30" LCD and Studio XPS 16

I have a studio XPS 16 and a 30" LCD (HP LP3065).

what kind of adapter do i need to buy to get them to work with each other? Do i need to get a displayport --> dual link dvi?

DELL DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter for OptiPlex / Latitude / Alienware Laptops / Precision/ Precision Mobile Workstations : Desktop Accessories | Dell

or will one of the cheap ones work?
DELL DisplayPort to DVI Adapter for Select Dell OptiPlex Desktops / Latitude / Alienware Laptops / Precision Mobile WorkStations : Desktop Accessories | Dell

 

You need a DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter. But I would try looking for alternatives on the market since the Dell one seems a little bit overpriced...
[EDIT] Well these things cost that much as it seems...

 

What does this accomplish? I'm all new to this stuff. Doesn't a regular hdmi cable do the same thing? What's the difference?

 

HDMI would be capable of the resolution his desired monitor supports. But his Monitor does not have any HDMI-ports.

DisplayPort, same as HDMI, supports resolutions up to 3840×2160 (Depending on the standard).
DVI Single Link can even go up to 3840×2400 but only @17Hz. So if you want 2560x1600@60Hz, you need a DVI Dual Link adapter.

 

Ebay is by far the cheapest place to get cables and adapters. You can get HDMI - dual link DVI adapters for less than $2, and I saw a displayport - DVI-D adapter for $20.

The absolute ridiculous prices we see for cables and adapters are due to the days when we had analog video signals and Monster created high performance cables and charged a huge premium for them. They actually did perform better, so people bought them. That caused people to gradually become OK with the idea of paying 1000 times what the cable actually cost.

Now we used digital signals, though. The picture is absolutely not improved even the tiniest fraction by "high performance" cables, as either your device successfully gets the signal or it doesn't. If there's degradation of a digital signal you'll go from getting a picture to not getting a picture, with no real in-between, so if you're getting a picture, it's the best pic you can get and a more expensive cable won't make it better. Suppliers are taking advantage of the analog-super-expensive-Monster-cable-phenomenon, though, and charging an arm and a leg simply because most people don't know any better.

Anyways, to summarize my rant, buy your digital cables off of ebay or elsewhere online where you can get them for a tiny fraction of the hugely overinflated price most retailers cheat you with.

hdmi dual link dvi adapter items - Get great deals on Electronics, Computers Networking items on eBay.com!

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does anyone have a similar setup? i was looking here and it says it supports it over dual link setup. does the hdmi on the dell xps 1645 support the high resolutions?


ATI Mobility Radeon? HD 4600 Series Overview

 

Amazon.com: DVI-D Dual Link Male to HDMI Female Adapter - Adapts DVI to HDMI - Vice Versa: Electronics

im thinking about buying that one. connect hdmi to one side anda dual link dvi to the other. the real question though is still can the hdmi out on the 4670 1gb support those resolutions.

according to wikipedia (lol), it definitely should . List of video connectors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Your Laptop has a HDMI female connector. You need HDMI male to DVI-D Dual Link Female, if you want to connect via DVI-D cable.
If you want to connect via HDMI cable, the one you postet is ok then!

[EDIT] Didn't think about the XPS16 not having a DVI connector. So you must go with hdmi or display port

But I would be interested into why it is more expensive to go from DisplayPort to DVI than from DVI to HDMI? Those DP to DVI Adapters seems to be relatively Big with two connectors on them. Hadn't thought that you needed to do maybe a complex signal conversion? Looks like the expensive one has an additional USB Connector. That could be additional power or sort of software interface. So just pluging a DVI to hdmi adapter into the monitor would be the best solution I think...

 

DisplayPort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wikipedia says that a passive adapter is capable of transmitting single-link hdmi and dvi, but an active one is required for dual-link dvi and hdmi signals. It also mentions Dual-mode DisplayPort and shows the symbol used to denote it which is the DP symbol with two pluses on the left. The symbol by the port on my sxps 16 doesn't have the two pluses. Does that mean it's not dual-mode?

 

I don't believe there is any HDMI port IN or OUT of a Dell product that supports higher than 1920x1200. So use Displayport to dual link DVI.

HP also does not support higher than that resolution on any HDMI input on it's monitors either. So far as most of the market is concerned, HDMI ends at 1920 res.

 

confirmed. hdmi --> dual link dvi does not work.

will have to buy a active adapter. any recommendations?

