Any rumbles on a XPS 13 refresh?

Yup and i get about 3 hours and 15 mins with the 9400mg and a P8700 only a six cell on a nine cell maybe 7-8 but if they release one up to our expectations we could just change the motherboard right?

 

i7 620M would be nice - kinda like dream come true.

Any guess on GPU?

 

I agree for the most part regarding them not offering ULV Core i7's but I see it as being more likely than them going with a Core i3 as standard. I'd guess they may go with low voltage options as they went with P series Core 2 Duos over those of the T series though I suppose Dell had Hybrid SLI to worry about at the time.

 

I'm due for a new lappy quite soon and would really like to stick with Dell (currently have an xps m1330). A refresh with an i5/i7 with one of the ATI 5xxxx series would be ideal!

Some of the alternatives such as the new Sony Z are becoming very tempting...

 

Vaio Z becoming tempting...indeed it does specs-wise, price-wise it will definately be horror (starting at 1800 USD I believe)

 

As much as I am horrified at the prospect of paying in excess of $2k for a 13" laptop, those of us that need GPU power, CPU power and true portability are left with few options. There are also concerns about the SSD offered in the Z. I just don't see any comparable alternatives.

The Asus UL30JT has been reported to contain an anemic Geforce 310M. There is nothing on the horizon from Acer or MSI. LG has discontinued its P310 rather than updating it. What we are left with is the frighteningly expensive Sony Z. The Studio XPS 133(5) might be a perfect solution if it comes with an I5/330M GT (or ATI equlivent) but Dell remains quiet on a refresh of its flagship 13".

If CeBit comes and goes with no additional information being released, I think more than a few will bite the bullet and buy the Z.

Bronsky

 

It doesn't matter to me what hardware the new xps 13 will offer, as long as it will have better cooling. I've been looking for a new 11-13 inch laptop for a while now and if they would release a new one I would seriously interested.

I was thinking of the sony s aswell but their screens seem to be worse and there are no seperate gpu's for that model at the moment. Since the sony Z is out of my price range, and apple is not my thing, i'm forced to wait for a new dell, unless I can convince myself of getting a 13 inch witouth a seperate gpu (like the Y series).

The dell 13 inch vostro series also looked nice untill I saw one in real life (strong and light, but ... to shiny). Comon dell....gives us what we want!

 

Does the fact that I can't find it on the Dell USA site mean an update might be coming soon? Still waiting on Apple and Dell to see what my options are before I pull the trigger on another laptop.

 

They better put the vent on the side, too. The design they had earlier had the vent placed right behind the laptop. Since it's behind the laptop, it gets covered by the screen when opened, making the vent useless. Place the vent on the left side, throw away the dvddrive (it's going the way of the floppy drive), add i3/i5 options, add the 330/335m option, and BAMMM we have one hell of a laptop.

 

Wish it was that simple it would be like a dream come true for someone like me who are looking to get a new lappy for performance and portability

 

Great ideas, though this would be a completely new system. No DVD drive allows for a bigger battery, better cooling, and smaller design. Imagine having a 9 cell battery that doesn't extend, a core i5 processor, and a single strong GPU along with the built in intel GPU! I don't use my DVD drive unless I'm at home, so I'll gladly sacrifice it for a better overall system.

Heck look at what Sony does with the Z, and that includes the DVD drive! They also have great power management. The Z with the standard 6 cell battery lasts as long as an SXPS13 with the 9 cell battery. You can just feel the SXPS13 wasting energy, heat EVERYWHERE.

 

Almost a week since they pulled it out...I'm getting the feeling that the refresh could be a direct competitor to the Vaio Z, or similar laptops of its class.

 

well dont expect a refresh too early, its been only a week. Most likely we will have to wait a few more, they sell out the rest of 1340's from business sites, and maybe other countries, and when their stock is empty they will introduce a new system that is not outdated. Either way you cant expect them to drop a new model after a week.

100% guarantee it wont be i7....it will have i3 or higher clocked i5s.... and a new gpu

 

Pretty bold statement to make. While I can't see a quad core i7 appearing, I can quite believe Dell would put some of the dual core i7's, or even one of their low voltage i7 parts, in the XPS13 replacement/refresh

 

Just to inform you guys, the xps 13 is still available on the indian dell website.

 

Yeah, its something strange. International Dell websites still have it up for sale but from experience its sometimes either Asia or Europe that get the first grabs when it comes for a new model.

 

You’re right, at this point if One is in the need of a 13” powerhouse, the Vaio Z is the option to go unless Dell comes out with an update - though I think the updated specs would not outdo the refreshed Vaio Z.

