Dell XPS 17 L702x is sata 3?

Hi All

Can anyone confirm whether or not the new XPS 17 is sata III? Been looking everywhere and the only clues are that on dells hard drives product pages all the XPS drives are ATA-150, whereas the alienwear, inspiron,etc are ATA-300.

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Thanks

 

I've asked a lot of Dell reps and all say SATA II.

 

It does support SATA III (6Gbps).

 

Nice!!!!

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Thats great, thanks for showing some proof. Shame Dell can`t be a little more elaborate with their specs.

 

Wow this is awesome. Thanks Webcivilian... I had set on going with a SATA II because looking through the huge Dell L702x thread I couldn't find anything about it and all Dell Reps kept telling me SATA II.

Thank you for the confirmation!!

 

i just checked on mine xps17.
and one sata6 port is in use (guess its the HDD)
and one sata3 port is in use (cd drive)

dont know if the second hdd bay is sata 3 also.

 

Just got off the phone with the dell customer service people and yeah, same thing, they told me it was SATA II, but thanks for the proof of picture, i was looking at a vertex 3 ssd, and i want it to run to its full potential.

 

The installed drives are SATA II, which could be confusing them.

 

Sounds like the XPS 17 ship with two different chip sets. One with only SATA II if you don't order it with a SSD in the build. The other is with the SATA III, but only if you build an XPS 17 with a SSD.

I'm curious, webcivilian, was your XPS pre-ordered with a SSD? or did it some with a regular HD, and you installed an aftermarket SSD?


09/21/2011 10:06:13PM

scott: "so if I got the 750GB 7200 RPM SATA HD, the XPS 17 will not be capable of recieving SATA III devices in the future? I'm asking about the XPS SATA connector, and not the HD SATA connector."

09/21/2011 10:07:02PM

Agent : "They are all SATA II only"

09/21/2011 10:08:14PM

scott: "unless you pre-purchase your XPS 17 with a SSD, then the XPS connector side comes with SATA III?"

09/21/2011 10:08:27PM

Agent : "Yes"

 

All L702x laptops use the same Intel chipset which supports SATA III. My laptop came with the standard 500GB drive and my Crucial 256GB M4 is running at SATA III (6gb/s). Dell agents are clueless.

 

Cool. I just found this online. According to the specs for the HM67 (Revision B3), 6Gb/sec SATA is supported. 2 ports at the 6 Gb/sec speed and 4 ports at 3 Gb/sec.

List of Intel chipsets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The specs are listed under "Core i Series Mobile chipsets"

How do I know which 2 ports are the SATA III ports?

Thanks for the quick reply

 

Dell sales people are idiots, they are badly trained. They still tell people the 3D system has wi-di and Optimus, which of course it doesn't since it is hardwire-bypassed....

The l702x comes with SATA 3 regardless of what you order. The two HDD bays are connected to the SATA 3 ports. The ODD and ESATA are SATA 2.

 

Sorry of I'm hijacking this thread but I though it better than creating a new one for a similar question. Does anyone know if the the first generation XPS the L501X supports Sata 3. I want to replace the HDD with a SSD and replace the ODD with the current HDD

 

It does not. Only the Sandy-Bridge based Intel chipset has SATA 3 native support atm, and I'm pretty sure Dell didn't put their own controller in on the previous gen...But you can still do what you want. If you get a SATA 3 SSD it won't run full-speed, but will still be plenty fast, and when you upgrade someday, you can use that full speed.

 

i was just asking i can get a SSD that''s much cheaper than buying one anywhere else off a mate that's closing his business he has one left in stock.. it's the OCZ vertex 3 and thats SATA3.. i'm not too pushed about the full 6gb/s speed as long as it is going to work

 

is that showing 4 SATA ports? 0,1,2,3?

