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    merom + x1600

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by who8mahrice, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. who8mahrice

    who8mahrice Notebook Evangelist

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    So I'm thinking about the S96j...and let's assume some things just for the sake of argument.

    Suppose the S96j does have a graininess problem and I won't be able to live with it...suppose the problem does lie in the BIOS or OS...

    Now we all know the current Merom will be drop in compatible with a BIOS update...

    Therefore, if I get an s96j with Merom...will the graininess problem probably be gone?
     
  2. PROPortable

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    That's a super optimistic way of looking at it. If it is in the bios, which I do not believe it is, they'd physically need to address it when making the bios for Merom...... if they just address the 64bit issue, I can't see how you'd come to the same conclusion you have...

    The S96's screen is grainier than other 15.4" WXGA screens Asus has used in the past, but most of the time they were used with integrated graphics... I believe it's either the screens themselves (which is the most likely issue - Asus had to certain screen to be part of I3)..... or a driver issues with the graphics card.... Although I'd like to say it's the driver, I really do think it's the quality of that screen.
     
  3. Bhatman

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    1st of all, any X1600 will have the grainyness problem. Time and time again its been seen in this GPU. Even with the Merom BIOS update, there isnt any change. The grainyness is not a serious issue, unless you have to do a bunch of editing of pictures, then you might have a problem.
     
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    No, that's incorrect...... The W3j and W2j don't exhibt graininess...... and it's not simply a lower resolution issue with the higher end graphics in the case of the S96 because the W2 that has come into the US to date have been pretty low with a WXGA+ screen and I don't see anything there.

    I think most people who are either gamers or into more professional graphics type stuff certainly can't live with the graininess, so the question would then fall on the need for the graphics card.... if you're someone who can live with it, either the gaming isn't that detailed, or you're just really laid back.

    ... if anyone had the model number on that S96 screen I could look into it.
     
  5. Pomme

    Pomme Notebook Consultant

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    question: so if all X1600 have grainyness, would getting the Nvidia 7600 be smarter?
     
  6. Feral

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    Yea ive been wondering this myself Pomme, the s96j is a really nice lappy performance wise, but the x1600 issue would bother me way too much, then if you go the route of a 7600, i believe you dont have as much power as well.
     
  7. RC30

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    I don't know where you heard that, but I disagree. My Z96J is crystal clear at wxga+. It pwns my Dell's wxga+.

    PS:
    and I've had both a Merom and a T2250 in it and haven't noticed any difference.
     
  8. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    RC30, Your Z96J has a WSXGA+ screen.... The issues I believe may be worthy to look into would be again, first the screen.. the S96j uses a lower resolution screen than what you have and is low for such a dedicated gpu - although shouldn't cause a problem. More than likely, the low quality of the screen used on those Intel backed "S" models is the source of the problem. I have not heard of one screen issue with the Z96's at all.
     
  10. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I dont not agree with you, it has to be a driver issue.

    Someone switched the screens with one from another Asus notebook and it still exibited the problem.

    Plus some 5672's and other notebooks with X1600's have the same problem.
     
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    You sure it's an auo? Not that I don't believe it, I actually would even without even looking it up myself..... because those are cheaper screens and don't appear on any of Asus' other models..... the problem with the I3 models is that intel dictated which screens could be used in those models and Asus didn't really have a choice.
     
  12. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well its an Auo according to Everest.
     
  13. who8mahrice

    who8mahrice Notebook Evangelist

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    Hrm..so Justin's the only person with any imput on the original question before my thread got hijacked >_>?

    And there's no problem on the Z96j, you say? Hrm...
     
  14. robohgedhang

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    But I have a W3J and the screen is grainy also.... I saw F3Ja and it was grainy... And I saw the Benq S73 (which also has X1600), and guess what... it's grainy.
     
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    wat exactly is "grainy".. is it like non-smooth?
     
  16. coriolis

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    I would say its over-hyped(rather, neagtively), if no one ever mentioned it, I doubt it would even be of an issue.

    Basically, it looks like there are little particles on the screen, only if you look at it really closely, I think. Best to either do a search and see, or ignore it and buy the notebook.
     
  17. usapatriot

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    To me its really a minor issue, I still love my S96J.

    Plus, Ken over at Gentech has opened up a case with their Intel rep about the issue. The rep confirmed the issue to him, so now it might be getting somehwere!