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    why do some flip out over Mac Book Pro?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by marland, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. marland

    marland Notebook Geek

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    are the components the same as everyone else or or they special made for mac. is durability the reason? I mean i could buy a Mac about as easy as a G73 but I would be getting less machine plus spend several hundred more dollars for a mac.
     
  2. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Majority of the components used by MacBook Pro are similar with components found in notebook computer but usually Apple implement it differently. They use their own solution. Obviously, MacBook Pro is not suitable for gaming since not many games build for Mac OS X. It is all depend on the usage. Both MacBook Pro & G73 have their own strength & weakness.
     
  3. marland

    marland Notebook Geek

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    Kizwan i am not a big fan of games but like to try some. what i want is a good quality laptop be it mac or Asus. i just think i get a lot more for my money in a G73 than i do a Mac. do i get this in a gaming computer?
    thanks for your reply
     
  4. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Let me add more point:-
    - MacBook Pro is equipped with premium components
    - better LCD panel
    - HDD with antishock technology (or similar)
    - good battery life - you can switch between Intel HD Graphics & Nvidia GPU. Only one GPU is active in one time.
    - Durable unibody (casing)
    - Mac OS X is more stable & fast compared to windows but this doesn't means it is perfect.

    - G73 is equipped with good quality components
    - The graphic card can play new games on high settings smoothly
    - LCD quality is not very good compared to MacBook Pro or Alienware. Available in 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) OR HD+ (1600x900) Color-Shine (Glare-type)

    So since you are not a big fan of games, I think you'll get more for money if you choose MacBook Pro. There are a couple of games for Mac available at Steam website if you want to try some.
     
  5. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    Antishock technology is almost standard issue in harddrives. The price difference (if you buy a hard drive) is VERY small. Compare the BEKT and BJKT WD Scorpio Black drives.

    Good battery life is achievable in many laptops - apple just uses the more expensive chips that have lower TPW and expensive lithium polymer batteries.

    They also have a really nice screen.

    Now, for many people the important internal components are CPU, GPU and hard drive space. For people who buy apple, they're concerned about components that aren't central to computing, but central to function - like backlit keyboards, and the magsafe breakaway power adaptor.

    So when you buy a Macbook, you get a garbage computer. But you get some frilly addons that are nice - they just don't "add" to the computer. And since apple doesn't push "CPU" power in their computers, and they don't have a lot of games (which would make a computer show it's age!), they hold on to their value well - because the types of people who buy apple don't care about the core internal components.

    That, and people who are devoted to apple products are usually brainwashed.
     
  6. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    I've owned plenty of Apple machines, they are very well designed, and that's what you pay for really, instead of raw power. Unfortunately sometimes they skimp on the chipset and peripherals, I had to dump my last MBP because the firewire controller was broken by design.

    Try to keep on topic with technical discussion, if this turns into apple-bashing and name-calling I'm going to have to close the thread. Thanks in advance. :)
     
  7. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    Hahaha there certainly seems to be a cult following. I'll leave this here: (removed by mod)

    Personally I think macs have really nice hardware. They're definitely overpriced, and you pay for the brand name and the license to join the Apple cult, but the stuff inside the laptop is very nicely engineered for everyday use.

    Sure, a Mac won't be winning any speed contests compared to any PC that's sometimes half the price, but it's still decent hardware with good battery life, and built well.

    I cannot stand OSX though. As an engineer I've had several friends on Macbook (Pros) uninstall OSX completely because it doesn't run the programs we use, or it's a pain in the butt (and lots more money) to get Windows to run. I ended up installing Windows 7 on two of my friend's macs and they love it. One of them got rid of OSX completely.

    I had a coworker at an internship who got a macbook pro and installed Vista on it over OSX with zero problems. He loved being in public/airports and seeing the Apple followers come over and be like "Oh that's a nice Mac you have! What do you OH MY GOD IS THAT VISTA WHAT ARE YOU DOING??"
     
  8. shoe3k

    shoe3k Notebook Consultant

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    Are you comparing the OS X to Windows 98? Tell me how how OS X is more stable and faster than Win7? I'm just curious.
     
  9. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Is is based on my experience.