 

HDMI is a consumer electronics standard brought over to PC's during this HD craze so you can easily hook up your box to your shiny new flat panel. It was not designed in mind for COMPUTERS, and even though the newest revision (1.4) supports 4k resolutions, the current implementation on most PCs is limited to 1080p because thats the max resolutions TVs support. Its very rare that you see someone use HDMI to hook up a COMPUTER monitor. Thats what vga/dvi/displayport is for. Don't believe me? Plug in a 1920x 1200 monitor in with HDMI. You'll get a letterbox 1080p picture. HDMI only supports resolutions based on TV standards and multiples thereof...720p ,1080i/p,1440p, 2160p etc

PS. Displayport still needs an active adapter to dual-link DVI. Its called ++DP, or Dual-Mode DisplayPort




Moral of the story, HDMI blows for PCs

 

I ran an hdmi cable from my sxps 16 to my 1920x 1200 dell 24" monitor with a passive adapter to go hdmi --> dvi and I get a perfect picture. No letterbox/black bars, no scaling. I'm typing this post on the setup right now.

 

Still, Max, you won't go any higher than 1920x1200. Consider yourself lucky you got the 1200 part of that resolution. Many, many HDMI connections can't get that high. Unless you are using it for 1080 connections to home theater, HDMI is worth a pass in most computer connections. Either go DVI or DP.

 

I guess I will have to connect the dots for you..you said it yourself, you used an adapter (passive of not, doesnt matter) and plugged it into the DVI port of your monitor, which support 1200.

I said plug in an HDMI cable, not an hdmi cable with a dvi adapter. If defeats the whole purpose of the point I was trying to make. Let me just repeat it just to be clear. Plug in a NAKED HDMI cable with NO adapters, and you'll get a 1080p letterbox picture. Ok think that clears that up

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HDMI is garbage and supports DRM. Buy a new Blu-ray dvd and try to play it on your laptop off HDMI to an average monitor from the last 2 years. SORRY DONT WORK, DRM DENIED!

 

You are wrong. By your logic I could run a cable from my friggin headphone jack through a dvi converter and get 1920x1200 on my monitor since the dvi port on my monitor supports it!

HDMI CAN support higher than 1920x1080 resolution. Because the HDMI port on my laptop output a 1920x1200 signal to my monitor there is absolute proof! If my monitor had 1920x1200 pixels and an HDMI port, then running an HDMI cable from my laptop to my monitor would give me the full 1920x1200 pixels!

I agree with you, however, that the DRM is a load of crap.

 

You again completely missed my point and in your first statement/paragraph are taking what I said and exaggerating it to the fullest to make a silly point, audio cable producing a video signal? Com on kid..please..we both know whats not what I was saying nor anywhere implied... Lets stay on topic and on point shall we?


Anyway, you're wrong, again. You're basing this off pure assumption because the DVI adapter worked for you. You have no concrete evidence or proof. Notice how you said IF your monitor had an HDMI in, it would run at 1200 with an HDMI? Well how do you know? If it doesn't have the port, you can't speculate, have you ever tried? Cause I have..I have a 2408wfp, monitor in my sig. ANd it DOES have an HDMI port so I don't need to speculate. I can actually test it so I don't make baseless claims like some people...

Oh I just tested it...Looks like I only got a 1080p signal with black letterbox bars from my laptop, HDMI to HDMI, to monitor. Hmm, this result was the reason why I made the statement in the first place, first hand experience, no speculate...

 

Then please explain what a DVI to HDMI adapter DOES to enable the HDMI plug on the laptop putting out 1920x1200? If he is getting x1200 out of his HDMI port, he will get it even if there is no DVI adapter between. Why shouldn't? I don't get it. I would like to have some technical document on the HDMI port in my Dell-Notebook...

If it is HDMI 1.3 (Which I would think, because the standard is from 2006), it is most likely, that its maximum resolution is 1920x1200.

[EDIT] I did some research. Seems like the DVI adapter DOES do something. Our 4670 only supports resolutions up to 1920x1080 via HDMI. See http://www.amd.com/us/products/note...lity-hd-4000/hd-4600/Pages/hd-4600-specs.aspx well, I think that answers my questions...

 

Hi, I just went on AMD's website for the 4600 series' spec's and it says the following:
DisplayPort™ output support
Supports 24- and 30-bit displays at all resolutions up to 2560x1600

So Displayport is the way to go and from the sounds of it and a Dual-Link DVI-D to Displayport active adapter should work but not a passive one? Anyone know of any cheap ones? Anyways, what is the cheapest solution if any to get a 30" external monitor running at 2560x1600 on the Studio XPS 16? Has anyone got it working? I was looking at buying the Dell 3007 but if it is going to be super expensive to get an adapter (because it only has Dual Link DVI-D) then I will just get the Dell 3008 which has Displayport built in. I was hoping to order one today so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

you need to buy an active adapter and those cost at least $100.

better bet is to buy a 3008wfp or something newer like the u2711 which has displayport inputs.

i was the op of this thread and i decided to sell my laptop and get a desktop to use the lcd, lol. not the optimal solution but really dont want to plug two cables everytime i want to use the monitor.

