Color saturation on XPS 15 1080p display?

Does the red in particular feel too bright on anyone else's display? I moved the red saturation from 0 to -10, and green from 0 to -5.

Just wondering if anyone tweaked these settings and have some recommended values (or would it just be specific to each individual's hardware?).

 

Color saturization will occur by definition on any high-gamut display as it can display much more colors than windows thinks. 33% more, in fact.

Solution: calibrate the display.

 

Is there a way to calibrate the screen to show things as they were intended to be showed? I calibrated mine to my like but it pretty far from what things were intended to be. Games for example, looks way darker when played windowed(colors controlled by nvidia control panel).

 

Yes: buy an professional calibrator (e.g. spyder 3 $150) or use someone's else color profile.

in that case windows will display "only" 72% gamut, AKA sRGB, only color managed applications will use the full gamut (like Photoshop).

of course, a oversaturized screen is still better looking than an undersaturized display.]

To the average customer, any gamut over 72% has exactly zero benefit.

 

This wouldn't really change the display gamut, and it will only help with applications that are truly color managed. The non-color managed applications will not use this profile and will still assume the display is sRGB, so they will still appear oversaturated.

Want to see the difference? Look at a photo in your web browser, then download the same photo and open it in Windows Photo Viewer. With a properly profiled display, it will appear correctly in Photo Viewer, but oversaturated in your browser. Chrome, Firefox and IE have various levels of color management, but none seem to work properly without some tweaks.

Even programs like Faststone Image Viewer, which claim to be color managed, will suffer from the oversaturation on hi/wide gamut displays because while it is aware of the images colorspace, it is NOT aware of the display profile.

 

> buy an professional calibrator (e.g. spyder 3 $150) or use someone's else color profile.

Yeah, only to encounter that calibration doesn't work in most browsers except Firefox and it doesn't work in Windows 7 itself (you get wallpepers, icons, and even videos appear uncalibrated, as I know video programs don't support calibration).

If somebody knows how to make Windows 7 respect calibrated color profile, please let me know.

I didn't know about this problem before buying this notebook.

But what choice would I have? If anyone is aware, do newest Macbook Pro's displays have the same problem?

 

When it comes to screen quality Macbook Pros sit on the throne of all laptops. They use IPS panels which offer the best possible quality which is why Macs are so favoured in the creative industry. Dell laptops on the other hand are not used in the creative industry and thus Dell couldn't careless about colour accuracy. I had Dell switch out my LCD panel for a LG one because the Samsung one the laptop came with was grainy. So if you're unhappy with your panel Dell should replace it for you with little issues.

 

The macbook pro's do not use IPS panels...

The macbook (pro) 13/15/17 use regular TN panels with crappy viewing angles like every other TN panel. The screen quality is about identical to the XPS 17 3D display. wich is still miles behind the xps 15 panel and IPS+RGBled panels in elitebook and precision notebooks for HEFTY price premiums (€500 for the display alone. Yea, that twice the price of an decent 23" IPS panel).

The thing is, a better display isn't necessary better in real life. The colors can be oversatirized. The brightness can be too high. The matte/glossy (pick your favorite) coating can, and will, be annoying sometimes.

Everyone just laughts at when i say higher color gamut isnt always better. Why would anyone preffer "web standard colors" over "more saturized red/green/blue colors"? Well, just ask the user who started this thread and you know.

 

Or ask me. These XPS colors suck as default, and if I use calibrated profile for Photoshop I'm stuck with those defaults for Windows itself. Options in the graphic card's menu won't cut it probably, I tried them. They can't be as good as color profile. I can't believe they are selling this without any warning about the issue like everybody would be OK with these colors. I'm telling you, if you're going to buy this, find out about it here before making a decision.

I was aware that Macbooks are for designers, but I didn't know anything about this wide gamut issue. I didn't even know it's "wide gamut" and surprisingly reviews don't mention the problem at all like it doesn't exist.

Darkstone, maybe you know, how is color management in Mac OS? If I use color profile there, does OS enforce it on all non color managed programs? Any ideas on when we can expect fully color managed Windows? Macbook Pro panels are not wide gamut?

 

Macbook (pro) panels (~72% NTSC) are not wide gamut. Even the apple Cinema display (~75-80% NTSC) use regular gamut.

shocker! Your mac's are actually pretty useless when working in aRGB workspaces.

 

I vehemently disagree with this. I have an RGB LED on my m17x R2 with a gamut of over 100% and it's the most vibrant and beautiful screen I've ever seen.

It literally takes a crap on the washed out crappy ~72% gamut screens most laptops have. So I'm sorry, this consumer definitely sees the benefit, literally, of the high gamut screens.

As mind boggling as it is for me, I guess some people prefer washed out, dull, low gamut screens?

I have no need for 100% precise or accurate colors. But my eyes every single day thank me for choosing laptops with high gamut, "over"saturated displays that show colors popping off the screen.

Couldn't ever go back.

 

And wide gamut is even more useless in Windows. If you do calibrate it, which most people don't do, you can't even watch a movie or youtube videos with normal colors.

 

> As mind boggling as it is for me, I guess some people prefer washed out, dull, low gamut screens?

Are you saying that Macbook Pro or Apple Cinema display's colors are washed out?

 

Apple Cinema displays are NOTORIOUSLY overrated. Look at the Anandtech review. I'd take a Dell Ultrasharp over the Apple Cinema any day.