It's not the LCD. We already proved that a half dozen times. Appears to be directly X1600 related in some form.
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Geared2play.com Company Representative
No it does not exist in varying ammounts. They are all indistingishable. Replacing the screen will not change anything. Read my posts above. It is the vga card nothing more. It exists in various models from various manufs. ALl have one thing in common.....the x1600 -
usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate
Cats 6.8 do nothing. But I got rid on my desktop grainyness which was most noticable by changing the gamma in ATI Tray Tools to +1.
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Thanks for testing the 6.8's out, did a bios upgrade that didn't do anything either. Very odd that a problem this huge hasn't been addressed at all.
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Did some searching around...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=58604&highlight=graininess
Apparently owners of the Lenovo T60 had the same issue as well. What's interesting is that a revert to an older bios seemed to fix the problem. -
Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant
its on my w3j, so I voted for it
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I got it confirmed from Asus support that it was a problem. Their response "This shouldn't affect normal usage". My F3J couldn't even display RGB values over 236,236,236 (grayscale).
www.tozz.org/asus/asus_crop.jpg <- that's how my screen looked
www.tozz.org/asus/ <- test your screen with that, there should be an easily visible gray box on a white background. -
Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant
bfs this shouldn't affect normal usage, i guess i ned to use my desktop with bigass 21" crt anytime i need to do graphic work,
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Hell, then why not only display blue and white? Not like it wouldn't affect normal useage. You can still type an email which is all anybody would ever do with a notebook, right?
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Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant
ok, it still games and will be able to run cad programs, which is why i bought it
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To support your statement: the VBI Compal HEL-80 uses the same screen, only a different video card. No graininess at all. Nothing wrong with the screen.
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I haven't seen any graininess at all. I have had my z96j for about 2 weeks now.
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Open Microsoft Paint and draw a dark gray or dark blue rectangle and look to see if there appear to be lighter colored freckles on it. If you don't see those, then please get a closeup snapshot of the screen because you'd be the first person to have none.
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That was one of the problem, don't make people to see it (unless they can repair it :>). Let them enjoy theirs screen and be happy.
Now it's deterrent to buy asus laptop, even though almost any X1600 has it, and people who can normally see it are few, unless it's pointed out. Don't get me wrong it should be repaired, not only for S96j but for w3j etc. but we should keep it quiet for the while.
For analogy: There is a very smart boy (but not super genius) in school in some small town, now you can either come and motivate him (you are smart, you can easily get scholarship in MIT) or forcefully shown him that he is super stupid in comparison to staff and students in MIT. -
Keeping it quiet, just so as many of them sell as other laptops with X1600s is counter productive if keeping it quiet also means that the issue won't be fixed. No.. Let's make LOTs of noise, and get other folks with X1600 laptops in on the noise making.
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does this issue exist in other OS environments like linux or MAC OSX?
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I did open paint and splashed my whole screen with the grey and I do notice the graininess. However, I really only notice it when I'm really trying to look for it...I never notice it while I'm playing games, watching movies or viewing images. Hopefully a person at ATI finds a solution to this problem in the near future. We might have this problem, but the Z96Js screen is still a **** fine piece of hardware.
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As far as I've heard, this doesn't appear with Macs with X1600 under the Apple OS, but when they boot to XP it does.
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It can't be an OS problem _if_ it doesn't show up on external displays under the same OS. We need more people to check that.
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VGA BIOS for windows based computers and macbooks may be quite different, so it's hardware error IMO. And I think people said that this graininess (not apple laptops) showed even in BIOS or Linux.
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usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate
Well, I have had it no more for over a month already thanks to the BIOS update!
REMEMBER! It was NEVER the screen on Z96J/S96J or other Asus notebook that caused the grainyness!
It was a problem with the BIOS that has been fixed!
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is the actual BIOS update out yet, or is it still a beta?
who has the s96j graininess problem POLL
Discussion in 'Asus' started by asenna, Jul 22, 2006.