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    Anyone else experiencing eye strain on M1530 LED LCD?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by elwood, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. elwood

    elwood Notebook Geek

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    I noticed it from the moment i booted it up. It almost like it's hard to focus on the screen. The screen is not grainy. I don't know what it is.

    I've tried turning down the brightness, gamma, everything. Nothing seems to make it better.

    Anyone else experiencing this? Any suggestions?
     
  2. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    Some peoples eyes do not like LEDs. Could talk to an optomotrist.
     
  3. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    Take a picture with a good camera to show us.

    My LED has been the best screen there is giving me much less eyestrain thanks to the extra brightness, vibrant colors, better contrast, and more.
     
  4. Wolfpup

    Wolfpup Notebook Prophet

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    ^ Ditto for when I got to borrow a Macbook Pro for a week. I'll never buy another CCFL screen again.
     
  5. artfuldodga

    artfuldodga Notebook Geek

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    Yes, at max brightness its enough to blind somebody... I find 85% brightness is fine, seems really dark at first but thats because you're used to 100%, after an hour it becomes ideal and no eye strain

    My screen is also crystal clear, very nice.. but like I said, max brightness is a killer =] ... I'd only use it editing photos
     
  6. paper_wastage

    paper_wastage Beat this 7x7x7 Cube

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    i have a similar thing... looking at the LED screen at first seems weird for the eyes... but after some usage, my eyes are okay....

    try some lubricant eyedrops? i always use them if im at the computer for prolonged periods of time
     
  7. alorares

    alorares Newbie

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    Hello chaps,

    Same story for me.
    Also some eye strain since I own my Dell Studio 17 with WLED screen for 2 days.
    Now I turned brightness to about 30% of maximum and eye fatigue seems to reduce. Hope I will be used to the screen in some time...

    Best regards,
    Alfred L.
     
  8. JacksonDane

    JacksonDane Notebook Guru

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    Max Brightness is unusable unless you're outside, otherwise the screen is fine for me. But I think I know what you're referring too, I used to get that problem from my 21.6" Samsung LCD.
     
  9. joepro

    joepro Notebook Enthusiast

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    At first it hurt my eyes as well, but after since I have adjusted and love my LED screen!
     
  10. gpzbc

    gpzbc Notebook Enthusiast

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    ugghh... I am having the exact same problem. But I was in denial until I found this thread. I hope that my eyes get used to it because I don't want to send my new computer back.

    Interestingly, there is a lot of similar complaints on the new MacBook Pro. You can check out a discussion here. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1677617&tstart=0

    But they all recommend turning the brightness up all the way to reduce the eye strain. They claim at lower levels of brightness, the flicker increases.

    Can anyone confirm that their eyes have gotten used to it? I really don't want to return mine and if someone else has gotten used to it then it will give me hopes that I can do the same.
     
  11. Wolfpup

    Wolfpup Notebook Prophet

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    Huh. Must be something that only affects some people. For me, I can't go back to florescent lighting.

    I guess I'm glad my eyes don't work well enough to see that flicker? :D
     
  12. elwood

    elwood Notebook Geek

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    Mine is perfect now. Go to the Nvidia Control Panel (right-click desktop) and try these settings:

    Brightness: 32%
    Digital Vibrance: 46%
    Contrast: 10%
    Image Sharpening: (greyed out) None
    Gamma: 39%

    Thats with the laptop brightness at two notches below the highest.

    Good luck!
     
  13. millermagic

    millermagic Rockin the pinktop

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    Is it a glossy screen? I've had some issues on my glossy LCD before. Never had any problems with a matte screen.
     
  14. gpzbc

    gpzbc Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks!
    I'll give it a try. I am currently trying keeping the brightness turned all the way up. I read that lower settings increase flicker.
     
  15. gpzbc

    gpzbc Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yep, it's glossy.
     
  16. gpzbc

    gpzbc Notebook Enthusiast

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    For all of you doubters out there. I replaced my LED screen for a non-LED screen and the eye strain headaches were gone instantly. 100% gone!
    No doubt about it.
     
  17. gpzbc

    gpzbc Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just want to re-emphasize that I traded in my LED glossy screen for a non-LED glossy screen. My eye strain headaches were gone instantly and I have never seen them since despite the fact that I am still using a glossy screen.

    Oh, and by the way, I went to the eye doctor recently and my eyes are approximately the same as they have always been.

    There is no doubt that LED was giving me a miserable headache. Perhaps it was me and not all users will have the same reaction. But, with that being said, I would urge all to take caution with the new LED screens.
     
