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    Bluetooth mouse with new XPS 15

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by turn2dust, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. turn2dust

    turn2dust Newbie

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    Can anyone recommend a good bluetooth mouse for use with the new XPS 15 ? I have a Microsoft Designer mouse that will not connect at all with this new machine. Did everything out there, update drivers, etc and it will not sync. The machine does see it though.

    Any additional suggestions for troubleshooting and/or recommendations on a good bluetooth mouse for use would be appreciated.
     
  2. Marcelosiciliano

    Marcelosiciliano Notebook Consultant

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    I'm using MX Anywhere 2, but the Bluetooth only works properly if the WiFi network I'm using is 5GHz, if is 2,4GHz the pointer becomes jumpy. If I'm on a 2,4GHz I use the WiFi mode of the MX Anywhere 2, so I can use it anytime anywhere without problems.
     
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    jmontagu13 Notebook Enthusiast

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    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    If you're buying a new mouse, would say, skip Bluetooth altogether and go with 2.4Ghz wireless for mice. Even though Bluetooth is a "newer" wireless tech, it doesn't automatically make it better.

    You have far fewer options when it comes to Bluetooth mice, which limits your choices on shape, size, battery life, and features. Even the mice that are Bluetooth are often imperfect. They usually have some kind of drawback to their design, whether it be poor battery life, wireless interference, etc.

    If you want a solid all-purpose wireless mouse, get a Logitech M705 Marathon mouse. It's about as perfect of a simple mouse as you can get, with the added benefit that it is wireless and has battery life that pretty much lasts forever.

    If you want a solid gaming wireless mouse, get a Logitech G602. It's got decent performance as a gaming mouse... With the added benefit that it uses a sensor from among the family of "perfect" mousing sensors (avoid high-dpi laser sensors), and has ridiculously long battery life for a gaming wireless mouse.

    In either of those cases, I would recommend you spend the money to get 2xAA Lithium batteries. They will last about 3x as long as alkaline batteries, and weigh 33% less. That changes those mice from heavier rear-balanced mice into lighter center-balanced mice, with the added benefit of long battery life. AA Lithium batteries will make a M705 Marathon mouse last about 6-9 years, and a M602 gaming mouse last around 3-6 months on high-performance gaming mode.



    Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
     
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  5. Fant

    Fant Notebook Evangelist

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    If you're gonna keep a battery in your mouse for 6-9 years do you have to worry about battery leak?
     
  6. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    Lithium batteries don't leak like alkaline batteries do. The chemistry is different

    Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
     
  7. Thysanoptera

    Thysanoptera Notebook Consultant

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    I had exactly the same issue even further amplified by usage of Bluetooth headset, jumpy mouse and distorted audio while on WiFi. Turning off Bluetooth Collaboration or something like that in device settings helped to some extend but still didn't work right. So I bought Intel 8260 and have no issues whatsoever, it is slower in ideal settings (two antennas vs three) but on the road while using public or my phone hotspot it doesn't make any difference. And I have it hardwired at home anyway.
     
  8. saladin

    saladin Notebook Enthusiast

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    been hearing all about Bluetooth and WIFI conflicts. Stick to my Logitech performance, and has no problems so far.
     
  9. Woodking

    Woodking Notebook Evangelist

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    Any particular make you'd recommend - and can we get rechargeable ones like the Eneloops - they last me a long time in my mouse (Microsoft Mobile)?
     
  10. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    I use Energizer AA Lithium batteries. They are non-rechargeable.

    I actually prefer the non-rechargeable kind, due to the light weight and long battery life. You end up paying more for them over the course of several years. But I'm willing to pay a few extra bucks, if during those few years for the battery life and weight profile they give me.
     
  11. Woodking

    Woodking Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks.

    I've just read the lithium ones need a special charger and can be a bit volatile when being recharged, I'll just give the non rechargeable kind a go for now.
     
  12. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

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    You're thinking of Lithium ion batteries... The rechargeable kind found in high end electronics.

    I'm talking about Lithium polymer. Non rechargeable batteries, that are an alternative to your regular non-revhargeable alkaline batteries.

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  13. Woodking

    Woodking Notebook Evangelist

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    Got it. I've used the normal Alkaline non rechargeable and the Eneloop rechargables - but not tried the Lithium Polymers so will have to give them a try in my mice :)
     
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    I had the bluetooth + 2.4ghz wifi problem for the first time today with my Logitech MX Master. Really annoying. Reset the bluetooth adapter and the mouse and it went away.
     
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    panserg Notebook Enthusiast

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    Dell Traveler mouse is good. It has special USB receiver to connect to USB. I think using specialized receiver is better than Bluetooth.
     
  16. LOUSYGREATWALLGM

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    How long have you been using your MX Anywhere 2 and how frequent? I'm looking for a bluetooth mouse for XPS and this is the only mouse I find attractive
     
  17. Bommel87

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    I just bought the MX Anywhere 2 some days ago. I was experiencing the same issues as anybody else with the DELL wifi/bluetooth chipset (1830). (large delay and lag with mouse)
    A lot of people are saying that setting bluetooth collaboration to disable will help. Initially it does for a few sec, but in the end the problem comes back. I then decided to switch to the intel 8260 chipset.
    Quite a bit of work, but works like a champ. :)
     
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    That's not the answer I'm hoping to get :(

    I wanted to replace this 1830 Bluetooth card with Intel one to get WiDi working but saw people talking about getting weaker wireless performance with the Intel card. How do you find your new wireless card? Which card is it?

    EDIT: Just realized you already mentioned your new Wi card *palmface*
     
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  19. Woodking

    Woodking Notebook Evangelist

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    I've installed the Intel Wireless card and it works very well. Its a straightforword swapout, remove the back case and the card is held in by one small screw. Pop off the 3 little leads and use connections 1 and 2 - leaving the grey lead off.

    The card is Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 (8260NGW) NGFF wifi card 867Mbps 2.4/5Ghz - found mine on Amazon. You'll be suprised how small this thing is when it arrives.

    Removed the Broadcom Drivers and installed the latest Intel ones - works perfectly.
     
  20. LOUSYGREATWALLGM

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    I read people getting lower performance on their new Intel wireless card vs the stock card? i.e., slower speed
     
  21. Bommel87

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    I think that the most important part about a wifi card is reliability and stability of the connection. In that regard, the Intel card performs better than the dell stock 1830. Dell is even offering the Intel card as the standard solution for the precision 15 (business version of the XPS 15).

    For short range communication, the Dell 1830 certainly is faster. But who cares about this case of usage if it fails when it really matters?
     
  22. Laki021

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    Could you tell me if you are now (with Intel wireless) able to use Intel WiDI.
     
  23. LOUSYGREATWALLGM

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    You got a point there but I'm still weighing the pros/cons before doing the switch. I have no issue with my current setup unless I'll use the MX Anywhere 2
     
  24. Bommel87

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    I understand. I am not sure if it is the MX Anywhere only. Could be any Bluetooth low energy device (like the anywhere) or even every Bluetooth device. Devices with an additional dongle should not cause an issue.

    Considering that you can get the 8260 for around 20€ (roughly 20$) vs. 2000€ of the laptop, this is not a big investment.
     
  25. LOUSYGREATWALLGM

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    Not every Bluetooth mouse gets the issue, like my Microsoft. I'm trying to avoid the dongle as it occupies 1 of the 2 usb slots on this machine and it makes me feel like I'm using a very old laptop that has no built-in Bluetooth card lol

    I'm not concerned with money here but performance.