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    8600m GT Temps

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Lucanesti, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. Lucanesti

    Lucanesti Notebook Deity

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    Ok.

    Idle for an hour is an average of 61.3c

    World of Warcraft, full settings standing in Exodar outside AH for an hour average temp is 89.2c.

    Are these temps acceptable and safe? I do not overclock, and use the 174.74. I suffer from minor stuttering in WoW when I use skills aswell, which noone seems to be able to relate too.
     
  2. hwa1201

    hwa1201 Notebook Evangelist

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    Just got my XPS today with 8600m GT.
    Haven't instlled any GPU intense games yet.
    But my idle temp is 59c for leaving on for about 2hours with laptop plugged in.
     
  3. Lucanesti

    Lucanesti Notebook Deity

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    Grats on getting the laptop.

    Its so sexy isnt it? Im so in love with it, even if its too hot.
     
  4. hwa1201

    hwa1201 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thx, :)
    I dont think it's that hot.
    I'd said it's WARM :p
     
  5. Warrior1986

    Warrior1986 Notebook Consultant

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    Mine at idle currently sits anywhere between 58-60, which is definitely normal for this system.
     
  6. Easy301

    Easy301 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've noticed WoW seems to get the system pretty hot. During hours of playing my temps average, (for wow) around 81-85c.
     
  7. Lefix

    Lefix Notebook Evangelist

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    Anywhere over 80 degrees for the GPU is dangerous, it could start to mess things up, I play COD4 on mine for about 2 hours and it won't get pass 75
     
  8. Lucanesti

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    Well, im not overclocking, and im using a cooling mat. Using the cooling mat or not I still go above 80 as soon as I tab into WoW

    So what to do?
     
  9. Just Lou

    Just Lou Notebook Evangelist

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    FWIW, I have the DDR2 version, and my temps are in the low 50's when idling. I've never seen my temps higher than the 60's even under full load and overclocking.
     
  10. echao12

    echao12 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Get a Zalman cooler. I got one after my video card died after 5 months (not sure if it was defective or overheated)
    With the cooler, my peak temps are (on high performance setting):

    CPU idle: 40
    GPU idle: 52

    CPU gaming: 63
    GPU gaming: 71

    Overall it lowered my temps about 10 degrees
     
  11. owais

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    90c isnt too help, quite a few people will hit that gaming, but i wouldnt exepct it from WoW with those graphics, lol

    anyway, graphics cards can go up to 150c, but 90c and under, especially while gaming, you shouldnt worry too much about.

    does WoW take alot of graphics? and other things? if it does and your on max res,setting etc. try to lower them a bit to put less stress on the gpu if you really dont like the gpu at them temp.

    although from what iv seen of WoW, those graphics are crap. maybe because you play on large worlds and stuff, that its got lots to render.

    if your playin on really high settings, that may cause it too be that high, dont worry about those temps and if you dont like it that high, lower settings.

    btw, i cant find any decent coolers for the m1530, they all seem crap.
     
  12. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    I've seen several posts saying the same thing. I don't play games and my gpu hits in the 60's sometimes 70's. So I wouldn't worry about your temps. :)
     
  13. Lucanesti

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    Well, after downloading these weird drivers off of guru3d.com. Some NGO drivers or something. My idle has been at 38-42c for an hour now with no laptop cooler sitting on glass in a 72-74f room.

    However gaming is another story. After 30 minutes of WoW I peaked at 94c. This is with the fan blowing like a banshee and what I would think is a pretty good blowing laptop cooler that sucks alot of air from the top and throws it out the back.
     
  14. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Regardless of what you think.

    A GPU temp that exceeds 90C degrees is NOT healthy... thats the danger temp that GPU is programmed (low-level) to start downclocking to cool itself down to prevent overheating damage.

    A GPU exceeding 100C degrees will shutdown your system.

    Make sure you clean on the vents with compressed air once every two months.