Your’re also right about the Vaio Z series’s price not being horror given it’s specs, my point was there’d be a need for a middle/low-high class notebook as well in the 13” segment.

It’s only I can’t believe ( I almost wrote „I doubt”) other brands would leave this segment alone for Sony. Anyways, there’s a bullet waiting for me too.

 

It seems the "Home" section of the Dell US website is the only worldwide site that doesn't have the SXPS 13 available for purchase. As the business site is usually updated 2-3 months after the home site, it's still available for purchase there. From my experience Dell US are usually first to get the new updates/models. The HD 4670 on the SXPS 16 for instance, took a few weeks to appear on the EU sites after the US released it.

It's also interesting that if you had an old bookmark or link to the SXPS 13 (US), clicking it now brings you directly to the Alienware M11x (US) website:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-studio-xps-13/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-xps-13

 

It doesn't show me the M11x Website, it shows me the studio 13 options itself.. weird..

 

That is weird, it's still going to the M11x website (U.S.) for me. Maybe it's redirecting you to your local Dell website where it's still available? It does that to me sometimes.

 

I don't mind keeping it on the back but they could definitely design it better. Having it on the left side is ideal though (so long as your not left handed). I'd be more annoyed if they placed it on the right.

By chance I end up purchasing one that would heavily effect my decision. I still use CDs/DVDs quite commonly even though I'm slowly using Flash drives more often. There would need to be something very worthwhile being added (in addition to more USB ports) to justify removing it.

Having a Core i3 option standard with no Core i7 options would be somewhat disappointing. This is supposed to be Dell's premium performance laptop so anything less than a Core i5 would be a poor decision (this laptop shouldn't be competing against Inspirons). Having a low voltage Core i7 options would seem ideal for me personally (though I have to look more into the performance lost : battery life gained ratio for Arrandale). Ideally they would also offer an ATI 5xxx option for DX11 support but I'm so sure they'll do that.

 

I forgot completely about dual core i7's.. your right we might see it then... But wouldnt it be better to get a high clocked i5? vs dual core i7?
i5 is still dual core but they have pretty high clocks.

As for new a vent redesign I hope they do it!
Optical drive should also go just to make room for better specs! But they should include usb one standard!

I would preffer the battery design to change. because if u use it at home often I tend to take out the battery, but on xps1340 it leaves an ungly space!

Speakers could be a lil better.

I hope to see 5300 WIFI card as well!

Yea but the refresh is probably gona take some time since all countries other than US home still have it for sale

 

Nope, its showing me the US website for the xps 13. This seems really weird.

 

No, the dual-core i7-620M is clocked higher than any of the i5's. It also has an extra 1MB cache.

It's pretty much guaranteed that some form of i7 processor will be available in the SXPS 13 refresh. The i7's come in all TDP variants of Core iX mobile CPU's; 18W, 25W and 35W. So no matter what options are available, there will always be a Core i7 that's suitable.

As I mentioned before, it's very unlikely that they'll put the ULV 18W chips in (way too slow), so it's either going to be the 25W low voltage i7's (i5's don't come in LV form) or the 35W standard voltage i5/i7's. With Lenovo, Sony and HP all using the standard voltage Arrandales in their 13"/14" laptops, I really can't see Dell not offering these CPU's, all the way up to the i7-620M.

You'll probably notice I haven't mentioned i3's. As echoed by a couple of members here, putting i3's in this is probably as likely as them putting in the ultra low voltage chips.

LOL, it's redirecting me to the SXPS 13 page on the business section now, even though it's a "home" link I posted.

Predicting the graphics card is very difficult. They're pretty much open to anything (i.e. ATi or Nvidia). One thing's for sure though; they're not going to fit the SXPS 13 with a GPU thats close or equal to the performance of the GT 335M in the M11x.

I'd be happy with a 5 Series ATi DX11 card (as mentioned above by Sephoroth) or a moderately powered Nvidia GT card. I think even the GT 330M is too much to ask for.

 

A 5 series ATI card, higher clocked i5's and i7 620M, good placement of vents, this system will kill all competition

 

Spec wise, G310M w/ Arrandale IGP using NVIDIA's Optimus switchable graphics technology and 6200/6300 WiFi, would seem likely. Vents on the side.

 

Chipset- and switchable graphichs-wise You’ve just met my wishlist.

As for the GPU, I hope they’ll fit a more powerfull one than the G310M, I think I remember Zlog telling us the G310M actually seems to perform worse than the G210M does, so a Class 2 GPU (thats slower than the Alienware’s GT335) would be welcome on my side.

