what are normal temps for z70va?

Hi I just received my z70va from c9tech (wonderful service btw) and I am beginning to tweak the fan settings, since sometimes it can get a little louder than I want it to be.

I was wondering what normal operating temps would be for the CPU, GPU, HDD, etc.

I'm using SpeedFan 4.27 to monitor temps and adjust fan speeds.

thanks!

 

It is very hard to define the temperature, i would like to depend on the situation of running in the laptop such as sleep mode, and hibernate and so on.
for example: when i'm using it for Internet, the normal temp. at 50~56 C etc.

 

are these temps high? Just using the internet:

CPU: 73
Local: 60
Remote 2: 62
HDO: 45
Temp1: 57

Also Fan 1 is at 2235 RPM and Fan 2 is at 2332 but it shows fan 3 and 4 at 0 RPM.
This is also an asus Z70VA.

 

WHOOOOOOOOOOA yes your cpu temp seems freakin' high as heck, should be ten degrees cooler, with normal operation without lowering the voltage. Remote 2 is your GPU and that seems fine, harddrive always varies, but seems fine as long as it's under 55degrees, from my experience, after heavy gaming, file transfers or coding decoding movies, etc.
Fan 1 is at 2235? dayam, well that's expected with such a high cpu temp, fan 2 is your gpu fan and that seems normal.

My GPU fan seems to have gotten louder, but it's probably just me

My temps are usually 57-63ish depending on load, full load I haven't checked yet. GPU is usually 63ish, while overclocked. This too, I haven't checked on full load, but I haven't noticed a huge change in temps from stock speeds and overclocked speeds of 371.25/364.50.

Cheers,
Mike

 

cpu: 39
local: 45
remote 2: 50
hd0: 40
temp1: 45

cpu fan: 0rpm
gpu fan: 0rpm

my machine has been on for 14h 22min.

although all my fans are off right now. i usually start up speedfan and then set my gpu fan at 29% which makes the fan inaudible (at that point all i can hear is the hard drive. i can't hear clicking, but i can hear it whining which is SUPER QUIET).

so canadian_mofo, i'd say you're running a bit high. for the record, i do undervolt and i have Arctic Silver 5. my gpu also uses powerplay, so when browsing, it uses 1 pci-e lane, turns most circuitry off, and clocks at 105/240 (gpu/mem) and when games kick in, it goes into 420/730 (if i remember correctly... i bascially get 3000 points in 3dmark05).

 

so why are my temps so high then i just turned on my cpu after being off all night and my cpu temp is now 66 local is 51 and remote 55 fan 1 is 1835 and fan 2231 and all ive done so far is start up the internet and go to this site. I dont understand why mine are so much higher then yours i just bought this notebook 3 days ago. Its a asus z70va with a 2.0 processor. Please help. Is my system faulty or do i need to do something to lower these temps?

 

i dont know if this matters but im on AC power right now and running at "super performance" setting. heh wierd when i hit post or back or forward or change web pages at all cpu temp jumps to 73 then back to 68

in case this matters (dunno if these are normal settings i didnt build the system):

+2.5V: 0v
Vcore: 1.33V
+3.3V: 4.3V
+5V: 3.24V
+12V: 0V

 

Your temps are fine. If you 80, then you should worry a bit, but as for Flaxx's readings, I believe he undervolts. So that' results in lower temperature. But As for canadian_mofo, his temps is at max with no undervolting. Mobile processors can withstand very high temps, it should (and will) be fine.

 

If your cpu temperature is too high, just to check the heat sink, and make sure no any dust inside the heat sink and cooling fan. I use Arctic silver 5 thermal compound to put on the cpu so that it will be reduce the temperature a little bit.

 

If the above message cannot help, probably, to add a cooling base can reduce the heat and temperature.

 

well since i bought it from netlink computer and they build it should i take it back to them to fix?? I dunno about opening up the notebook and fiddling with it, shoud i get them too. I have some old arctic silver compound too maybe i could get them to put that on it.

 

are you guys that are saying your temps are around 60 while browsing using dynamic switching like through centrino control. Cause i just instaled that and turned on dynamic switching and my temp dropped from 72ish to 56. So does that mean that my notebook is fine and there is probably no problems with it. I set up to take it into the retailer on monday but if its fine by your guys oppinions i wont bother. Any info please.