    And always use the system on a hard, flat, clean surface.... recommend a good notebook cooler (like Zalman ZM-NC1000/NC2000).

    Do not use the notebook on a lap, couch, or other soft surfaces... because you will be block the airflow intake from the bottom fans.
     
  15. DaxE

    DaxE Newbie

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    My temps get up to 90 also with heavy gaming. It does not matter if I oc or not...still will run up to 90. I would like to see some more temps from people while heavy gaming.
     
  16. owais

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    why would you need to buy compressed air to clean your vents, it should be ok without that. compressed air isnt that cheap and its not needed, vents dont usually clogh up fast, i aint thoushed my pc in over 4 years and its perfect after lots of games.

    if you wanted that many games on really high settings and needed to buy coolers, why not get a pc?
     
  17. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    90C is a danger zone. 150c is misinformation. No GPU can work safely while going at 100C+ for long periods of time.
    PCs are not laptops. If you don`t want to take care of your laptop by cleaning the vents because you consider it too expensive, it`s your problem. But don`t advertise it as a good idea.
     
  18. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    VERY BAD INFORMATION!!! :eek:
    Completely false. Ignore this advice!

    Canned air is NOT expensive. If you can afford a XPS, you can afford cheap canned air!

    A PC Desktop is completely different from a laptop as it has more room for airflow and even that should be cleaned out with canned air from time to time.
     
  19. mattocs

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    Haha. A small can of air is $5. Sure, for air, it is expensive...but that can will last you a year or so if you don't play with it.

    Get some air. Blow out the vents. Spend the $5.
     
  20. Gophn

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    Wow... you must be new.

    I think you are a bit mistaken and confused.

    Compressed air is probably the best friend for a gaming/performance notebook. You can get an air can, or get a 1-2 gallon air compressor.

    Let me give you my famous Copy-Paste :D

    If you are overheating... usually any temp over 90C degrees is bad.

    when was the last time that you cleaned out the fans and vents thoroughly...?

    if never, then thats why.

    1) remove battery
    2) remove/unscrew the panels on the bottom of the notebook to get to fans and vents (if possible)
    3) use flashlight to look through vents for the dust (if you cant see the light on the other end, then the vents are clogged up)
    4) go outside, get some compressed air (cans or compressor @ 50 PSI) and give the vents a good airing out all directions ( concentrating on the vents)
    .... you might want to brace the fan blade(s) when airing it out (with a toothpick or paperclip to prevent it from spinning out too much)
    .... or use short bursts (1-2 secs) of air instead of bracing the fans.
    5) go get some Q-tips and swab the fan blades and the area around it
    6) then go do a second airing with compressed air (all directions again focusing on the fans and vents) to push out the dust that was dislodged from the Q-tips

    7*) Now go use the flashlight again and look through the vents (shine the flashlight from the fan, you look through the other end) for anymore dust clogs.

    8) Then start up the notebook... and let the fans cycle up (use the Fan Toggle at max speed if your system has it) to push out any other dust that might have been stuck.

    If all goes well you should be able to close up the notebook and...

    you're done.

    *repeat this step until its cleaned out.

    Thats pretty much it. :)

    Just make sure to do this every two-three months... it should take about 15-20min per cleaning if you want to be thorough.

    ________________________

    Gaming notebooks are a new thing, you must realize that you have to take some extra care of them over typical use notebooks:

    1) Battery: to maintain the longevity of any rechargeable battery
    - you must NEVER overcharge it [especially for long durations of time] by keeping it plugged into AC
    - when it reaches 100% you should unplug it and let it discharge to 5-15%, then plug it back to power
    - OR you can just charge it to 50%+ and remove the battery and store in cool place.. not the fridge [remember to use it occasionally 3-4 time a year to charge and discharge it].

