8800m SLI vs. 555m

Looking at going to the XPS 17 with the 555m.

How will that compare to my current XPS M1730 with 8800 SLI?

Thanks

 

The 8800 SLI should smoke the GT555M by a good 10-20% (maybe more depending on scaling).

But with a little overclocking you shouldn't have any problem making up the difference.

(Based on benchmarks on Notebookcheck)

 

Your existing graphics are probably more powerful. I would guess each 8800 is probably a little more powerful than one 555m and then you have two of them. Bear in mind that the 555 will have better power consumption/heat output (the M1730 fans are pretty damn manly though, they can handle it) and will have DX11 etc.

 

Crap well I guess its time to check out sager with the 485

 

8800m gtx/9800m gt are much much faster than a single 555gt.
They should be 5-10% slower than a base gtx460m, real case scenario.
9800m gtx on the other hand is the same as gtx260m (only the core is bigger and its the same as desktop 8800gt) so two of them like i have are faster than a base gtx460m due to increased cuda cores (112x2=224 shaders).
Plus althought they use ddr3 its partly helped by 256bit bandwidth.
Hell these cards can run Crysis 2 with no tweaks in extreme @ 1200p while having 30-42 fps.

 

9800M GTX = 4k Vantage GPU / 8k Vantage GPU in SLI (no overclock)

Depending on the 555M you have, scores can vary. For example, the Dell supplied 555M (144 shaders, DDR3, 192-bit bus) = 5k Vantage GPU, This is at stock with no overclock (and the 555's overclock nicely).

If you have the 8800gtx, it is ~15% slower than the 9800M GTX (96 shaders vs. 112 in the 9800m gtx) so you're looking at ~3500/7000.

Depending on the game's SLI capability and scaling, in some instances the 555M WILL be faster than your 8800M GTX SLI setup. In other instances, the 8800M GTX SLI will be faster. In all cases of single/non-SLI 8800M GTX vs. the 555M, the 555M is faster.

 

I would go for a minimum GTX 460M, any other cards out there will be slower than your current setup.
An M17x R3 with this card should not be much more expensive than XPS 17.

 

going with sager and the 485 the m17x with 460 is to old for future proofing

 

I would at least go for a 260M which still smokes a GT555M, but many laptops in the price range of the XPS 17 will have the 460M which absolutely slaughter the GT555M.

 

I hate to beat a dead horse, but I am replacing my Gateway FX with a XPS 17. Both systems are in my sig... Since I have the 8800M GTS now, how will that compare with the 3GB 555M?

Comparing my current to my XPS and taking in to consideration processor, ram and everything else, which will be a quicker system when it comes to games?

 

Hi. If any question occurs regarding to mobile gpu's and it's power I always checking this page to see the overall picture. It helps to see the difference in performance and gpu class. Honestly to say I don't think you will notice a huge difference in gpu performance, since both these cards are standing quite close one to other.

 

Definitely the 555. In terms of synthetics you're current overclocked gateway gets 7550 in 06, whereas the 555 gets anywhere from 9800-10700 at stock clocks, plus it overclocks like a beast. Real world game results will probably be closer, but the Sandy Bridge CPU also affects game performance more than you may be expecting.

So the L702X in the absolute worst case could be about the same, but more than likely will be significantly faster.

 

The way i look at upgrades is if you can't go to the same enthusiast level as the first card was on then stay away. You won't be wowed. If the WOW factor isn't there then don't bother.

Right now im on the 5730 oc for me to upgrade i would need to get a 6870 to be wowed.

 

For the price of the XPS 17 and all the goodies, you could buy a G73-JH or SW with a 460M and that absolutely slaughters a 555M, and you get ASUS' reversed engineering MXM, so likely you can go to another ASUS MXM in the future..

 

After asking this question, I'm wondering if I should send this laptop back and pick up something else.

 

Come on GuyZ!
You got 555 with 3D... How come you forget that!... Also it support DirectX11 and too has Shader 5.0 so always Speed does not matter... Even celeron processor comes with 3.0Ghz speed with 2 threads but it cannot be compared to Pentium with 2 threads 2.0 Ghz too... My this comment goes for as far as comparision too 8800MGTX or 9800MGTX with 555M ... This is point too be taken... Also 555M has memory speed of 900MHz as compared to 800Mhz of 8800MGTX or 9800MGTX and has memory of 3GB too as compared to 512MB(8800) or 1GB(9800)...
I think 555MGT will rock... Still i feel that 555M will give atleast Neck to neck competition but not lower...No doubt final comparision can only be done if some one has fps comparision of games... in Crysis 1/2 or ACB like games...

Regards!

 

Mate I'm sure that the people's who said that 9800m gt/8800 sli smoke out the gt555 have their reasons, because with data at the hand it shows clearly that the gt555 is still a medium range card.
About the 3gb...does it even matter? Nope it doesn't.

