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    Can the Dell XPS M1330 output 1920x1080 resolution?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by tdb, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. tdb

    tdb Newbie

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    Can the Dell XPS M1330 output 1920x1080 resolution? Can anyone confirm this?

    I would like to use it with my widescreen 1080p HDTV via VGA or HDMI. I think the TV only supports HDMI version 1.2. Not sure if this will make a difference.

    Also, I would like to use this laptop with older TVs. Since this laptop does not have S-video out, would it work with a VGA-to-S-video/RCA adapter at 1024x768 resolution?

    Thanks.
     
  2. H3rmaN

    H3rmaN Notebook Evangelist

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    nope, the max the M1330 will output is 1280x800
     
  3. TrisTan 08

    TrisTan 08 Notebook Consultant

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    You would not be able to read the screen anyway! the screen is simply to small for that sort of resolution!
     
  4. kozzney

    kozzney Notebook Evangelist

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    No, the M1330 can output up to 1920x1200 via HDMI
     
  5. FearTheTerp

    FearTheTerp Notebook Consultant

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    I think it should be fine as long as you have the 8400gs. My 8600M GT displayed in 1080p on my 42 inch 1920x1080 widescreen.
     
  6. DeaconBoogie

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    It does with HDMI, as another poster said. I've done this on my 1080p plasma set at home.
     
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    so what is the max the 8400 can output in vga
     
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    1080P resolution
     
  9. FearTheTerp

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    Advanced Display Functionality

    * Dual-link DVI outputs for digital flat panel display resolutions up to 2560x1600
     
  10. H3rmaN

    H3rmaN Notebook Evangelist

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    does it?! ah well...you learn something new every day!
     
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    Dell has lied about this before.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it does. Right now I'm using my M1330 with a 22" at 1680x1050. Besides, whats the point of having a HDMI port if it cant output 1080p ?

    It can play 1080p without any problems, so the hardware is certainly capable of supporting it, therefore I don't see any reason why DELL would intentionally cripple the output.
     
  13. vengance_01

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    HDMI can do more then 1080P, but does it have a dual link HDMI port capable of driving the 30" LCD panels with 2560x1600 resolution.
     
  14. FearTheTerp

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    That was from the nVidia website.
     
  15. tdb

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    Thanks for the replies so far, but can anyone confirm through personal experience that the laptop does indeed output the specific resolution of 1920x1080?

    I have another Dell laptop that can output up to 1920x1200, but it could not output 1920x1080.
     
  16. samir3

    samir3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i connected my m1330 to my dad's sony bravia 46" through hdmi and it displayed at 1920x1080. if you want a screen shot for proof, i can get you one, but you trust me...right....
     
  17. samir3

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    attached is a quick screen shot on the 46" bravia
     

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    tdb Newbie

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    samir, thanks for the reply and screenshot.

    What a pleasant surprise. I didn't think the M1330 could output 1920x1080 resolution based on posts from this forum and the Dell forum.
     
  19. SuperCM

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    So we now know that the M1330 can output the desktop to a TV, but what about things such as HD Video playback or gaming? Would the 8400M GS be able to maybe pump Counter-Strike or Team Fortress 2 in 1920x1080? Or I guess maybe even something smaller and have the TV scaler handle it.
     
  20. vengance_01

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    no the 1330 can play games of that caliber much above 1280x800 res.
     
  21. nehal

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    Samir OR Anyone on the forum, i have just joined forum and read about connecting HDMI cable and getting output to 1920 x 1080 but what about sound? The reason for asking is that when I connected my Samsung LCD FULL HD with my XPS 1330, I believe (didnt check it) the resolution wasnt an issue but the sound was still coming from my LAPTOP although my understanding says the sound should also come from the TV once the HDMI cable gets hooked on.
    Please help.
     
  22. paper_wastage

    paper_wastage Beat this 7x7x7 Cube

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    right clikc sound properties.... check MUTE for everything EXCEPT HDMI
     
  23. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Set HDMI/Digital out/SPDIF as the Default Playback device and restart the media player program.

    It will cripple the 8400GS at those high resolutions.
     
  24. Maksa

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    i am sure XPS M1330 should support 1920x1200 on external screen. i have Inspiron 1720 and it works fine with my Dell 2408WFP 24" 1920x1200.

    i have placed order for XPS M1330 will be getting this week. if it will not support my monitor then i will send it back.
     
  25. Maksa

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    i got problem...

    when i try my XPS M1330 with Dell 2408WFP 24" Monitor 1920X1200. Text are not sharp same with images.
     
  26. kissakiwi

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    Hi,
    I have just puchased M1330 and have a Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS display.
    I am connecting via HDMI and if I display at 1920x1080 @ 60Hz - which the display tells me is optimum - the text is very very blurry, screen seems to be bigger than display!

    Have tried all sorts but can't get it to be very readable. Compared to my 22" display with DVI connection - 1680x1050 which is crystal clear - VERY DISSAPOINTED!

    Have also tried with my desktop PC with a RADEON 9800 CARD in it and that is also horrible at high res!