Switchable graphics is a goodie I’m waiting for every day, though Dell didn’t adopt them (yet) to the SXPS 1647 systems, and even where the i7 620M CPU would have supported it, they paired it with the PM55 motherboard that did not (don’t know wheter it was on purpose). Anyways I’m a bit afraid Dell wouldn’t give us a decent switchable graphics options, though it’d be more than lame.

 

They are still selling the sxps 13 in Belgium, but then again, they kept selling the previous 13 inch xps until a few months ago aswell. Its like they dump al the old hardware leftovers to europe.

 

Optimus seems to be all the rage in notebooks/switchable graphics. So, I would guess a NVIDIA GPU. A 310M would be the same GPU finding its way into 10" netbooks at this point (the Ion2 has a GT218 GPU, the same as the 310M). It would be nice to see a GT325M or GT330M in the 133(5) refresh. Timing is the issue for me and I don't see any evidence that Dell is in a hurry to refresh the XPS 13. It's a shame too cause i finally got to see the XPS 16 in person in Best Buys and it looks much better than its photogtraphs. It made me think I would like the 13 better in person too. The one in Best Buy was black but I think I would like the Cranberry/Red one.

Bronksy

 

Hmm.. what do the 25w mobile i7 clock? I thought the lowest W is 35, since intel just announced it this January "the new mobile 35w icore processors" I wasnt aware there are so many choices.. Can you tell me the clocks of 25w i7.. standard clock and turbo mode

 

Processor Number Δ±	Intel® Smart Cache	Base Frequency	Maximum Turbo Frequency	Max TDP	DDR3 Speed	Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology	Number of Cores
Intel® Core™ i7-620LM	4MB	2.0 GHz	2.80 GHz	25W	1066/800 MHz		2
Intel® Core™ i7-620M	4MB	2.66 GHz	3.33 GHz	35W	1066/800 MHz		2
Intel® Core™ i7-620UM	4MB	1.06 GHz	2.13 GHz	18W	800 MHz		2
Intel® Core™ i7-640LM	4MB	2.13 GHz	2.93 GHz	25W	1066/800 MHz		2
Intel® Core™ i7-640UM	4MB	1.20 GHz	2.26 GHz	18W	800 MHz		2
Intel® Core™ i7-820QM	8MB	1.73 GHz	up to 3.06 GHz	45W	1333/1066 MHz		4
Intel® Core™ i7-720QM	6MB	1.60 GHz	up to 2.80 GHz	45W	1333/1066 MHz		4

 

You're right about Dell being comfortable, they should have at least announced their refresh by now.

A GT325 would be nice, and decent (enough).

The SXPS 1645/1647 looks good, but way too big.

Sorry You're running out of time, I have 1-2 months to pull the trigger, and as You wrote about Dell' refresh nature, I might end up walking in Your shoes.

I see You've guessed on the number of the refreshed system, 133(5), might actually be a perfect hit, although others - as well as me - thought it'd be 134(5). Who knows, maybe Dell visits this thread as it did with the throttling investigation one, and name it something completely different.

BTW I read a review about a red SXPS 1340, photographs included, looked good, would have been hard to decide between red and black.

 

In case this wasn't posted before, they are still selling the 1340 in Canada as it was.

 

Dell Canada has now gone "call for latest prices" on the XPS 13, yet you can still configure and add to cart.

 

Thanks a lot!! wow those 25w i7's are pretty damn fast even tho its only 2 cores with hyperthreading but still fast!!! I hope to see that in xps1340, low W with good speed, and hopefully ATI card or a good nvidia.
Thanks for the info I didnt even know those exist!



BTW to everyone, WE ALL GOT THE POINT! the xps 1340 is still selling in other countries.. dont spam the thread with same info.

 

Just a bit more of info: the shops here in Estonia are selling their last 1340 for around 70% its regular price. I asked one guy who works in one shop and he said that it's because they will soon receive the same model with Core i5.

I can't guarantee how real this information is but it's already something more than just especulation

 

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but in response to a post that I made in the Dell Community Website, I have received a number of messages indicating that people who have spoken with Dell representatives are being told that the XPS 13 is being discontinued and its replacement is the Studio 14. This doesn't make any sense to me. The Studio XPS and the Studio are enturely different models and seem designed to appeal to different consumers. Nevertheless, that is what is being told to customers by Dell's staff. Of course, it wouldn't be the first time that Dell employees had no clue.

Bronsky

Edit: So, after 10 years outfitting my small business with Dell laptops, it looks like I'm going Sony.

 

It doesn't make sense to me either but I very much doubt they're discontinuing the SXPS 13. Excluding AW (most average laptop consumers do), that would leave Dell with only one high performance laptop (SXPS 16), which is too big for most customers who require portability.

