The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Dell XPS 13 i7 5500U/8G/512GB SSD

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Chris1919, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. Chris1919

    Chris1919 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5

    Hi all,

    I recently purchased Dell XPS 13 i7 5500U/8G/512GB SSD - XPS13-D1708P.

    I've updated to a 1TB SSD as 512GB was too small. As computer only has one SSD slot I want to now sell 512 GB SSD drive.

    However, I can't work out the model and manufacturer, other than that it was built April 2015 and has black Toshiba things on other side. Can't find using numbers on panel using internet. Want to work out so I can accurately quote model and to give me an idea for price.

    Cheers
     
  2. Chris1919

    Chris1919 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
     
  3. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,354
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    476
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Use "Upload File" button near the bottom of the reply text box.

    Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
     
  4. Chris1919

    Chris1919 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi Kent,

    Thanks for your response. Did the images not show from my original post? I have posted them again. I could not find the upload file button near the bottom of the reply text box though so I've just uploaded again via the image upload button.

    Cheers,
     
  5. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,354
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    476
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Yes, pictures showed up fine (in all posts). They didn't display properly on my smartphone, but appear fine when I'm on a computer. Sorry for confusion.

    Anyways, you have a Liteon CX1 series M.2 SSD, in 512GB capacity. You won't find it for individual unit sale anywhere. In fact, the only times you'll ever see it available for purchase as an individual unit would probably be when someone pulls a unit from a laptop, and sells it as an individual part (like what you are doing right now).

    The hardware looks identical to the Plextor M6e M.2 SSD, with the difference being firmware and branding. Liteon owns the Plextor brand, so my guess is that they sell the drive as a Liteon CX1 to OEMs like Dell, and sell the drive as a Plextor M6e to consumers.

    The drive itself is a nice little performer. It's a PCIe SSD. Around 700 - 800 MBps read/write rates, and about 100K IOPS. That's on the higher end of what you'd expect to see from PCIe-connected M.2 SSDs that do not have NVMe.

    A Plextor M6e M.2 SSD in 512GB capacity sells for around $500. If I were you, I'd list the drive on eBay as a Liteon CX1, mention that it is very similar to a Plextor M6e, and expect it to sell for around ~$450.
     
  6. JimmyCfl

    JimmyCfl Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    16
  7. Chris1919

    Chris1919 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi Kent
    Thank you very much for your extremely informative response.
    I will do as you say re eBay and may use some of your descriptions verbatim to describe the item!
    Jimmy, the drive was only used for a couple of days when I first purchased the laptop in July, so it is almost new (and comes with windows 8.1 installed as I didn't clear the drive before removal and replacement with the 1TB SSD)!. The laptop itself comes with a warranty as would that drive as part of the laptop, but I imagine warranty would not travel with an individual part?
    I'll post the link to the item on eBay once I post it.
    Cheers, Chris
     
  8. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,354
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    476
    Trophy Points:
    151
    I disagree. The drive you listed is an M.2 drive connecting through the SATA controller, and are limited by SATA-3 speeds (around 500MBps read/write rates). Those types of drives usually cost a little above $200 for a 512GB capacity.

    The drive that the OP has (Liteon CX1) is an M.2 drive connecting through PCIe, which has a much higher transfer rate (in this case, around 700-800MBps read/write rates). A PCIe M.2 SSD typically costs closer to $1 / GB, or about $500 for 512GB capacity.

    Now, it's an entirely different discussion whether that additional speed is worth the additional cost. But I wanted to point out that the Transcend drive you bought isn't a comparable product to the Liteon CX1 that the OP owns.
     
  9. JimmyCfl

    JimmyCfl Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    16
    That's a good idea to sell it on ebay though ,
    Just FYI ... as soon as you upgrade your LP , dell will void the warranty immediately ..
    "The guy at MS store told me that , I upgraded mine to 256GB SSD , and keep the old one as is , in case i need to send the LP back to dell for repair .
     
  10. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,354
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    476
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Chris: As for warranty, it's safe to assume that there will not be a warranty with that drive.

    Liteon lists a 3-year warranty for a Liteon CX1. But that warranty is a contract between Liteon and their customer (Dell), not between Liteon and the current owner.

    If you have a problem with that drive and try to call Liteon, it is very possible (and very likely) that they will tell you that they will not honor the warranty for an individual drive. Or they will tell you that the warranty does not carry over to the new owner, when the product wasn't purchased from an authorized reseller. They will probably tell you to have the laptop owner (you) to call the laptop manufacturer (Dell), and get the drive replaced under warranty through them. Not too hard for you to do, but it would be a bit harder for some random eBay buyer to do.

    Rarely, a company may make exceptions to that rule, and provide direct warranty support to whomever currently owns the drive. But unless you see that in writing somewhere on Liteon's warranty policy, don't count on it happening.
     
  11. kent1146

    kent1146 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,354
    Messages:
    4,449
    Likes Received:
    476
    Trophy Points:
    151
    That is incorrect.

    Individual states have buyer protection laws, that state that a manufacturer cannot void a warranty for user-serviced parts that are unrelated to the damage being reported, unless they can prove the association. That means that if Chris1919's laptop display fails and needs replacing, Dell cannot tell Chris1919 that they will refuse to honor the warranty because he swapped out the SSD. In order for Dell to do that, they must be able to prove that swapping out the SSD is related to the damaged laptop display.

    And a company like Dell will not bother doing that. If your laptop has a damaged laptop display, then Dell wants to just replace that laptop display as quickly as possible, ship that laptop back, so they can work on the next damaged laptop. They are not going to spend the time investigating your system to try and find evidence why they should not honor a warranty, because it's a waste of time and money. Even if Dell KNOWS that 1 out of 100 laptops being sent in are fraudulent warranty claims, it's still cheaper to just honor the warranty on all 100 laptops than it is to try and find the 1 fraudulent claim. When you run a business, even if you KNOW someone is stealing from you, it still may be cheaper to just let them steal from you than it is to try and stop them.

    As for keeping the original SSD... yes, that is a good idea. If you send your laptop in for repair, Dell always has the right to replace a faulty SSD, or replace your entire laptop. That means you could send your laptop in (with your 1TB SSD), and get back a laptop with a newly formatted 512GB SSD in it. Not because anyone is trying to steal your 1TB SSD, but because the it may be faster and cheaper to just give you a new laptop than to try and repair the damaged one you send in.
     
  12. Chris1919

    Chris1919 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi Kent and Jimmy,
    Thank you both very much for your input. I've now listed the item on eBay:
    http://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/111768396891
    If you see any errors before people start bidding, pls let me know.
    We'll see who turns out right in the end in the price! I'm hoping that Kent is more on the ball ;)
    Cheers
     
  13. Chris1919

    Chris1919 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi Kent,
    Adding to what I said, I think you are correct on the price range though, although for a new item, being a PCIe SSD with 830/730 MB/s read/write, whereas the one Jimmy purchased doesn't have those specifications. Let's hope the couple of days of use though does not offset the price too much of what is in essence an as new product. If you do recommend any changes to the advert, please let me know as I've used much of what you've said in the description: http://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/111768396891
    Cheers, Chris