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    well I'm an idiot and screwed

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Jebus Christ, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. Jebus Christ

    Jebus Christ Notebook Guru

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    I accidentally dropped some juice on my g1s and now the keyboard is out of wack. pressing a letter makes a medley of letters appear. I bought this comp about 2 weeks before asus started their accidental warranty so I can't go that route. Anyone know about how much this would cost to get repaired or what options I have?


    I am using the on screen keyboard by the way
     
  2. FatMangosLAWL

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    If it's just the keyboard that's screwed up, you might just want to try changing the keyboard yourself. It's really easy, and you can usually find a replacement keyboard on ebay for about 20-40 bucks.
     
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    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    If the only thing damaged is your keyboard, then you should just be able to browse eBay or Google for a new ASUS G1S keyboard. Someone is bound to have one.

    -J.B.
     
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    please plase plase... turn ur lappy upside down... u dont wat that liquid entering the mobo... and put it in tha sun... a looooong time :)
     
  6. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    ^^^^ What he said, and... Turn it off. now!
     
  7. Jebus Christ

    Jebus Christ Notebook Guru

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    I turned her upside down when the accident happened as well as turned her off. So far while still a bit sticky(lol) it seems all the keys except for p have returned. Hopefully by the time I wake up tomorrow everything will be back to normal. Hopefully.
     
  8. Oldman

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    Very, very scary story, almost like Halloween.
    Do you have accidental warranty in your pocket?

    Please relax, do not panic and take this life as is. You are not alone, you are not the worst, you are not that menace.
     
  9. Sgt. Hollywood

    Sgt. Hollywood Notebook Evangelist

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    Or unplug the laptop, battery too, disconnect the keyboard from the ribbon connection and flush it out with distilled water and wait for it to dry COMPLETELY, then reinstall. Just make sure this is done while its off and away from the laptop.
     
  10. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    ^^^^ What he said. even if you just let it dry on their, I can't imagine juice being a good thing to just let setup on your motherbard.
     
  11. NightWalker

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    This happened to my girlfriend's laptop. I took the keyboard out and threw it in the dishwasher and let it dry for a week. After that it worked perfect again and looked brand new lol. Good luck.
     
  12. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Did you use Cascade lemon fresh?
     
  13. hotweiss

    hotweiss Notebook Consultant

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    Easy to fix, I did that to my keyboard once. Remove the keyboard from the notebook, take apart all the layers of the keyboard, wash them out with water, let them dry, reassemble, and your keyboard is now fixed.
     
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    All good ideas. And as for being an "idiot" or "screwed", you've done something a ton of people have done and it has nothing to do with smart or dumb. Sometimes accidents happen to even the brightest people. For another thing you had the presence of mind to turn the laptop off and flip it over, which can make a world of difference. You also came here to ask for help, which is a sure sign of brilliance. :)

    Hopefully, this experience will heighten your awareness, when you have liquids around the notebook. Knowing that a liquid spill can fry the motherboard and ruin every component in the laptop, just having to clean or replace the keyboard doesn't seem so bad in comparison. So I'd say you're neither an idiot nor screwed. If anything, you're wise and lucky.
     
  15. corruptz0r

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    Its called being clumsy, and it happens to the best of us.
     
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    someone with a macbook spilled milk on thier keyboard.

    he kept it on and never tried anything else and eventually screwed it up
     
  17. E.B.E.

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    I would like to reemphasize that you shouldn't leave the keyboard in the notebook, although by now it may already bee too late if anything has started happening.

    Especially sugary liquids can take a long time to seep inside the components on the motherboard, but that may happen, even after a number of days/weeks during which the notebook is running fine. And that may well ruin the notebook.

    So the removal/cleaning of the keyboard is, I think, a very good advice and should be done.

    As to accidents, yeah, they can happen to anybody.
     
  18. Jebus Christ

    Jebus Christ Notebook Guru

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    Well its the next morning and all the keys are working except for the p. Would flushing it out have any chance of restoring it or should I just take it to a local repair shop?

    *edit* Ok, sorry I am not good with these kinds of things. How do I remove the entire keyboard?
     
  19. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    It's called careless, and at times, we've all been careless.

    If your not sure how to take your laptop apart, and put it back together, you should take today off, and scour the Internet, learning all about it, and than you will have no problem, Plus have extra knowledge when the day is done.
     
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    I wouldn't flush it even with distilled water! The water could easily allow electron transfer if it got mixed in with dust or tiny amounts of other substances inside your laptop!
     
  22. Sgt. Hollywood

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    If it wasn't dry, yes that's a possibility, but the chance of residual conductivity, after drying at low such a low power contact is little to none.
    But of course, all this work is at user's determination.
     
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    I haven't had opportunity to clean laptop keyboard and have some experience with regular keyboards. I cleaned them with cotton puff or paper towel soaked with rubbed alcohol.
     
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    Happened to my Asus a6jm as well. I just turned it off, took the battery out, turned it upside down for like 5min and than waited for about another 15min and used it again. XD

    If it is an internal problem you could consider washing your notebook. There are some guides for that on the internet, you have to disassemle the notebook and wash each part with a bit of washing up liquid (apart from the HD i think...).
    However, usually liquid will condense after a while, so i would just wait for a day. and place it under a red light or just the sun.
     