    Hmmm...I confused why people offended with my analysis. :eek: I'm myself use Windows 7 64bit everyday, doing simulation, etc.

    I like to keep an open mind. I don't know it is a sin to buy a MacBook Pro & use OSX. :D
     
  10. marland

    marland Notebook Geek

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    Its very important to me to know what i am getting when i spend a lot of money for a high end computer. this time around i want the best i can get be IT ASUS or MAC and this is gust part of the research to assure me thats what i am getting.
    Sorry I don't mean to cause any trouble
     
  11. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    It is not your fault. Anyway, I hope you get the best of the best. Make sure it is not because someone told you to. There is plenty of review of MacBook Pro & G73 out there. Just read & decide which one you want. I do not own any Mac computer, ever. My suggestion & analysis based on what you want. That's all. :)
     
  12. MadHouse24

    MadHouse24 Notebook Consultant

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    I think the biggest part is that apple is brilliant at marketing more than anything else...they do build decent machines but just take a look ebay and you'll find out they have more issues than most people think including that uni-shell body.

    I even observe how people are "careful" with their macs like their babies and then scream how durable they are?

    I give them credit where credit is due but they are not what they’ve been build-out to be….although I would take the lcd panel anyday
    ?
     
  13. Kaelang

    Kaelang Requires more Witcher.

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    It's pretty much marketing. You're getting the same components. The processor, the "logicboard" (ala Asus mobo in some cases), the hard drive, the GPU, the RAM, it's all the same. There's nothing "premium" about it. It has a nice screen and some gimmicky features. It's made out of aluminum which is a terrible idea. You can't make the argument that they're any better than any other machine because they have the same problems. They have similar failure rates as other computer manufacturers. In some cases the customer support is very good, but it depends on your local Apple Store. Not to mention they are marked up 35% on average.
    "The best" is subjective and only you can make that determination. From a factual standpoint, it's hard to say what computer is the best as they're all designed differently. A G73 is a powerhouse (see "Tank") and a MBP is a BMW (see "Pointless luxury"). The G73 will crush cars and blow up stuff, but the MBP gives you a leather interior with cherry wood accents.

    Of course, people who have bought a Mac in the past or currently own one will likely disagree (not always, there are some Mac owners that do agree), it's an ego thing. When you start trashing something that you just paid a ridiculous amount for, you diminish its perceived value and you question your logic in the purchase, so any problems you have, you conceal unless it's dire. That's just the way it works (most of the time anyways). In the case of G73 owners and the like, we also pay a lot for our machines. But we get much more out of our machines, and we use this power for games and heavy applications. We expect things to work and we know how computers work, so when something is wrong, we band together, we get angry, we trash talk Asus (all of this can be seen here on NBR). That's the nature of us, something that sets us apart from Apple owners. We don't have some absurd sense of loyalty to Asus because we gave them a stupid amount of money for their product, why should we?
     
  14. shoe3k

    shoe3k Notebook Consultant

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    I was offended in anyway and just curious. I like to keep an open mind too but when people post information with no proof it kind of boggles the mind. You can't expect people to read your post and take your word for it. That is why I was curious to see if you had actual faults comparing the two operating systems. Saying, "from experience" doesn't really help me.
     
  15. strtrcr50

    strtrcr50 Notebook Guru

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    One nice thing about Apple is applecare. Much easier than dealing with asus rma process.
     
  16. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    Ha. The same as everyone else I'm afraid.

    Haha. One of the bigger fanboi lies - They have the same stuff everyone else has. In fact, you can get some really odd display artifacts to crop up under OS X due to the inferior handling (which I'm sure someone will defend as superior).

    Eh?

    Read: Overhyped. No other machine has reviewers trying to eke the absolute maximum out of it (to the extent of taking out Flash from their 'web tests' :rolleyes: ) and claiming it's achievable.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    ROFL. Windows Me? Sure. OS parity has been well and truly achieved, and for some years. In fact, I find that if anything, OS X now lags behind in stability - especially on the glorified home machines laughably marketed as 'Pro'.
     
  17. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    Unfortunately there's just too much emotion involved. I left this thread open for a while hoping it wouldn't cause an issue -- too bad. Thread closed.