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    sorry for this question :D

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by blow, Nov 12, 2006.

  1. blow

    blow Notebook Enthusiast

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    How can i know if a laptop is an MXM/AXIOM notebook?
    Im say about A8Js, i would know if its video card is MXM type.
     
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    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Pretty give the MXM/AXIOM technology has been almost extinct. Not enough support for it, so it has started to gradually die down.

    Pretty much upgrading in notebooks are very rare, so don't even count on it, as if it does exist, the upgradability will be either costly or hard to find, if not both.
     
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    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    Nope. Usually a if a notebook has this rare feature, it will be very heavily marketed. AXIOM/MXM is stating to die out because of lack of support. The A8Js's go7700 is a nice card though, I wouldn't let the fact that it isn't MXM stop you from purchasing. Very, very few notebooks have the feature to upgrade. FYI, MXM is nVidia while AXIOM is ATi.
     
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    Nrbelex Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Dalantech Notebook Consultant

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    Even if both technologies were fully supported it wouldn't make any difference. Laptop manufacturers don't want you to upgrade the video card -they want you to buy a new laptop. If manufacturers were serious about providing upgradeable video then there would be a better, more end user friendly way of doing it than MXM or Axiom.

    Anyone who tries to make either video technology look as if it is upgradeable might as well be trying to sell you snake oil...
     
  6. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    the a8js is MXM type of gpu

    It is an exact mirror of mxm type two. same size and everything.

    It is asus only. In theory anyone with an a8jm could put the 7700 in their laptop.

    No one has done this but Im eager to see.

    So no its not mxm, its asus mxm. Its a removeable card.
     
  7. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    `Asus MXM`

    Heh, well, it`s not even an exact mirror as it lacks mounting provisions.
     
  8. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    well the gpu was probably made from the same board they just turned it around.

    asus is different than any other notebook maker besides maybe msi.

    asus makes the video cards for other laptops. So theyre cranking out most if not all of these mxm type cards

    http://estore.asus.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=3284&catid=461

    theres another link for you ice tea.

    The thing about this model is that before it was released it was advertised as mxm.

    the a8jm. the a8j has a8ja with x1600, a8jc with 7300 a8jp with x1700, a8jm with 7600 a8js with 7700.....


    and possibly more to come.

    Its probable that the lower a8j models can upgrade to the higher models. But I dont think anyone has done it.

    ok the big difference between an mxm type of gpu, and like the kind in a dell lets call that axiom type or its just dell type....

    Is that you can plug the gpu in without a bios update. the bios is in the card. Thats why its a key point that it is a mxm type of card.

    Also, I think its quite possible you will see this format in another make. Because asus makes macbooks sony vaios and toshiba sattilites.
    But not even that, I think this exact same card is in the compal hgl 30 but its just a suspicion based on what the compal dealer said.
     
  9. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    I agree that they probably copied the bus pinning, but as you can see there are only 4 mounting holes instead of one. Which makes sense, as there are 2 to keep the card on the motherboard and 4 which keep pressure on the heatsink. As the MoBo is the heatsink, it makes sense. But it`s not really MXM. And Asus doesn`t make Graphics cards for Arima, Uniwill or Aopen AFAIK.

    Regarding that link: I know. I wanted to order one and check compatibility but I can`t because I`; neither canadian of US citizen. So, if anyone is interested in ordering one for me? :D
     
  10. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    um

    you need to find an a8jc or a8ja owner becuase they werent sold here and see if that card can fit in his machine.

    The unfortunate thing about that card is that the majority of the a8j's sold had that card the other models are rare. So your potential market is like nothing. Thats why they let that one go for sale to the public....

    But if the 7700 is for sale, there are a large chunk of owners out there who might want one.
     
  11. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    Actually, A`s are sold with 7300 here in Europe, so there`s plenty of potential. But that`s not what I`m after. I`d like to try this card in a `normal` MXM notebook ;)

    I know someone close to Asus. I`ll give that a go.
     
  12. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    oh no Im not hopeful about that at all ice -tea

    If you could fabricate a connector that actually turns it around I could see that.

    Theres two problems with that as well, it probably wont fit anymore and the vbios is likely looking for an a8js.
     
  13. Ice-Tea

    Ice-Tea MXM Guru NBR Reviewer

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    I don`t plan to make a connector. I plan to plug it in like it is and use a copper casing to get the heat to the sink.

    Regarding vBios: just shipped a `normal` x1800 to a Z81s owner. If that works, then there`s a decent chance they haven`t tinkered with the A8 vBios either.