 

Flaxx
Yes you know how to tweak it an such. I think your answer should have been that your temps are abnormally low while the posters temps are very normal. You have to keep in mind not everyone knows what you know and any advice you give should be an accepted standard rather then your own ambition. Canadian. There is no posible way your laptop will overheat unless the fan breaks down completely or unless the vendor didnt assemble it right. Asus has not produced units with temp problems ever! The last one was an m6n which was nothing more then a faulty reading. Stop worrying about your temperatures you will drive your self crazy and others in the proccess.

 

Thanks geared =) i appreciate that i was driving myself nuts. Ill let my computer store know that i wont be bringing it in for repairs.

 

Yeah, you're temps seem to be fine. Your CPU was running at max clock speed before. As long as you don't experience stability problems, the only real reason to want to lower temperatures is for less fan noise (heat does plays a factor in life of the electrical components but if they aren't defective they should have no problem outlasting the laptops useful life).

There does seem to be variation with the GPU temps between people. I can't get my GPU temp anywhere close to flaxx's and fan noise from the GPU fan is an annoyance.

 

weird...didn't I say that your temps were normal? hrmm...nevermind...but yes your temps seem fine to me. Oh yeah, even though people report their temps to you, you don't know which cpu they have and what voltages they're running.

I have a 2.00ghz...and holy crap flaxx you're running really low temps...hrmm...I'm gonna pm you about your voltages and such.

Cheers,
Mike

 

yeah. i use a couple tricks to keep my temperatures down all the time. first off, i undervolt the cpu and have arctic silver. as you experience Canadian, you had your CPU running at max. I have a 2.26GHz processor and if I start up Prime95 (which uses 100% of the CPU and forces my dynamic clocking to kick into max mode and run at 2.26GHz) the CPU temperature will jump up much higher! Right now for example, my machine says 47 deg C on GPU and 36 deg C on CPU.... I was playing UT2004 at a LAN party just a couple hours ago and if I look at the speedfan history, I hit a max of 63 deg C on the CPU and 84 deg C on the GPU.

So if you don't underclock and don't use any of the built-in power managment (i.e. speed-step on the CPU and PowerPlay on the GPU) you will easily have your GPU and CPU fan on all the time with temperatures of around 65-69 during idle!

I recently started using Notebook Hardware Control because I overclock my ATI on there (but it's ony enabled if PowerPlay is off or set to "maximum speed" which is the same as being off). So basically, I enable powerplay to max battery (1 pci-e lane, most 3d circuits off, undervolt, underclock memory and gpu) and run speedfan on my gpu at 29% which makes the gpu fan completly inaudible (unless i turned off the hard drive, and as i said before, my harddrive is quiet) but keeps low temperatures (like i said now it's 47 which is pretty good for an x700 ) I get no lag in anything, and even old games could run with this setting! But whenver I start playing a game, i just keystroke to powerplay to max speed, and then NHC overclocks so i get PCI-E 16x, full overclock, full voltage, etc.

That's how I also get over 4 hours of battery life with full screen brightness or almost 5 hours if i dim it to one above the dimmist (the dimmist is just ridiciously dim! sure i get around 5:20 or so, but it's very irritating and probably not good for ones eyes). I also like the fact that i can have a cooler machine.

anyway, i've said enough. g'night ya'll

 

Flaxx i dont know how you are getting those temps without any instability but i would not recommend undervolting to anyone. Normal opperating temps for low load are 60C. This is a widely accepted temp. This applies to every other laptop on the market. There are no long term studies of undervolting and frankly i would not be surprised if it can damage the chipset. Point being is do not underclock unless you cannot live with the heat and fan speed which makes you picky. Its strange but for some odd reason majority of machines we get back for repair have been modiefied in some sort of fashion whther undervolting or upgrades. I use undervolting my self but only on battery. I keep it off when on ac adapter.

 

i get no instability. stability is INCREDIBLY important to me! My machine has run Prime95 for nearly 30 hours and is totaly stable (i ran it at highest speed and lowest speed -- both of which are undervolted). There definitly wouldn't be any long term negative effects if it runs stable. Heat and excess voltage causes stress on a CPU, not the other way around. I also use a 6-step (6x, 8x, 10x, 12x, 14x, 17x) speedstep (instead of the regular 2: 6x, 17x). I could have more steps, but i think it would become redundant and excessive (which could lead to lag). I appreciate a completly silent and cool machine that has excellent battery life; but not at the expense of stability!

