All NVIDIA 8400M / 8600M chips faulty??

Was just reading on engadget and this article just got updated.
It's just a rumor but,so does it mean that all dell laptops with m8400/m8600 have faulty
chips except the studio series? So maybe one of the reason studio doesnt have nvidia chip
could be it?
Links for the article below:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/all-nvidia-8400m-8600m-chips-faulty/#comments

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=270732

 

oops, sorry.
Didnt know the topic has been created.
This topic can be closed~~!!

 

FWIW, the original source (theinquirer) is an anti-NVIDIA site.

 

I'm wondering what will happen. Class-action lawsuit? Free upgrades to the 9xxx series?

 

I am hoping for a free upgrade. Even with if we some cash back, what good is a laptop that doesn't work that you obviously paid much more than the little cash you get back for buying a damaged product.

 

Can the 9xxx series even fit on our laptops?

I really, really don't want to be stuck with a defective chip.

 

Nothing. But if there really was a class action lawsuit and NVidia lost, we could all expect a check for $1.09 sometime in 2011.

The lawyers of course would net millions.

 

What do you mean Nothing?

I ordered a laptop and there was nothing that said that my chip was going to be faulty.

 

If your notebook burns up, then they'll repair it or replace it as per the warranty. What I'm saying is that no one should expect any sort of mass compensation or adjustment in the absence of an actual failure.

 

True, but Nvidia did make an announcement about defective cards on July 2nd so it's not like he made stuff up. If only Dell would make an official announcement to bring us out of the dark.

 

Where did he get that "All Nvidia G84 and G86s are bad"?

 

engagdget, gizmodo ( http://gizmodo.com/5023963/inquirer...-card-with-g84-or-g86-chipset-is-ready-to-die)

anyways, i just ordered a m1330 with 8400 (really want a graphics card).... with a 4 yr warranty and accidental damage..... hopefully they'll give me a free upgrade to montevina if my laptop craps out and i point to the increasing number of problems with 8400 cards......

 

I would agree.

Can you imagine what would happen if Dell announced that all 84 and 86 cards were faulty?

I don't think that their service providers could even handle that mess in replacing all of those cards. They will wait for them to fail and then deal with it.

 

Not just Dell. Those cards are/were used in lots of popular models, including the MBP. If it really turns out that those cards are faulty acrosss the board (and that's a big if) then I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of class-action suit down the road. It happened with iPod batteries a few years ago.

But no one ever gets anything much from a class action suit. I was kidding about the $1.09 earlier (that was how much Navin Johnson (Steve Martin) had to pay each customer after his Opti-Grab invention made everyone cross-eyed in The Jerk) but settlements usually pretty small by the time the they get down to the individual. I think I got $10 from the Apple Store as a result of the iPod battery suit.

 

From the link: "The Inquirer is reporting"

 

There was a class action on the Inspiron 5100 series for overheating and the defective AC plug. People are still having problems with them.

The only thing that owners got out of it was a one-year extension of the warranty.

You are right, the only ones to benefit from class action lawsuits are the lawyers.

It would be nice to see companies become more pro-active in dealing with defective parts, but it is a business decision. It is much less expensive to take care of the problems after they occur than to take care of them on the front side--even taking into consideration the litigation costs.

 

Yeah I had the overheating problem as well with my Inspiron 5150. I'm curious though,what was the problem with the AC plug?

 

I'd only expect to see Dell extend your warranty on all parts. The heat from the GPU going nuclear won't just affect the life of your GPU.

If it starts to become unusable to the extent that it could burn/scold you however, then, there's a grey area. Because they've sold you something that's dangerous. It may not be their fault but as far as a consumer is concerned their contact/contract is with Dell.

Remember the battery recall?

What are 'safe temps' for notebooks? There will likely be a threshold for the parts, and a threshold for the operator. Sans overclocking obviously which is taking it to extremes.

 

m1330 has a known problem with cooling..... a bad (or bad heat-distributing) GPU would compound this problem

if u read the whole article, nvidia only announced certain batches of defective cards, not ALL

 

I'd want to see a third party investigation into the matter prior to changing my opinion that it's a good spin on a bad day at the office.

What batches? What cards? What serial numbers and to which vendors?

Since not all of the cards are built equally and don't all share parts from the same process there must be a pretty vast swath of atleast a line of them sterilising semen wouldn't you think?