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    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 vs 5730

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by BlueChan, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. BlueChan

    BlueChan Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just found out that my brand new Studio XPS 16 which I order just under 2 weeks ago is already obsolete. Well I'm being a little over dramatic but the 5730 is now available for the Studio XPS 16 here in Australia. Where I had ordered it with the 5650. So I had to go and see what the differences were. On paper it appears there aren't any differences:

    ATI Mobility Radeon? HD 5650 GPU Specifications

    ATI Mobility Radeon? HD 5730 GPU Specifications

    Check out the "Speed and Feeds".

    It appears that the 5650 has variable speed and lower power consumption. Am I missing anything?
     
    BlueChan, Jun 11, 2010
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  2. bsknudsen

    bsknudsen Notebook Enthusiast

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    As far as i can see, the 5730 has double the memory data rate as the 5650. 3,2 Gbps vs 1,6 Gbps. I dont know how big a difference it makes though.

    I wonder how the 5650 is clocked in the XPS16?
     
    bsknudsen, Jun 11, 2010
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  3. Fusel Wusel

    Fusel Wusel Notebook Consultant

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    The 5730 is technically identical to the 5650. It just has higher clock rates and though more power consumption while being a little bit faster.
    I think the variable speed at the 5650 only means that the manufacturers can decide which clock rate they want to have ;)
    The 5730 is _NOT_ based on the 57xx desktop series!
     
    Fusel Wusel, Jun 11, 2010
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  4. Silverstreak98

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    Yep, don't worry the 5730 is only marginally better then the 5650, definitely nothing to lose sleep over.
     
    Silverstreak98, Jun 11, 2010
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  5. The Guru

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    Here in India my order has been automatically switched to the ATI 5730 :)
     
    The Guru, Jun 11, 2010
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  6. bsknudsen

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    If they are nearly identical, will you be able to use some sort of software to increase the clocks of the 5650 to make it perform as the 5730?

    Any input on the differences in memory data rate? (See #2)
     
    bsknudsen, Jun 11, 2010
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  7. Fusel Wusel

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    They both have 128bit memory bus with 800MHz memory clock speed. Both With DDR3 and Memory bandwidth: 25.6 GB/sec . I think it is a faulty statement...
     
    Fusel Wusel, Jun 11, 2010
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  8. reas_seammes

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    WOW, I wonder if you could you provide me with the details of your purchase. please..

    As far a performance is concerned, checking out some videos on youtube 5730 seems just a bit better than the 5650.

    and congrats for the purchase!
     
    reas_seammes, Jun 11, 2010
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  9. saif_khan33

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    hey bro on exactly which date did u order .... plzzzz man i ordered mine on 4th june :( with 5650
     
    saif_khan33, Jun 11, 2010
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  10. bipul_fx

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    I guess it would be upgraded too coz now if you check dell india site only 5730 gpu is available and not 5650.
     
    bipul_fx, Jun 11, 2010
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  11. Dinkleburg

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    Sigh

    If only there was a way for us 4670 owners to get our hands on the 5730. :rolleyes:
     
    Dinkleburg, Jun 11, 2010
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    From what I understand, the upgrade isn't that great, nowhere near the difference in the upgrade from the 3670 to the 4670 was. A slight performance increase but not astounding. And although there's DX11 support, it's debatable how useful that actually is because activating DX11 effects like tessellation will most probably hit the performance too much on a mid range notebook chipset that current games push to its limits, let alone future, DX11 heavy ones.

    I'd say it's worth having if you're ordering a new system, but not worth worrying about too much if you have a 4670 system.
     
    MuTron, Jun 11, 2010
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  13. cbaty08

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    Biggest upgrade is it's power draw......
     
    cbaty08, Jun 11, 2010
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  14. Dinkleburg

    Dinkleburg Notebook Consultant

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    The power consumption of the 5730 is almost half of the 4670. Less heat. better battery life. :)
     
    Dinkleburg, Jun 12, 2010
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  15. bipul_fx

    bipul_fx Notebook Evangelist

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    According to notebookcheck.net. Here is the performance graph...
     

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  16. the_scotsman

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    Oh FFS....I only just had my replacement organised a few weeks ago and will be receving it next week...with the 5650....and now it has been replaced with the 5730 on the website...I missed out by a week :mad:
     
    the_scotsman, Jun 12, 2010
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    Well, just my two cents but I find my overclocked 4670 works great on all thee latest games on somewhat pretty high settings. When I am on battery and want to max my battery life, I bring the clock of the GPU lower. I am getting a little over two hours which isn't too bad. The 4670 is a nice chip, I am not jealous of the 5730 chip. :)
     
    killaz05, Jun 12, 2010
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    I thought the 4670 was like 35W TDP?
     
    PlasmaBomb, Jun 12, 2010
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    Hey guys I'm trying to track down the clock speed on the 5650 in the Studio 17 to compare it to the 5730 in the XPS 16. Anyone know what Dell set the 5650 to?

    nevermind, found it. 550/800 core/mem
     
    Iceman82, Jun 15, 2010
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  20. the_scotsman

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    Well, just received my replacement laptop, which was listed as having the 5650, but to my surpise has the 5730 instead ;)
     
    the_scotsman, Jun 16, 2010
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  21. cbaty08

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    Awesome! Are you going to test for throttling?
     
    cbaty08, Jun 16, 2010
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  22. bipul_fx

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    Someone please help me guys :(

    I needed the part# for The M/B and Heatsink of the new Ati5730.

    This is what I have:
    Y517R : ASSY,BASE,DISCRT,M96,1645
    RVK8X : ASSY,HTSNK,NBK,DISCRT,1645x
     
    bipul_fx, Jun 16, 2010
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  23. BlueChan

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    Is anyone else getting the 5730 instead of their ordered GPU? I'm still waiting for my laptop to be delivered. They originally scheduled deliver for this Tuesday (15 June) but it's now been delayed and I'm still waiting to be told when it's going to be delivered. It's been stuck in "Arrive in Australia" for the last 4 days. I've been emailing my sales rep and the delivery company but they keep saying they'll get back to me. :'(
    Perhaps I'm being too impatient?
     
    BlueChan, Jun 17, 2010
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