 

Flaxx u sure you don't have any other mods other than those you already listed with NHC, and powerplay? Because those temperatures are absolutely incredible.

I use NHC, powerplay, as well as power4gear to get my cpu frequency downto 510mhz, and i idle at around 48C with the cpu fan running at ~1000rpm (35%, inaudible). In addiion, my GPU fan rpm stops being read at 28% in speedfan, but the readings become gibberish at 35% (e.g. 10000rpm at times).

Only after 30min of both fans going 100% do i get temps of min cpu = 38.5, min remote 2 = 44.8. And AS5 too...

p.s. any1 else notice a fan sound still coming from the z70va when you put your ears right up to it, when BOTH fans are supposedly off?

 

Absolutely not... Only way to damage electronic components is by providing too much power.
The circuit may not work to your desired result if underpowering is performed, but no damage will be done.

 

Stevieboy. I can take screenshots if you'd like and show you speedfan temp trends. I'm not doing any mods. I really wouldn't be surprised if most of your high temps are simply due to imperfect seating of the heatsink. It's a skill that most technitions lack in, let alone end users. My CPU fan is NEVER ON. It kicks in on some rare occations when i used intensive CPU usauge for a while or when i'm playing games. Are you sure you've set up dynamic clocking correctly? NHC was wierd cuz it wasn't working properly until i checked "enable custom dynamic clocking". And using powerplay AND NHC is just silly. Using more powermanagement tools does not make your machine cooler; it makes it hotter (since you're wasting cycles on power management instead of HLT commands). Pick one, set it up well, and stick to it.

At 28% it also becomes hard for me to read the RPM. I can get a good reading at around 32% (i can't remember exactly what i got) and based on the trends, i calculated that at 28% (on gpu fan) i'm getting aprox 1000rpm (if fan-mul is left at default).

finally, the extra fan-like sound is probably the hard drive spinning around. When i talk about my GPU fan being inaudible at 28% it's because the spinning of the hard drive is actually louder than the gpu fan. it's sooo quiet though and i can only hear my hard drive in my dead silent room (and yet the drive is still too quiet for me to hear any ticking, unless my ear is just about pressed on my laptop).

 

Hmm...thanks flaxx. I took your advice and disabled powerplay, since i was manually adjusting the GPU clock anyway. But i still need power4gear and nhc to run together if i want the 510mhz clock on battery power, dunno how to do it otherwise.

I'm pretty sure my dynamic switch is set right, cause i have the CPU clock speed showing in my taskbar and i see it step up and down, and idle at 800mhz on idle. Now the question is....how do you seat the heatsink properly? I mean...the cpu doesn't seem to have much room for error, with the 4 screws on the heatsink. Plus, the GPU heatsink is absolutely horrendous and i don't know how to seat it better short of shortening the attaching legs of the heatsink and closing the gap between the chips and the heatsink.

I'm sure everyone would benefit from your expertise

 

well i actually haven't touched the GPU. I did on my z71v and i dropped the temp around 10 degs doing a few tricks. I'm pretty happy with the GPU temperatures of my z70va so i don't evern wanna mess with it. As for CPU, most of the trick is the thermal compound, how you distribute it and put it on the heatsink (i.e. spread it, wipe it on heatsink, and very light, semi-opaque layer on die). i read all my info on websites and then seating dozons upon dozons of cpu's/gpu's i got better at it.

as for the programs, USE POWERPLAY. it undervolts, underclocks, and shuts down components. all power4gear is doing is called throttling. your cpu is running at 800mhz, but it FORCES HLT commands. you're better to not use it and run at full 800mhz. in the long run, throttling doesn't save much power (you're looking at 10-15mins on the outside for a full battery, but this is lost time in productivty). throttling will keep your cpu cooler, but hey, when you're plugged in, u want performance first. i don't throttle, but i do a 6-stage speedstep, and when i need performance, my system kicks into 2.26ghz immediatly. so i keep cool without sacrificng temps.

i do undervolt too. i don't understand why everyone's temp is so high. 47 ish isn't too bad at all. when i do a lot of stuff, mine hovers in the 40's. when i use a tool like prime95 (say a 24 hour tortue test for stability), my cpu can climb as high as 73 deg C! I'd like to do some mods to the heatsink and bring this down, but that would be winter break or summer break. i'm not that concerned about it, it's still well below thermal specification.