The way I see it is that the sales reps are obviously not going to say a customer "The new model isn't ready yet, if you can wait a few more weeks, it will be". They're going to say "We don't have that laptop available anymore, but we do have this (Studio 14, M11x etc.)". They're there to make sales, not defer them. They're pretty much told to lie and cheat if it gets them sales!

I agree with you saying it wouldn't be the first time that Dell reps were "left in the dark". I think I posted earlier in this thread about contacting a rep on the availability on the HD 4670 on the SXPS 16, to be told that there was no plans for the upgrade - a week later it was released. Obviously, he wanted to sell Dell's old stock of the HD 3670 machines so he wasn't going to say to me "Yes, it's coming, hang on a few more days". I'm applying this logic to the SXPS 13... and I really hope I'm right!

 

To me it often just seems like their sales teams simply aren't technologically educated rather than providing intentional lies (though I'm not saying there aren't those who do lie). What you're describing won't earn a sale if they state they are replacing a product with one of obviously inferior quality (going by the name alone indicates this); they are merely encouraging a customer to shop elsewhere.

 

.....we all do

 

I see where you're coming from; most people would just say to hell with it and get another manufacturer's premium laptop. But I'm sure they get at least some sales re-directing people to the Studio 14, for instance. It seems (for some reason) that Dell feel they're better off this route rather than saying to customers "It will be available shortly" whether it's a new model laptop or an upcoming feature.

 

Wow, this thread has boomed since I last posted. Just thought I'd send an update that they changed the Home website to include the Studio and Studio XPS 16 in one page...which is either just a temporary change (as we all hope) or there in fact is no plan for a new 13. I wish I knew the answer, because I need a new computer ASAP as my laptop broke last week and stealing the one I'm currently using is hardly a long-term solution.

 

I really doubt that Dell will not refresh the XPS 13. 13"ers with powerful cpu's and dedicated graphics are big sellers and especially with the new Vaio Z as competition, I doubt Dell would want to lose sales to Sony. Maybe Dell is preparing a new XPS 13 with Nvidia Optimus and Core i5/i7's.

 

I personally see Apple as being the bigger threat than Sony should they refresh their MBP's with a discrete GPU's (I'm not sure they'll go backwards in graphics performance by switching back to Intel's options) before Dell does.

 

I hear ya! The thing is that I've seen a lot of designs coming out of Dell that don't make any sense or seem to be designed by someone that doesn't use a computer. Have you ever tried to type on an Adamo keyboard? The XPS 13 is the best platform that Dell has to stay in the game with the Sony Z, the 13" MBP refresh that is surely coming and other hybrid ultra lights like the Asus UL30JT. It would make no sense for them to simply discontinue it. The Studio 14 has some stiff competition out there with the Sony CW and the Asus N82. I would probably pick the N82 if I was in the market for a 14". It is just not a proper replacement for the 13. The M11x is a nice machine but it doesn't belong in a business setting.

My business laptop needs to be light and powerful. I have almost given up hope that I will be buying Dell this time. I was ready to order a CTO Sony Z but the lack of HD display and the No Trim SSD has given me real pause. The solution seems to be ordering from Conics.Net in Japan, who will be able to configure a Z with a 7200 rpm HD and the HD display. I could ultimately replace the HD with a single SSD with proper trim. That means that i will not be ordering until mid-march. Hopefully, Dell will have something on the XPS 13refresh at CeBit by then. I will also likely have the chance to look at the 13" MBP by then, but I am not an Apple fan.

Bronsky

 

Well, they completely removed the Studio XPS 1340 from Dell Canada.

Are they going to replace it with something new? It would seem rather extreme to remove the laptop entirely for a spec update, so I would assume that they'll be revealing a redesigned model soon or discontinuing it. Though that would make no sense since the only other high-end 13" is the Adamo and it is ridiculously overpriced in Canada compared to the Sony Vaio Z.

 

If there is a refresh I hope that they don't go down the 16:9 format screen - I really like the 1280x800 res screen.

 

I think the Alienware line replaces the XPS line.

 

There are many possibilities, currently xps1340 is gone from us business site as well.

Dell might make another 13incher, they might not. They might make one and rename it, like before dell used to have XPS notebooks, then they made newer ones and called them studio xps. Maybe dell is currently redesigning the xps 1340 because its a quite new computer only about a year old, and some new systems tend to have problems and design flaws, there are many maybes. But this thread is starting to turn into Rumors and gossip.

Lets just wait until something does come out in 13inch category and then post facts?

 

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/p...ukbsdt1&a=47079~0~237376&navla=47079~0~237376

Thats the Dell UK business site, searching for 13" screens. The blurb for the SXPS 13 says:

Click through and it's still Core2, but who knows, could have let something slip a little early...