iphones are not carrier bound. And don't get me started with broadband proliferation.

    You could argue that your friends keep up with tech too, but there in lies the rub. Your group is a minority. I need not cite more examples. The fact that U80v is not sold in the states is self evident of my point. Different cultures different market demands.





    And I repeat my point of U80v being still sold in Asia because the majority of pple there have similar priorities, unlike the place you're in. Just be thankful Asus decided to consolidate the UL80v as the common base design. Unless ofcourse bestbuy decides to bring in something like the stripped down U80a to feed your market. :p

    Pardon me while I toy around with the affordable UL80VT at my local retail shop. :D
     
  11. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    Let me just address this and hopefully we can move on to topic and not derail this thread:

    That whole assessment is pure and utter nonsense. I do not mean to be abrasive but someone should never say things like that, especially out loud. The iPhone is carrier bound in the US and Europe because people tend to go with carriers (post paid). Carriers offer deals and people like certain carriers so it is attractive for customers to go that way. You can buy unlocked iPhones at a premium price and the carriers also offer that option. Many people buy unlocked cellphones in Europe.

    And I do not know where to start on the partying and laid statement. You watch too many Hollywood movies. I am not American nor am I there now, but I lived there for 10 years and went to college and that is really a stupid statement.

    The biggest misconception in the world is that Asia is more technologically advanced than the big Western counterparts. Asia is a manufacturing market. Many high tech items come out of Asia for many reasons but the biggest being low employment wages. Do they have a space program on the level of the US? Military Technology? Scientific Research and Development? The US is a place of inclusion and they have great minds there and attract other great minds to come to the US to do R&D. That would not be possible with a bunch of stoned, horny kids who never listened in pre-calc.

    And the iPhone 3Gs was a smash hit in Japan. I saw the lines on TV on the launch day. Glossy, low-tech Apple is attractive to Western & Eastern sheep alike.

    The Asus U80V is a flashy, glossy notebook with lower mid range features. The whole U/UL/UX series is all about thin and pleasing design and they even market it in that fashion. I really fail terrible to see the point. I do not dispute that buying patterns are probably different when comparing Asia to the US, but your assessment is far from accurate. You summed up the US as a place that does not care about tech specs too much and more prefer attractive design, yet we are discussing a notebook that is low tech and attractive that was discontinued in the US but still sold outside?

    Maybe I lack the mental understanding right now from all the drugs and partying I did in college with the other Americans.

    Edit: I do envy you right now about the UL80VT. I am trying to hold out for it because I love the design, but I desperately need a new notebook and after waiting on the U80V then to see it not available where I am, I do not know if I can wait any longer. Pics appreciated.
     
  12. jk6959

    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm in same boat, borrowing laptop atm, and if the UL80VT doesn't come out around Win7 release date, I'll probably end up getting a damn Timeline... Acer build + SU9400 +4500m/ati 4330 isn't the SU7300(+33%OC when wanted) + better battery + Asus build + 4500m/G210m I was looking for..
     
  13. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    LoL Ditto here! I have been considering the Acer Timeline as a alternative too if I cannot get the UL80. But out of curiousity which build is that that offers an ATi GPU and an SU9400? Those are not options on the acer US website.
     
  14. kenze

    kenze Notebook Consultant

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    the ul80vt has everything someone might need.

    -good processor/ amount of ram

    -graphics for its size (equivalent to a 9500)

    -insane battery life

    -dvd drive

    -slim and sleek for a 14inch laptop


    why doesn't Asus announce anything for north america and europe?

    we're nearing the windows 7 launch and still nothing.

    their marketing skills suck.
     
  15. jk6959

    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    any mention of whether this thing will actually use GDDR3, I'd be pretty disappointed and probably go for acer with ati4330 if it was just plain DDR3 used.
     
  16. kenze

    kenze Notebook Consultant

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    rankings from notebook check...

    102* ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330

    80* NVIDIA GeForce G 210M

    I'm thinking that it would still outrank the 4330 with DDR3.
     
  17. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    Well the following Asus models are currently priced and available:

    Asus U20 - $950
    Asus UL30 - $750
    Asus UL50 - $750
    Asus U80/U81 - Best Buy carried the U81 for $700 and Amazon the U80 for $969

    We are still waiting on the UX and the UL80
     
  18. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    Let me guess, grasping points is not your strong suit?


    My freshman experience in Aus was very much in the spirit of what the obviously exaggerated hollywood portrays, either I'm blessed or we Aussies are a horny bunch. If you spent your dorm days like a monk I'm sorry, but that's no reason to go flying off the handle.

    Your lack of comprehension strikes again, my point was asians appreciate tech more. Why? Simply cos they do not blow credit and spend life repaying debt. They plan before buying. Corporations have less opportunities to milk them. And yet you manage to equate that with the military, good job. You also fall flat on your (pointless) point of employment, if you look up the demographics of foreign students staying on and being employed in the research fields you speak much of, you will find that does not reflect the general population's demographic....hmm I wonder why.. :). But I degress, that's a whole other can of worms for your attempt at going off topic.



    U80v is not low tech for an ultralight, it is infact one of the better ones, and popular too. Economics is like democracy, but you vote with your wallet. Even if you want it so badly for yourself the market forces still decide what's imported. Blame the others around you for their purchase habbits if you will but whining and getting emotional on an internet forum gets you no where.
     
  19. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.

    The UL80V will be able to do more of what a notebook can do with a netbook kind of battery life.

    Doesn't the UL80 have the oddest name? The Us go by 20 (12 inch), 30 (13 inch), 80 (14 inch), 50 (15 inch).
     
  20. CashmerePinto

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    i was in a forum on amazon.com for the UL80 (you can google it to find the URL) and an ASUS rep said it will be on amazon.com for pre-order on October 18. As it ships with Win7 it's not available earlier in the US. Apparently the UL80Vt is also coming out and will cost $850. Talk about a deal!
     
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    I'll wait and see about that...
     
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    It also says
    Crazy talk right there.
    I know the 'dollar' is plummeting and all but ill assume the infamous 'fat finger' disorder using the currency calc was the instigator.
     
  24. CashmerePinto

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    haha well it's just the things I've seen online. We'll find out next week what the UL80's pricetag is, as it will be released in the US to coincide with Windows 7.
     
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    Just FYI, the Asus UL80VT was posted on amazon.com today. MSRP is $849.99.
     
  26. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Resellers like GenTechPC have them marked at $819