 

Thanks, know of any good adapters or does anyone out there know? Some of them don't sound very reliable. Thanks again.

 

i was looking on ebay and dell and hp's site and basically it looks like its the same adapter , just with different branding.

New Accell UltraAV DisplayPort to DVI Dual-Link Adapter - eBay (item 170488974830 end time Aug-18-10 10:45:18 PDT)
DELL DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter for OptiPlex / Latitude / Alienware Laptops / Precision/ Precision Mobile Workstations : Desktop Accessories | Dell

 

It's impossible for a passive adapter to do anything to the signal. A passive adapter just has wires connecting straight from the pins on one side to the pins on the other side. All it does is in essence change the shape of the plug. The signal is unaltered. Just like a computer power supply cord that has 2 flat blades on one end for plugging into the wall and that trapezoidal thing on the other end for plugging into the computer power supply. It's just copper wires in between.

Therefore that spec sheet must be wrong.

 

I did not say the adapter changes anything on the signal (signals of HDMI and DVI are electrically compatible) and I don't believe the spec sheet of AMD is wrong.

I think it has something to do with DVI itself. HDMI is downwards compatible to DVI. So when you connect your GPU via HDMI to a DVI device, the GPU does not get any specific "HDMI-Signals" (As some HDMI features are not available via such a connection) and handles it as DVI which has a maximum resolution of 1920x1200 on single link.

Makes some sense, I think.

 

I got everything setup on my Studio XPS 16 (1645). I bought a refurbished Dell 3007WFP-HC and am using an Accell UltraAV B087B-002B DisplayPort/DVI-D Dual-Link Adapter and it works perfectly (no flicker, color issues, delays, etc.) except when I logout and leave my computer for extended periods occasionally it will say there was a failure and then all I need to do is unplug the Displayport connection and plug it back in and it works perfectly (ie, 2560x1600 resolution). I am going to check my power settings, etc. because maybe it is just a setting somewhere but maybe it is an issue with the Accell UltraAV.

Dell 30" UltraSharp Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

Amazon.com: Accell UltraAV B087B-002B DisplayPort/DVI-D Dual-Link Adapter (Black): Electronics

 

I'm kind of same ship except I'm trying to use 3007wfp on M17x R2.

Tried dual dvi to hdmi adapter, and did not work - max resolution was 1200x800.

Looks like Im going to have to shell out about $120 for the dell adapter.

 

My setup has been working perfectly. Other than the first couple of days, I have not had any failures connecting to the display. I did have one issue though with the dual-link DVI-D cable I bought from a local Fry's. Occasionally, I would get little glittering pixels on black or dark colors and hestitations moving apps or even just the cursor from one monitor to the other. I had the problem with a 23" Samsung Syncmaster that I was using with the 3007WFP and then with an LG 37" TV that I am now using as my second monitor (hooked up via HDMI). I switched out the Fry's cheapo cable for the following a couple of weeks ago and have not had an issue since...

Amazon.com: Cables Unlimited 10-Feet DVI D M to M Dual Link Cable: Electronics

 

Achilles, page 1 of the thread has some links to Ebay sources for DP to dual link DVI adapters. Any adapter that goes to a dual link DVI will do.

Here is one for $90 but I think on Ebay you may do better:
Amazon.com: Accell B087B-003J UltraAV miniDisplayPort/DVI-D Dual-Link Adapter: Gateway

 

I can output 1920x1200 from the HDMI port on my m1330. It does go through HDMI-DVI cable to the 2405fp monitor but I seriously doubt that there's anything complicated in there. However, with another, HDCP-capable monitor it was limited to 1080 so it seems that if you use an HDCP monitor, HDMI may be limited to 1080 but with non-HDCP monitor, you may get 1200 or higher.

 

I already got one from Dell. Works perfect with 3007wfp.

 

People keep trying to argue with me but they say it themselves and dont realize it when they're doing so.


Read the underlined party. You used an adapter to chance to the DVI port on the monitor...I've said over and over and over again in the posts, HDMI to HDMi. No adapters....Guarantee the next person will post:


"Duurr Im get 1200p from HDMI, but I'm using a dvi adapter!"