  25. Jebus Christ

    Jebus Christ Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the guides guys. I opened up the keyboard and cleaned up as much as I could. My p button is still not working and I was wondering whether buying a new keyboard even fix it or is it something else internally that is messed up?

    Still the clean seemed to have helped as the left side of my keyboard no longer seems stuck in and the keyboard now feels like new(in terms of stiffness)

    Thanks for any suggestions.
     
  26. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    You could try looking for a new keyboard on the ASUS eStore, assuming you're in the US.

    I would guess that a new keyboard should fix the problem, I don't think it's an internal issue.
     
  27. Jebus Christ

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    so liquids could short circuit the keyboard itself?
     
  28. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    More likely, the (remains of the) liquid just prevent that specific key from making proper electrical contact when you press it.
     
  29. JoeNewberry

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    I'd say that's the ticket. Since keyboards are usually based on a matrix system, if it actually shorted out a wire then you should lose a large portion of keys at once.

    A replacement keyboard should correct the problem.
     
  30. Asusteve

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    I had the same happen to a Sony Vaio 2 yrs ago. I was doing a girls 21st birthday party mobile disco and the girls father came round to chat to me to do his speechs at 10pm, and then all of a sudden the plug socket power went off (we were in a marquee in his garden), i noticed that the idiot had put his drink on my table and with 2 inchs to spare on the end of the table his half pint of lager was half toppled into my keyboard. the Sony reacted by not turning off, so i ended up pulling the battery out. We then went into his house to try fix, disasemble and dry with hair dryer. however the hair dryer did more damage as it was to hot for the plastic and was starting to slightly melt the plastic so i left it. After putting it back together it still didnt work. It was a good job that i carried 2x Pioneer cdj players and my mate kept the party going, otherwise the party woud have been over when the vaio got damaged. The man in question owned his own bus company and i requested if he had insurance to pay for his accident. He said he hadnt and basically he didnt give a toss as he expected me to claim on my insurance, which i was not prepared to do. If i did that id end up with no ins if someone did have an accident as a matter of my fault.

    Anyway, next day it still didnt work, then the 2nd day it lit up and started to boot. Then it fully loaded, Then i notice the keyboard didnt work, so that night fo the next 5 hours i litterally stripped everything down and took all parts to bits and washed them with neat water as the beer was sugary.
    Water will not damaged a pcb as when boards are manufactured they wash them with water anyway. I put it back together and still a couple of keys didnt work (s & d). I then got a new kb off ebay as theres a place in Leicester near me that recycles computer parts.
    A new keyboard cured my problem all for £20 which was well worth it, and last year i still sold my Sony vaio 4yrs old for £200.

    Keyboards do short out when wet, so get a new one and youll be sorted.
    Also you could use a usb keyboard for now till you get a fix.

    And last but not least, the girl was pretty Peeed that her father had wrecked her 21st birthday party night, as she had a big long request sheet of songs which i only carried on laptop (old stuff).If the idiot had kept his drink in his hand, it wouldnt have happened.

    Lessons were learnt after that night, especially on my behalf. My laptop now sits in a professional laptop flight case, and seperate insurance is in place.
     
  31. Jebus Christ

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    YIPEE! My p key has returned! I think she just needed a little bit of time and maybe that small clean yesterday helped.

    Once again thanks guys. If any future problems arise, I'll end up buying a new keyboard and simply replacing it out.

    Once again thanks.
     
  32. E.B.E.

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    You're welcome. Yeah, the goo probably evaporated enough to allow contact to be made again. :)
     
  33. Jebus Christ

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    Nvm its gone again. I woke up this morning and jumped on my computer and tried to type something and it wasnt working again. The thing is the key itself felt weird. I might take the keyboard out again and see if theres anything up. Im tired of using ctrl+v for all of my ps.

    Ok this is strange. When I pressed the + button this comes up:
    +ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp I stopped it there. Yeah might just be time to buy a new keyboard.
     
  34. Sgt. Hollywood

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    Did you ever end up doing a full flush cleaning, or just a little wipe down?
     
  35. E.B.E.

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    I think a new keyboard is the best bet. 20 dollars on the ASUS eStore, if you can find one for your model.
     
  36. Jebus Christ

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    Little whipe(the p key is back) down. If it keeps going in and out like that, Ill disconnect the keyboard and do a full flush(DI water correct?).
     
  37. Sgt. Hollywood

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    Yup, just let it try for a while before reinstalling. Also before you install you can do a last minute insurance drying with a hair dryer with the no temp setting. I think the "style trigger" with low temp could also work, but keep it away from the keyboard to prevent temp issues.
     
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    It can take a very very long time for electronics to clean out. As long as you never had them in operation while they were wet tho a little spill almost never does permanent damage.

    If you still have some moisture in there that can be shorting out the key and causing intermittent failure.

    Depending on how intricate the keyboard is, it may never dry out completely on its own. I would use more rubbing alcohol than water to clean since it evaporates rather easily.
     
  39. Sgt. Hollywood

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    Alcohol is a good choice for cleaning as it also does help evaporate water. However, it can also remove non-corrosive coatings and lubricants. I'm not sure if the G1's has any dielectric type grease that would be effected.
     
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    Yup, legit and quick. I actually got a KB from them for my DVORAK conversion. Took less than a week if I remember correctly.
     
  42. E.B.E.

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    Yep, that's the official store for ASUS parts. The keyboard looks like it's the right model, too.