"Dell Studio XPS 16" gaming

Can you give me your "Skype", KSMB?

 

i dont know which world chrusti comes from, but i OCd me SXPS the second day i got it (just to see "which" different it became). however, i play most games with stock settings because i dont need any OC, this PC runs great as it is)

it no big deal to OC this Ati cards.....so whats the problem really ????? (the main thing is to keep the temp "normal"....thats all)

 

MY GAMES STILL LAGGING!!! I reinstalled all video drivers :/

 

And if my "Vista" is 64 bit?

 

Just download the ATI Catalyst driver suite for Windows Vista x64.
Mobility Modder works with both x86 (32 bit) and x64 (64 bit).

Link to download:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=vista64/common-vista64

 

I have downloaded it as I said, but it is still lagging. "CS" showing FPS~100, but it is still lagging.

 

Can you be more specific about your lagging? What exactly is the problem?

 

It is starting lagging (hangs image) when I am shooting or going somewhere. And in other games the same...

 

And it is not because of server lag... Ping is normal...

 

I dont know from what Bizarro Universe you are from KSMB, but in the Normal Universe NO ONE can overclock a Dell Studio XPS 4670.

Except for some online Fakers of course *cough*

 

man, ive been talking about 3670 SXPS since first post ......(there is no driver who support OC on Mobility 4670 yet i guess)
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@McBoy............here you have..................Vista 64.bit:
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1.
download modded package:
http://go.notebookreview.com/?id=52...iverheaven.net/frontpage/modtool/download.php
2.
download Ati 9.9 (Vista 64.bit):
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?driver=VideoCard/vista64-suite
3.
start installation of the Ati driver, BUT cancel the installation once the driver is extracted. (the Driver will be extract into C:/Ati/Support)
4.
run Mobility Modder - browse to the driver in C:ATI/SUPPORT/ -
(- hit modify. Wait until driver is modified)

 

Now the 4670 can be OC'd in other laptops such as the MSI EX265 where the video bios is unlocked and McBoy I have been having the same problem it seems to be that the 4670 is underclocking its self due to heat Undervolting my CPU has made it better however applying thermal paste to the GPU and CPU might produce even better results i will try and post back to let you know of the results

 

there is quite many threads (in different forums around the world) there people complain about lacking performance on 4670 SXPS.........

(if its the cause, which seems odd) i think its really weird that DELL have been careless about the thermal paste....i mean, how hard can it be to choose proper thermal paste on a $1500 PC ??????

 

Still the same.

 

Yah my 3670 outperforms it which is shocking to me

 

Get GPU-z and post your temps have you tried undervolting? this helped a little for me i can actually play games now to where they aren't stuttering so much also if your comfortable with it changing the thermal paste might help also i believe its a heat issue

 

like i said before..........

when i play BF2142 with my friend (online) he have 2X more AA and maybe 10-15 more FPS..........(otherwise we both have 1920x1080 + high settings).....thats the difference between this cards in BF2142


@Mckelliny.
really strange that your older SXPS with 3670 outperforms your new SXPS with 4670........and i think its even stranger that the cause only should matter of the Thermal paste

 

this seems to be the issue KSMB my 3dmark06 scores are lackin on my 4670 where i got 5488 compared to my 3670 where i got 4759 which also makes it more baffling? and after an Undervolt i received a 6376 3dmark06 score stranger yet lol

 

Here you are:

 

Mine runs about the same I get some lag on ts3 and it shouldn't lag at all on this system! I wonder if mine could be from heat also?? Does anyone know why the bottom temp is really high???

 

im bout to open her up and check the thermal paste application however i noticed an improvement with undervolting my processor less heat floating around i suppose

 

the problem seems to be that some SXPS 4670 GPUs down-clocks itself way to early...........

when you play games the GPU should run in state#1 all time, (only time it down-clock itself to state#2 is when the GPU gets hot enough and reach its threshold-limit, (which is quite high)

state#1 is full performance (if you wonder)

State #1 GPU: 675 MHz, Mem: 800 MHz_______________(3D-high)
State #2 GPU: 450 MHz, Mem: 700 MHz_______________(3D-low)
State #3 GPU: 340 MHz, Mem: 405 MHz_______________(2D)

 

So what me do?

 

Undervolt your CPU for starters will atleast reduce the environmental heat and i just got doen opening her up and there is a sparse amount of thermal paste on the GPU, more on the CPU than the GPU for sure this seems to be where the problem is, from the undervolt i removed upto 23'c from the environment everything is cooler which explains my initial improvement but after a while this only does so much so here are two options call dell and get a new heatsink or re-apply thermal paste yourself im going to do the latter and will let you guys know the results

 

if i take a wild guess, i think the problem with some SXPS 4670 is this:

your Ati drivers is not 100% compatible with your 4670 video card. (which means the driver doesn't "tell" the video card to keep "state#1" all time during hard 3D-performance)

i dont think undervolting the CPU will solve the problem overall. (undervolting does not affect the temp around the GPU that much) i more think its a driver-question you have to sort out

change driver > test game > run 3dmark06 > check result + temp......
(if thats not work, chang driver again until you see some positive result).

my second ide what the problem may be is that the VBIOS (video card bios) is not responding correctly on some 4670 rigs. (if thats the case, you cant do anything about it, (except replace the GPU by DELL support).

 

Well I have been talkin about the 4670. Its obvious since I have that card.
So I dont see what you are talking about.