    Any ideas please?
    Thanks
    KK
     
  27. Maksa

    Maksa Notebook Consultant

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    i am using my 2408WFP with XPS 1330 and now everything looks fine. just did restarted system after i plunged in the monitor.

    also using one more 22" dell monitor there also it works fine.
     
  28. generic_user

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    Hi kissakiwi

    Never fear, help is here.

    I recently purchased the same screen and had the same problem connecting via HDMI from the XPS M1330. After a quick search I found your post and now, after a quick play around, and my problem fixed, I have registered to share one possible solution.

    Assuming that your bios and nvidia drivers are up to date, try the following. (Note also, I installed the monitor driver and profile from the install disc that came in the box).

    1) Open up your nvidia control panel -> advanced view
    2) Set up multiple displays (if you havent already)
    3) Go to custom resolutions and select the samsung display
    4) Create a resolution profile (1920 x 1080) and click on the advanced tab
    5) Set the timing standard to CVT - Reduced Blank (The Fixing Part :))
    6) Press the test button and if all goes well you can apply the setting and exit everything.
    7) Enjoy your screen behaving normally :)

    Hope this helps.

    n.b., I will be looking into the matter further over the next couple of days to seek any performance improvements that might be possible.

    Kind Regards.
     
  29. 7oby

    7oby Notebook Evangelist

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    I have heard of certain notebooks and drivers blacklisting certain resolutions. I forgot about the exact reason why somebody would want to do that.

    In general each display propagates its possible and preferred resolutions along the DDC2 channel to the notebook. This information is contained in a data structure called EDID and evaluated by the display driver to present meaningful resolutions to the user. With this tool
    http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm
    you can check whether the display sends the correct resolution and refresh rate information to the notebook. If it does not, then maybe the firmware of the display needs an update. If it does, then the display driver does something very strange.
     
  30. generic_user

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    Thank you for the good advice 7oby.

    Monitor Asset Manager is a handy little tool indeed!

    What I can gather from the EDID info is that the device is not sending the correct resolution and refresh information - at least for the native 1920x1080 setting. In addition, timing info is not being sent properly either.

    'CE Video Data' returns the correct values (see output below)

    CE video data (timings supported)
    1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    720 x 480p at 60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
    720 x 576p at 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001


    However, this information is incomplete when compared to the 'Standard Timings Supported' report. (As Follows)

    Standard timings supported
    640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
    800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
    800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
    1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 800p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
    1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD


    Note: No 1920x1080 information - consistent with both kissakiwi's initial problem and my own.

    In addition, the 'Timing Characteristics' reported by the monitor show CVT and GTF standards as not being supported. This seems strange to me.

    Timing characteristics
    Horizontal scan range.... 27-81kHz
    Vertical scan range...... 50-60Hz
    Video bandwidth.......... 170MHz
    CVT standard............. Not supported
    GTF standard............. Not supported
    Additional descriptors... None
    Preferred timing......... Yes
    Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
    Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync


    It is also of interest that the H/V polarity @ 1920x1080 is reported as being +/+, although the manual specifies +/- (VESA 1920x1080).

    Thus, I guess we can rule out any "blacklisting" of resolutions by any manufacturer. However, I am now unsure how to proceed from here. Samsung do not presently have a firmware update available so I presume that I will have to initiate some correspondance. The only thing that springs to mind that is worth noting is that this model is not actually a full 24" display, but rather a unique 23.6" display of 16:9 aspect rather than the more common 16:10 'golden ratio' from the series.

    Any advice welcome.

    Thanks again for your help 7oby. Two thumbs up! :)
     
  31. 7oby

    7oby Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think it's important. This is also read on my 1920 x 1 200 (not x 1080) HP w2408. It's not needed to drive a display.

    This is fine. It takes that from the CE video data.

    Obviously the Windows driver doesn't respect the CE video modes. in general it's hard to blame somebody for that. Standards such as everything around EDID
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID
    defines how information is represented, but often and in this case as well not how it has to be interpreted. However the general resolution to such conflicts which emerge quiete often is to accomodate for all cases. All cases means generalizing and nVidia Windows drivers should respect and display CE video modes.

    The nVidia Linux drivers are also developed by nVidia. Therefore I don't expect a different behavior to see over there. However fedora 11 will contain an open source driver for the nVidia graphics card:
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE3OA

    It would be interesting to see whether this driver respects those settings. If somebody wants to dispense a DVD for it, you might want to try the fedora 11 beta live dvd:
    http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease
     
  32. bumper_boy2000

    bumper_boy2000 Notebook Guru

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    i'm doing 3600x1200 dual monitor on my xps m1330. using hdmi and vga. it works, apparently. hahaha. cool :D
     
  33. danstemp

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    Hello,

    Have Dell XPS M1530. My Samsung SyncMaster refuses to have a clear picture with the XPS. Did you find a solution to your issue. I have tried everything with no resolve.
     
  34. danstemp

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    Hello,

    Read this and got really excited. I have Dell XPS M1530 with NVIDIA GeForce 8400. Hooked up to my Samsung 2253BW and the picture is blurry and dull. I think I have tried everything including your recommendation with no results. I tried the custom resolution and it comes up (Custom mode test failed.)

