nVIDIA 8600GT MXM II MODULE SELL AS PART! from Excaliberpc.com

I don't know what are these guys doing (excaliber) but selling separate video card from a 90S barebone is weird. And they actually sell the C90S without a graphic card... so is there a built in video card (intel chip) in C90S or what?

http://www.excaliberpc.com/Asus_NVI...deo/90-C1CIZ5-JXBN00Z/partinfo-id-579488.html

185$ for that piece I dont know whether if it fits in my Z84J or not but I'll take the chance. Any recommendations or comment about this?

 

The C90S is supposed to have modular VGAs, so I think that all they are doing is selling the modules separately. Asus must be supplying them more modules than the barebones systems, i guess...

 

I think I've seen a number of other places offer the C90S without a video card. I know someone who's replaced a video card in a dell notebook before, but I'm not sure how securely the video card is installed in the Z84J.

 

Hmm over reacting abit??

lol you could buy them without the gpu from day one, just not at mainstream resellers.

Im sure it will only become more common as we get a few more gpu choices. Right now we are still stuck with the 8600gt only, and thus why not all places over the option of seperate video cards yet.

 

Ya, quite a few dealers have them too.

 

I know that the Z84 uses MXM, but I'm not sure if its Type II or Type III, you might want to check with Ice-Tea or another MXM expert on this first. And you will need to have Windows Vista to make use of DX10; Microsoft is being stupid and not letting XP users utilize DX10 even though there is no hardware issues.

 

im wondering about that too

because the z84 was compatible with regular mxm cards and the c90 is not correct?

So really the z84 is the only asus that is generically mxm 2 not asus specific mxm.

 

how about a z84 with a 8700 gt ?

 

I thought the C90 was Type II MXM compatible, and Alex's C90 didn't work with the MXM card Ice-Tea sent him since that was an Arima special and he couldn't get the heatsink off of his 8600GT (other people have done it...dunno why he couldn't)....Not sure though.

 

Yes ,when Asus ship it, it does not come with the 8600M GT pre-installed.

When you buy it from a builder website like geared2play, gentech and co. it is on because it's the only one but when you buy it on a part reseller (such as newegg, although newegg does not have the c90) they come as 2 parts.

 

yawnnnnnn, wake me up when a better card is sold for the C90....
wait actually I havent received mine yet... im starting to despair...

 

The 8700 is MXM-IV so forget about it =/

The G80M (or G81M) is suppoed to consume 22W so we might see a MXM II 8800M GS

A 9600M MXM II is highly probably though

 

hell ill settle for a 8600gt with ddr3 memory...

 

Yeah it's too bad Asus didn't put a 256MB GDDR3 clocked at 700mhz for the C90S.

The 512MB DDR2 desktop 8600GT are really worse than their DDR3 brothers.

At least, I really hope we see a 9600M or something like that

 

The ddr2 is what allows the price of the c90 what it is. I knew it was too good to be true that I we were getting such a good deal on it. Regardless patiently awaiting the 8800m...

Also the 8700 is mxmIII there is no such thing as MXM IV, clevo/sager came up with that themselves and its not an official mxm type. We might see a c90 compatible mxm 8700 down the road but I am banking on the 8800.

 

The Desktop 512MB DDR2 8600GT are the same price as the 256MB GDDR3.

It would have been like $10-30 more expensive.

But anyway there is likely to be a 9600M GT MXMII (well, there was a 6600, 7600 and a 8600) so I'd upgrade next year

 

Don't know where you got 10-30 dollar difference. I have seen minimum of 60-to max of a bit over a 100 dollar price difference. I think the price difference is even bigger in laptop cards. Also Asus has its reasons for the ddr2. Think about it they are a company which has to make a profit. If they sell a weaker card but with a lower respective price then people like most of us c90 owners are will be anxious to upgrade since many of us bought the c90 for this very reason. If they give us the ddr3 with the higher price then some won't be as willing to upgrade because the card is pretty good (arguably the ddr2 is still good which I believe it is) and thus you lose customers when the mxm card does come out.

 

The 8600GT costs $120, there couldn't be a 100$ difference


And the DDR2 desktop 8600GT are running at 650mhz versus 400 on the mobile one

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814136012

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143105

45 dollar base price difference with rebate 75.

Like I said you can't compare desktop to laptop pricing of cards since in laptop cards the ddr2 vs gddr3 makes a bigger difference.

Edit:Ooops wrong link.

 

That's a GTS, not a GT

The GTS runs faster than the 8700M

And AFAIK, a memory chip is a memory chip, the one in the laptops are no different...

 

man... excaliberpc seems not to answer my email about the Card.... i'd give it a try but they aren't available.

The 7900GS arima is made with different size and bolts position than the regular card made by Asus. I'm just hoping some one in my city has the C90S and willing to let me try the 8600 on my Z84.

