n81vp or n81vg?

hi all

so this is my first post, though i've been lurking around these forums for a while.
this is my situation - i've been stuck between a decision to either purchase the n81 vp with the ATI mobility radeon, or wait for the vg with the nvidea card. from what i read, the vg has a weaker GPU but stronger battery life. both of these laptops fit everything i need, a thin and light laptop with decent gaming and processing power.

so my question is, how much weaker is the nvidea card compared to the radeon, and how much longer will the battery last for in the vg? i will be entering university next year, so i'm putting battery life fairly high on the priority list haha. but being so, is the vg worth the wait? i mean it's been 2 months since it's been announced, and still no sign of an official release date..

 

What are the cards? HD 4650 vs GT 130M? There are no benchmarks on the forum yet (hint search function), but from their specs, I'd estimate the HD 4650 probably will be 10+% faster than the 9700M GT which is about 5-10% faster than the GT 130M.

 

the press release in february said it runs a 120M.. so i'm guessing that's a little bit worse? (little bit maybe being an understatement)

so what would be the difference between HD 4650 and GT 130/120 in a newer game like COD4? is there a huge frame rate drop?

 

It also depends if the GT 120 is being paired with DDR2 or GDDR3. What is taking so long for those to be released XD.

 

Can't help with the comparison but I can tell you that the N81Vp plays COD4 "like butter" with most everything turned up except AA @ native rez. The new 9.4 ATI drivers which have been mobility modded elsewhere on this forum made a big difference, play is now totally smooth, no hitching or tearing.

Can't help with battery life, either; almost always plug her in. But for general use with things like BT and wifi turned off and the screen turned down 2.5 maybe 3 hours should be doable.

 

knowing me i'll probably have screen brightness turned down.. i hate staring at a bright-as-sun screen lol. and bt will rarely ever be on. wifi may be a different story. Gentech said 2 hr 20 minutes right? so with that stuff turned down could i be pushing maybe 2 hr 45 - 3?

 

Go to the GenTech site, they have game demos for COD4 for those laptops, well the one with the AMD GPU, but they also have some laptops with 120M GPU's and 130M GPU's the 15.6" 51 and 50 series if I remember correctly( sorry forgot exactly what models).
They don't have the N81vg model yet but they do have the above mentioned laptops with those GPU's (120M and 130M) see for yourself how they each perform, your eyes won't lie.
I think the ATI N81vp is better for gaming and if you think you need the bigger battery just ask GenTech or whichever re-seller you end up buying it from if the can supply you with a larger capacity battery, most companies are very willing to help you out.

 

I did test Crysis demo on N51Vf's GT130M with game video, the result, N81Vp's HD4650 performs much better.

 

i saw somewhere on this site that the n81 is bottlenecked?

 

Could you elaborate on this topic?

 

don't laff at me if i was being gullible = /

 

He was talking about the N51, not the N81. GDDR3 vs. DDR2 can make a moderate sized difference.

 

so this means that theres no bottlenecking in the n81? = ) whooo HOO

 

The term "bottleneck" is used to refer to performance-limiting hardware. For the N51Tp that person stated the "bottleneck" was the graphics card's onboard memory as it was relatively slow (DDR2 is worse than GDDR3 for GPUs) and hence the graphics card would not operate at full speed. On other computers the bottle neck may be the hard drive, the processor, RAM speed, etc.

 

after some more investigation the gt 120's 3dmark06 score is around mid to high 5000's i think, compared to the ati's 6000 some-odd score. what's this mean? i'm not too familiar with this but i'm guessing the higher the score the betteR?

 

Yep, you got it; higher is faster.

 

So do you think the N81-vg could still handle games like Left for dead?? The 9600M (comparable card to the GT120M) is still a decent card.

 

Yes, both the 9600M GT and the GT 120M (they are practically the same card) should be able to run Left 4 Dead with med-high settings without issues.

 

the gt120M SHOULD perform better than the 9650GT. mind you i'm purely looking at 3dmark06 scores lol. but it doesn't make sense to me why asus would downgrade with a newer model right?

 

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The n81vg is available at newegg already.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220510&Tpk=asus n81
n81vp = $1300

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220519&Tpk=n81vg
n81vg = $1000

I've been watching this laptop for several weeks now, and there are finally a few reviews on newegg. Don't think that anyone from this site has reviewed theirs yet, although a few people said they have ordered this laptop.

The biggest difference between the two is the cpu and gpu. The n81vg has a p8600 and the gt120m, the n81vp has the t9550 and the ati 4650, as well as some accessories(backpack and mouse). Is that enough to warrant the $300 price difference? It depends. The n81vp is definitely more powerful, and more people have played around with it, whereas some of the specs for the n81vg aren't quite reliable yet.

IMO, both laptops have the power to play most modern games at good to decent settings(without AA), but the n81vp should last you longer in that area.

 

The $300 price difference can be narrowed. GenTechPC and ExcaliburPC both offer it for less. ExcaliburPC is actually having a 13% discount on it right now (their normal price is $1,400) bringing the price down to $1,189 with free shipping.

 

Why is Excal's pricing so low? I like the price, puts the laptop in my range, but why so low?

 

because they're getting rid of the N81Vp-C1 in prep for the -D1

 

I have been searching for the past 15 minutes and have not been able to turn up ANYTHING on the N81Vp-D1. Do you have any details on what the specs might be?

 

me neither. there are no announcement for such thing like N81VP-D1.

 

I think ABC was just trying to generally say that they are lowering prices for some random new model thats coming out..
but if there are any specs, want to share?

 

yep, pretty much (thx)...

also, if anyone could look at gentech's site for the -C1, next to the price they say 1,199.00 - "EOL, will be replace by N81Vp-D1"


BTW I waited to see what promo's Asus would offer for June. The n81vg gets $100 rebate.