    Just wondering if you came across another solution.

    Thank you.
     
  35. solomaster

    solomaster Notebook Geek

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    I don't think the GPU is entirely responsible for the screen res. My desktop's GPU can handle up to 1920x1080, it can't power a 30" display because of it not having a dual link DVI. But my 22" monitor can only go up to 1680x1080. So you might be able to output to 1080p because of the GPU; only by HDMI, not VGA, but you won't be able to set the notebook's screen to 1080p.
     
  36. generic_user

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    Hi there danstemp.

    I did come up with another solution with my XPS M1330 G8400 GS on the Samsung 2494HS which works perfectly, and which is annoyingly simple compared to the custom settings route.

    For the 2494HS, Open up the On Screen Display menu on the monitor and go to Setup. Under Image Size you can change the size of the screen displayed on your monitor. For HDMI/DVI Mode, use the " Just Scan [mode] - Use this function to see the full image without any cutoff when HDMI/DVI (720p/1080i/1080p) signals are input." <-- for Samsung 2494HS owners. Having done this, every setting (Custom and Standard) worked perfectly.

    However, according to the manual for your monitor (p. 45), this does not seem to be an option for you. Further, the native resolution for your Samsung 2253BW (see your Manual, p. 9) is 1680 x 1050. http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=au&CttFileID=1811611&CDCttType=UM&ModelType=C&ModelName=2253LW&VPath=UM/200801/20080105125513265_BN59-00671A-Eng.pdf

    So, I would try the two different modes there (Normal and Wide) to see if you can get the result you desire. Failing that, try out the custom timing modes at 1680 x 1050 and see if you can get lucky. Also, and I know this shouldnt be needed, install the monitor driver that came on the disc in the box. Do this first, restart, and try the above.

    Hope this helps, and be sure to reply if you require further assistance or to let us know what works.

    Kind Regards

    g_u
     
  37. bumper_boy2000

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    er... i'm doing dual monitor from my notebook. hdmi to 2709w, vga to e207wfp.
    1920x1200 and 1680x1050 respectively. using A15 bios and 8400m gs.
     
  38. tmorrowus

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    I am writing this post on my 1300 with 8400M graphics, outputing 1920x1080 pixel perfect over hdmi to my Samsung 40" HDTV monitor. To prevent the blurriness I had to do two things:

    1. Press fn-f8 to switch from clone to single monitor, turning off the laptop screen.

    2. Set the monitor to "Just Sync" mode.
     
  39. ta531

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    Hey samir3, I was wondering if you could help me...???? I am having trouble connecting my xps m1330 via HDMI to my sony bravia, I'm not sure how to do it? I can't seem to get my laptop to output anything at all to the tv?

    please help??
     
  40. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    Nvidia Driver version and TV model no? And what does the Fn+F8 combo do for you? Does it bring up any onscreen display/error/message at all?

    It could be a defective cable.. Have you tried it with another source?
     
  41. herngyih

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    Thanks alot Generic...You solved my problem
     
  42. Samuel613

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    The M1330's can output both 1920x1200 and 1920x1080. I haven't tested any higher, but I run those two resolutions side-by-side together (HDMI=1080p, VGA=1200p).

    I did have a weird issue with the 185.85 drivers (I had to go back to 179.xx) that it at each bootup and resume from standby the HDMI output to my Viewsonic 21.6" 1920x1080 monitor would set the refresh rate to a nasty 25hz. If anyone can explain why, I'd appreciate it. No matter how many times I set it back, it always did this.

    Interestingly, and on a related note, the Viewsonic 1080p monitor happens to have two HDMI modes for the single HDMI connection it offers: PC and TV. If I cycle through the monitor's inputs and select HDMI PC, the screen displays properly (aside from having to reset the refresh rate back to 60 hz when using the 185.85 drivers).

    But on the monitor's HDMI TV mode, it cuts off a small portion of the edges of the screen, almost like it's stretching the image beyond its frame. Is that related to that CVT advanced setting mentioned before? Does anyone know the technical explanation for this?

    Does anyone know why the 185.185 drivers would set the HDMI monitor's refresh rate to 25 hz?
     
  43. Noway79

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    Hi everybody!
    I'm from Italy and I'm sorry for my poor english!

    I got problems between my XPS1330 with nVidia 8400 video card and my external monitor Samsung 2333HD, 16:9 aspect ratio and native FullHD resolution (1920*1080).

    When I connect VGA cable between laptop and monitor and by pressing the Fn+F8 keys to switch from laptop to external display, problems happens:
    in fact, desktop is displayed on laptop display, at the resolution of 800*600.

    If I want to use Samsung, I need to manual chahge video settings using windows interface: with nVidia Control Panel it's impossible to chenge it.

    Another consideration is that if I install Samsung monitor driver, after I got theese problems, the drivers is no longer know, and in Device Management is show only "General Plug&Play Monitor".

    Now I'm seeing this thread and this is my situation with Monitor Asset Manager:

    Is the problem that my monitor's native resolution is not show in "Standard Timings Supported" ??????
    It's possible to upgrade monitor firmware to fix it ???

    Thanks everybody!

    Alessio