 

Yeah Arima is MXM-III but with a different screw holes than the standard MXM-III.

But the Z84 has a 7600? The 7600 is MXM-II AFAIK and both are made by Asus so it shouldn't be a problem.

You could e-mail asus to know

 

Thanks for advice, I'll send an email to them and see.


This is really cool , hope all the screw positions and size will fit the Z84, since it's Asus standards.

Is there any other place to buy this card for cheap?

Excaliber just emailed me and they says this part is available as separate part not system pull.

 

Well at all canadian website I checked it was $205.

 

man.. just ordered it.. hope it works.. otherwise i just wasted 196$ .

WEll, i guess i'm just gonna resell to ice-tea if he needs it.

Praying to get the part on Saturday from USPS.

 

You can still try to RMA it, they might charge you 15% though

 

Well if it woks please let us know my brother has a z84jp (believe thats what you are talking about right?) Hell probably wnat to upgrade too

 

Drop me a line if it works or not, will you?

The C90 card is not giving me much love, I'd like to hear more..

 

Khanh,

Sorry about the late response, your order has been shipped via USPS Prioirty today (usually takes about 2-3 business days). We just want you to know if the card ends up not working out for you, please feel free to send me a private message, so I can help you with the return or exchange on the side. Thanks!

 

Just wanted to notify you you may want to be carefull selling these cards.

The c90 card does not seem to work in Uniwill MXM notebooks.

 

Ice-Tea

Thanks for the advice, we'll make a note on this.

 

Hmm that's unfortunate, I was really hoping to give it a try.

Out of curiosity Ice Tea what happened? Did it just not boot?

 

quick Q, I know this is an Asus forum, but does anyone know if this card would work on Acer 5920?

 

NOit's not goin to work.

I tried on my Z84J .. nothing seems to work.

The card does not fit properly with the heat sink...

me and Ice-tea stuck on how to make the card work on other notebook.I wish i know more programming to i can write some kind of mod bios from C90S to Z84 compatible.

More detail: well, after plug in the card, i remove the metal heat sink of the card and put my heat sink with fan on the core of the GPU for better cooling. The card is shorter and smaller than the regular 7600 card. HOwever, the 2 screws to keep the card in the motherboard fits properly.

Turn it on, it won't turn on the LCD, HDD spins and tries to boot then it's just stuck there. . That's it.

I'll post some pix of this.

Hopefully some expert in programing and hardware modifiers can do something !!

After many tries....All i can say is I need a bios or somekind of Mod to make it work.

 

Same thing as Khan. Spins HD,LEDs come up then a hard shutdown and restart. Again. And again. ANd..

 

So correct me if I'm wrong, but this standard mxm II 8600M GT card for the C90 isnt standard mxm after all? This is really frustrating - it seems that the mxm standard is simply not working, due to manufacturers getting 'creative' and changing the size, shape, cooling set-up or whatever. Looking at these pictures ( http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=421&type=expert&pid=3 ), the C90s cooling system looks completely different to most mxm setups, with the cooling system going both above and below the GPU, and now Ice-Tea, cant get the card to work in a laptop with the mxm standard, and neither can Khan (although, I'm not sure his notebook uses the mxm standard to start with..), and again, correct me if Im wrong, but someone couldnt get a standard mxm card to work in the C90 - supposedly utilising standard MXM II. So, I'm starting to think the whole standard of mxm is completely meaningless as far as the consumer wishing to upgrade is concerned. I think this is a case of the customers best interest and the manufacturers best interest being completely opposite, and so far, the manufacturers seem to be winning......

 

Why are you guys going after all this effort for the crappy 8600m GT DDR2 C90 card... It's the Asus GS1 that has the 8600m GT 512md DDR3... That is the card that everyone is trying to get. The GS1 card needs to be looked at. Maybe excaliber pc and get a hold of one;

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=144051

 

What are you talking about? This is a seperate mxm card which you can upgrade, thats one of the selling points of the c90 if you haven't noticed. The g1s version is not mxm and people were just experimenting with the c90.

 

The G1S has 256MB GDDR3

 

because gpus are not upgradeable (except on teh c90 and very few others) so if they manage to use the the 8600gt card on their laptop theyll get a better card on their machines and this card just happens to be sold as a separate and supposedly its standard so there is a better probability of it working

 

Just trying .. so other memmber with older gfx card can upgrade for better gaming.. if it's not working.. that's still a try.

 

yeah, my laptop has a go7600 256 mb, so if I could stick this c90 8600 gt in my computer, even with the not-so-good memory, It would probably more than double my current gpu performance. On my current set-up I can play older games like hl 2 at maximum settins (no AA), outputting to my 22 inch monitor at 1680x1050, which is amazing, as the games get newer, I have to turn things down - FEAR at max 1250x800, and I cant even manage that with DiRT or oblivion, so Im really gonna need an upgrade as the newer games come out...I hope that in the next year more mxm options become available....