    2.) Heat: to prevent a healthy notebook from overheating
    - ALWAYS use the notebook on a clean, hard & flat surface
    - RECOMMENDED to be used on a notebook cooler... namely the Zalman ZM-NC1000 or ZM-NC2000
    - check your fans underneath occasionally (at least once a month or two) for any dust clogs [clean them out with Q-tips and air cans/compressors]
    - ALWAYS monitor the temps (CPU, GPU, HDD, etc..) to watch for fluctuations, which would indicate overheating by dust usually
    (for Clevo notebooks) use the Fan Toggle to switch all fans to Max Speed when gaming and such.

    By doing these simple things, your entire system will easily last for more than 3 years.
     
  21. jfdube

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    How do you guys blow out the vents??? On the 1530, the is one exhaust vent on the rear, and the air intake on the bottom. What do you guys do? Shoot air in the intake? In the exhaust? disassemble the whole notebook??

    If you just blow air INTO the notebook, that wont do anything. Your just moving air and dust around, and risk damaging parts in the process. So, unless you disassemble the whole thing, i don't see how you can "blow out the vents".

    As for the instructions posted above, although instructive, for which model notebook do they refer too?
     
  22. Gophn

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    shoot the air in both directions.

    all directions if possible. :)

    there is not risk to damaging parts with air.... because its air.

    you might want to brace the fan with a toothpick if you do not want it to overspin.

    thats pretty much it.

    "Take care of your notebook, and it will take care of you." - Gophn
     
  23. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    This should answer your question. ;)

     
  24. jfdube

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    I did read the post. I was asking people from this thread, including you, who are all advocating the "blow out the vents" technique, how you personally go about doing it.
     
  25. eleron911

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    As Gophn said , both ways(from the inside and from the outside).
    I`ll post pics of my dust cleanup if you want.
     
  26. jfdube

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    That would certainly be very helpful, if you could do that. What kind of notebook do you have?
     
  27. eleron911

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    Well, mine`s a different model,it`s a Clevo.
    But I`ll post pics of where you should blow out the air and how to clean the fans.
     
  28. tdf

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    Hmm back to the original topic of this thread...

    The OP has had his laptop for less than a month and unless he keeps his laptop in a dusty attic, I doubt it could've clogged up the vents this fast. The temperatures however do seem unreasonably high and you should probably contact Dell about this. I've just checked mine and while playing Mass Effect and GPU temp doesn't rise above 75C.
     
  29. Warrior1986

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    This seems like a good place to put this.

    Caveat Emperor on the Zalman notebook coolers, at least the NC2000. I just got mine from Newegg today and I've done some testing on my m1530. At the VERY BEST, it only lowered temperature about 3-4 degrees Celsius at load while running 3DMark06. And when I ran ORTHOS for just the CPU, the difference was even less, barely a 2 degree difference. And I even had the notebook sitting lower so that it was feeding the supposed cool air directly into the air intake underneath the notebook.

    I'm upset to say the least and plan to return this thing. For 10 bucks it might be worth it to drop your temps a few degrees, but for almost 60 bucks it's a total ripoff.
     
  30. halkyon

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    Agreed - anything above higher than around 75-80 C doesn't seem normal. In my experiences with gaming, I've never seen the GPU get any higher than 80 C - even playing demanding games like Crysis for long periods with OC on high clocks.
     
  31. owais

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    wouldnt the compressed air damage your components if if where hit hit them at high pressure?
    also, wouldnt it just spread the dirt around the laptop?

    and do i need to unscrew/remove the bottom of the m1530 to get to the fans/vents to clean them or can i just spray at the vent holes at the bottom of the laptop?

    also, is it really needed?

    is having a cooler any use any many people say it dosent cool anything more then 3-5c.
     
  32. Gophn

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    no the compressed air will not damage the components.... especially if the air is from a can.

    If you are using a high power air compressor (w/ tank) set the PSI to around 50... then you are good to go.

    It would be best to remove the panels to get to the dust better, but its not required... just make sure to give a good airing in all directions through the vents.