  18. Wolfpup

    Wolfpup Notebook Prophet

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    Any idea why that was? The technology doesn't cause issues like that for most people, but I've no doubt it can for some...probably any display technology does for some. In the case of LED backlighting, I *think* it's turning the lights on and off quickly to simulate different brightness levels, which is maybe the issue?

    I *think* more people are affected by florescent lights though, as a lot of people can't tolerate them. For myself personally I think I'm less bothered by my LED backlit displays than florescent, but the latter's not bad for me either, thankfully.
     
  19. gpzbc

    gpzbc Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wish it wasn't a problem for me. I LOVED the LED screen. It used less battery, it was brighter in sunny conditions, and I like the way it looked. But I spent the entire month that I was using the LED screen with motion sickness symptoms.

    I tried everything to convince myself that it wasn't that bad. In fact, at one point I decided that I was going to keep it despite the effects but my wife finally snapped me out of it. She asked me, "Why keep something that you can't use for more than ten minutes with out feeling like sh*t?"
    So that is when I exchanged it.

    I'm sure it won't affect everyone, but it happened to me and judging from my google searches, it is happening to a fair number of other people, I would say there is a problem. The manufacturers have to know about it, even if there is only something like a 5% chance of occurrence. Perhaps it will become more of an issue when LED backlighting becomes more prevalent in more computers and HDTVs. Either that, or it will simply go away as the technology is improved.

    By the way, I think it was the flicker, not the brightness that made me sick. I tried turning the brightness down but that only increases LED flicker (do some research on LED lights). And I tried full brightness with good sunglasses and that didn't help. It was quite funny. I wore my sunglasses every time I was on the computer for a few weeks.

    Check out this flicker test: http://www.csse.uwa.edu.au/~lucas/background.html
    It is steady on my non-LED glossy screen but it jumped around like crazy on my LED glossy screen. That is what confirmed it for me.

    Here are some more forums where people are experiencing similar effects. The first one is a helpful read.
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8372390
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1677617&tstart=0
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=319787

    Good Luck!
     
  20. abaumm78

    abaumm78 Newbie

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    My daughter got an Acer Aspire One, which has an LED screen, and I can't be on it more than 10 minutes or so before I have severe eye strain and feel sick to my stomach. I'm a designer and stare at the computer often for 8 hours straight at work, and have never had these symptoms, and I've never had them with my trusty (but ancient) Gateway pc at home.

    I'm glad to have found the two threads on this issue, in this forum. I use her laptop quite a bit and had planned on getting one for myself soon (not an Acer, that's for sure...but that's another story). But I'll be sure not to get an LED screen now that I've finally figured out after two months that it's the LED screen causing the problem. In the meantime, I've tried turning up the screen brightness to max, which was unbearable, and now it's a little less than max...still uncomfortably bright, but it does seem to have improved the motion sickness and eye strain symptoms...I just can hardly look at the screen...lol. :cool:

    I'm going to see if I can get used to the brightness. Are there any other suggestions other than swapping out her laptop completely?
     
  21. Wolfpup

    Wolfpup Notebook Prophet

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    Have you tried other LED backlit screens to know it's all of them? LED's here to stay, and will probably take over all the florescent tubes. For most people that's a great thing, but not for those it affects (though remember there are people affected by florescent and not LED too).

    I've been using LED backlit screens since February, and thankfully don't have that issue. Switched my laptop, monitor, and TV to LED lit models now.
     
  22. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    I got a Gateway with an LED and I too get eye strain. The LED is much brighter than an LCD and my eyes are probably attempting to adjust. Sometimes the fonts in the Gateway screen seems a little blurry. I adjusted the 'ClearType' to a blacker shade and seems to help. I also dim the screen a little bit.
     
  23. Wolfpup

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    You can turn cleartype off and switch back to Windows' normal anti-aliasing, which I vastly prefer. (That doesn't have anything to do with the backlighting of course.)

    And if it's too bright, you can turn it down. I think I use my laptop at less than half it's max brightness most of the time, which is awesome.
     
  24. S0397

    S0397 Newbie

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    Hi guys. I have had the same problem (eyestrain and headache) with 13" Vaio (Sony Z series) and had to return it. Does anyone know of any 13" laptops, preferably with an optical drive, which are NOT LED backlit? thanks
     
  25. Wolfpup

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    Not sure that there are any. I'm thankful about that, but it would stink if florescent lights don't bother you but LED does.