 

i've been having the same issue with my FEAR2 and framerate drops for god knows how long til i eventually just stopped playing it, no matter how low settings were.

 

k ive tried dell drivers and modded drivers im going to do a search for laptops with the 4670 and try their drivers

 

The ATI drivers drop the temps by 2c for me. You should try them.

 

Ok i'll Clarify i've used Driver versions 8.631 (dell) and 8.650(Modded ATI which is current)

 

well, i guess im reaching to the right direction here.

most you guys who have weak performance with 4670 on your SXPS use 64.bit OS ???? am i right.

64.bit OS have "always" been that OS who have easiest compatible issues with GPU drivers. (im not saying it always so, BUT it happens time to time with 64.bit OS).....just look at Win.7 64.bit with some laptop-brands, heavily compatible issues with some drivers.

 

hm, i'm using the latest 9.9 official driver modded and at the "graphic software" it shows catalyst version 9.07 and driver version 8.632..

 

So you recommed better to reinstall to 32 bit?

 

yes, i actually recommend that.... BUT as your last option.. (its nothing bad to install 32.bit OS...personally i prefer 32.bit )
(i have no use for +4GB RAM anyway)

 

well, installing 32 bit OS the a computer with 4GB or more RAM is pretty stupid. u will loose an amount of your memory for nothing, so if u'll notice any performance difference, the 32 bit system will be slower because of the less detected RAM. 64 bit is fully compatible backwards except of drivers but all 64 bit drivers are available for this system.
not to mention: 32 bit is the past, a few years and it will disappear.

 

eehh. thats wrong, (you right about the +4GB Ram issue, but not about its slowness)....

the main advantage with 64.bit is IF you use a lot with Rendering programs, (such as Lightwave 3D, Maya, etc)...there you have the real advantage with a 64.bit OS, (because the CPU & Chip support this programs 64.bit processes).

otherwise, 32.bit have same performance as 64.bit in games, (sometimes slightly better, sometimes slightly worse).....

 

hmmmm im not too sure about this KSMB because dell ships mostly 64 bit software and this is not a really widespread group that is affected i think the driver problems + heat is the issue or it just could be bad GPU and need a replacement and besides for ppl with 4+ gigs of ram (I have 6) its not feasible to drop down to 32 bit

 

I ran GPU-z while playing FEAR2 and it is not running at full clock speed. What is up with that? The GPU is not even that hot. Is there a way to force it to run full clock speed like my cpu. I took off the speedstep thing from intel because my CPU would not run at full clock speed even on high performance and now without speedstep I get full clock speed out of my CPU.

 

AutoCAD and so use up memory so 6 what I need

 

It looks to me like something a BIOS update could fix. You guys got the latest one?

 

yah im running A11 i have had better gameplay since i've undervolted and looking at the thermal paste application i can still read the print on the processor ill take a pic and post it here in a bit

 

well guys....seems ive been right about one thing....some of your 4670 cards DONT keep "state# 1" during games, (its somehow down-clocks itself which it shouldn't).


State #1 GPU: 675 MHz, Mem: 800 MHz_______________(3D-high)
State #2 GPU: 450 MHz, Mem: 700 MHz_______________(3D-low)
State #3 GPU: 340 MHz, Mem: 405 MHz_______________(2D)

and its quite possible its depending of the driver...
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@mckelliny...............i haven't said you should go down to 32.bit........

(6GB Ram ???? he he....
i have 3GB (Intel® Flex Memory) and NEVER use its full range of it. (not even when i play Crysis)

 

KSMB: i said u won't notice a difference in speed just because a system is a 32 or 64 bit version. the pictures confirm that too u linked: the difference is minimal, u can't even say one of them has better performance than the other.. u won't have a weak performance with ur 4670 cause u're using a 64 bit system as u said, it has nothing to do with it. u can have a weak performance cause of using crap drivers, having faulty hardware, etc, but not because 64 bit itself, so there's really no ANY point using a 32 bit OS on this system, especially not if u have 4GB or more RAM..

 

You are misunderstanding his post. He's pointing out the problems drivers usually have in 64bits architecture which could result in the loss of performance and he's also pointing out there aren't many common programs that use the 64 bit architecture so it's a viable option if someone's below or at 4GB RAM and don't use those 64 bit applications.

 

I have the latest drivers from dell's site. If the drivers are not working well with the 64 bit system why don't they create one that will.

 

its easy to locate this issue on 4670.
install Everest Ultimate > play game > look which "state" your 4670 card runs in.....

if you use Everest ultimate edition 5..... then you have a really cool feature for Vista.
only Ultimate who have Vista sidebar, then you have GPU-clock and everything.......(if you want this edition, send me a PM)

 

Reapply thermal paste you will no longer have this problem i did and glad i did cuz i was getting fed up before i played RE5 on 1280x720 all on high with dips now i can play it at 1920x1080 on medium with no hiccups consistently at a min of 31 FPS

 

I thought Bioshock would have problems as well but at 1080 and everything on high, even when the action got somewhat intense the computer never hiccupped. Is there a specific thermal paste recommended and is it hard to do? I never attepted something like that. The most I have done is replace a HDD and add more memory.

 

Ok. And also could you tell me what are the best "HDMI" settings for "ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4670" and "SONY BRAVIA".

 

artic silver 5 is pretty easy there is even thermal paste that you can brush on like nailpolish http://www.newegg.com has it