First of all, the gt555m isn't a card meant to play games at resolutions higher than 1080p, therefore the 3gb is wasted and unuseful.
The VRAM in a gpu is used to render content based on the settings; the more higher the resolution, the more VRAM.
As an example on my xps m1730 with two 9800m gtx the far I gone at 1920x1200p in terms of VRAM usage is 980mb on both cards while retaining max details and framerates above 35-40fps.

Now about real life comparisons, please forget about synthic benchmarks such 3dmark06. Because 3dmark06 sums the score based on the CPU performance so it's unfair as the m1730 is still a dual core.

However we can compare gaming benchmarks at same details/resolution.
As an example we can compare Crysis 2 at gt555m native res (which should be 1368x768 or something like that) with a single gtx8800/9800 or even better with a 9800m gtx.
An overclocked sli 9800m gtx does around 45-55 fps of average at 900p in Extreme settings with no tweaks.
At 1200p it delivers 35-40 fps at the same settings.
Hardly the gt555m can do better than that: afaik it can deliver 26-30 fps at 768p using medium settings (very high) so the comparison is not even.

Also let's talk about memory bus width. The 8800/9800m gt/gtx still uses a 256bit memory bus althought it's only gddr3.
The gt555m comes in two flavours: 128bit ddr3 and 192bit ddr5.
The latter since it has a better bus bandwidth it's comparable in performance to the 88xx/98xx series.
The sharer count is obviously higher as it uses a fermi core but that isnt really a major groud breaking advantage: current nvidia architecture uses at max 200 shaders even for Physx calculations.
Two 9800m gtx have 112x2=224 shaders working together as they are unified and not on a separate pipeline, threfore the usage and performance really depends on the sli scaling or driver optimization.

As for the clocks, both generations oc very well, being almost 150mhz more on both shaders/core and memory, so having them oced really helps alot.

The downside in this comparison is the dx version support.
The g92/g94b core uses dx10/pixel shader 3, while gt555m uses dx11/ps5.
It's important to say that the gt555m although dx11 compatible doesn't have enough power to max out a dx11 game as already observed in some benchmarks, but it can deliver 30fps at 768p with a mixture of medium/low, sometimes high settings.

So as long as the comparison goes I'm available to give some games a go at same res/settings/dx with my xps to compare with a gt555m.

Sorry for the long post.
PS: if someone wants to do a 3dmark06 run, remember that only default values are accepted, so the res should be 1280x1024. Also if you want to keep out the CPU score, you need to keep track only of sm2/3 graphic score.

As in games the sandy bridge i7 really helps but still is bottlenecked by the gt555m medium specs.
On the xps the same happens as only dual cores are available, although having an x9000 running at least at 3,6ghz basically cuts the bottleneck in half.

 

@Kingpinzero
I do not say i completely do not agree to your point but still answer can only be answered by the people who have actually purchased New XPS17 and can give us actaul FPS... Also i think instruction set in new 555mGT will matter there got to have some advance instruction set which can get the job done faster... Still the I have XPSM1730 with 9800MGTX SLI(2GB) and i can raun all games like ACB, Crysis2,etc without any gliches and get FPS well above mostly 30FPS with all max settings ON...
Precise FPS is given below... If anyone has New XPS17 they can give thier FPS so we can get answer to our questions...

Sr no. Game Resolution FPS wit h max settings all ON

1 ACBSP 1440*900 30 mostly lowest 25
2 ACBSP 1920*1200 20mostly to 30 lowest 18
3 Crysis 2 1920*1200 40mostly and more upto 60 lowest 25
4 GTA IV 1440*900 Mostly 25 lowest 16
5 GTA IV 1900*1200 same as above(i don't know how?)
6 ACII 1440*900 Mostly 40(far Distance) to 60(close distance) lowest 25
7 ACII 1920*1200 Mostly 30(far Distance) to 60(close distance) lowest 22
8 ACBMP 1920*1200 30 Mostly lowest 25
9 ACBMP 1440*900 60 mostly lowest 30
10 3DMark06 Score 13121 3DMarks (basic Settings with 1440*900 resolution)

My PC Specs tested above FPS:
Dell XPS M1730
CPU: X9000
OS: Win XP 32Bit
RAM: 3GB
GPU: 9800MGTX 1GB each in SLI mode (2GB)
HDD: Samsung 128GB SSD
Display: 1920*1200 resolution LCD

Hope this helps...Deeply awaiitng any New XPS 17 User FPS details...

Regards!
[P.S: FPS measured by FRAPS show fps, record video game movies, screen capture software software]

 

My FPS in those games are higher, but thats a problem related to drivers/optimizations/tweaks/Oses.
They are mostly correct.
What speed is your cpu set?
Also about GTA4, thats a cpu bottleneck. Doesnt matter settings or Res, its a bad port, and it requires a quad core.
Im able to max EFLC on my desktop (check sig) and i struggle to achieve 55fps, mostly in the 45.

 

My CPU is set to 3.4Ghz from Bios...

 

Guys,
Also overclocking 555m is giving great results... See this thread...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/566206-overclocking-gt-555m-card.html

Regards!

 

Still gotta try overclocking mine. Need to repaste first though, CPU hits 95c after 10 minutes of BFBC2