 

i beleve they are SATA II and SUPPORT SATA III for 2 internal ports , esata is Sata II , CD rom port shows of as Sata I



see my test , cant perform read test since os is on it, but acording ot intell they are sata 3 internal, my guess is sell locked them as sata 2 in bios witch makes it under pwerform if you dont buyt one with ssd, i hope soon theywill get menus hacked in dell's bioses for xps , sofar they are able to mod vbios, also it says raid is anvailable, but not via bios since its locked away andother thing 5 pcie 1x slots ? i only found 2 when i opened it , 1 for wifi and 1 for 3g, also i noticed dell sells used laptops for a new price, there where some screws missing (once that hold the screen in place) and 1 rubber missing from the woofer in my dell

i wont get a 2nd dell ever , ofc they are good notebooks ,but way to locked and 2nd hand stuff

 

This is a lie that Dell tells. I can personally guarantee that the BIOS is NOT different if you get an SSD versus not. I bought mine with only one 500GB HDD and added my own SSD, and it runs at full speeds (500MB/s+ read) no problems. Many others here do the same thing. Why Dell tries to tell people this is beyond me...obviously hoping to get you to overpay for the SSD from them. The internal drive bays on the l702x are SATA 3, PERIOD.

 

Just like to back Matt up, i also used to run an m4 at full S3 speeds with 500mbs read times.

 

then how do you explain why my ssd so under perform ? its not even runnung at 50% of its speed its a freaking 555/550 MB/s sata 3 ssd, mines came with an 500 gb seagate ssd with freefall, i added my own ssd bcuz i wont pay for an ssd they put in , their prices are way to igh and i can get beter/bigger once for that

 

Make sure your SATA controller is NOT in IDE mode. It has to be in AHCI to get proper speeds, in IDE you get under SATA 2 speeds so that well may be your problem.

Note that if you are indeed in IDE mode, you have to do a registry change before you can change the controller mode, otherwise you won't be able to boot in AHCI (no data will be lost though). See link: Error message when you start a Windows 7 or Windows Vista-based computer after you change the SATA mode of the boot drive: "STOP 0x0000007B INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE"


And I agree completely there is no reason to buy an SSD from Dell at their insanely inflated prices. That still doesn't mean they gimp your BIOS if you don't buy it from them, think about the extra work in maintaining 2 versions of BIOSs for the same system...Though I did hear a couple reps tell people they did this. But it's complete BS...

 

its on ahci , i thought i mentioned that,, but realy its all the speed i can take out off the ssd,

also i noticed anotherthing, they say this notebook can charge portables when its off but i tried all ports but no luck, my phone its not charging, i enabled it in bios like ahci

 

lol same is going on in m17xr3 laptop.
there dell even pulled the complete SATA3 support with bios updates and revised A01 manual.
got dell to replace my R3 for an R4 because i bought the R3 with, according to A00 manual, full SATA3 support on both drives.

the kicker is that only 1 hdd port is SATA3 and the optical drive, the second hdd port is a fooked hybrid connector that "can" operate at SATA3 but is unstable and randomly downclocks to SATA2 hence giving blue screens while using SSD raid.

looks like same happens on the XPS 17?
does the XPS 17 have Intel HM67 Cougar Point Chipset? then only 1 drive bay is full sata3 and the optical bay too.

 

no bsod , just slow , i cant check if sata 3 is realy active or not, it only says supported not that it actualy is sata 3 ,



this notebook supports more then actualy activated, im pretty sure dell downclocked the sata 3 if it has them

what bothers me to, i thought it supported port multiplier via esata but it seems not, eventhough there are 6 sata ports 4 ext 2 ntern acording to hwinfo and 5pcie 1x? i only sptted 2 , 4 memory slots ? i only see 2, realy its the last time i buy a dell , lots of stuff they deactivate or downgrade,, my nect will be probaly an msi they alow more as far ive seen for same price

 

install intel rst and in management you can see what speed the ports run.
but when you install rst the ahci drivers will be updated too to intel so be aware.

 

also a complete spec list of my lappy
http://pastebin.com/UqGxcmpt



i have that but if it is then its damn slow, as far as i know i installed intel chipset from intel themselfs, i think, the only device that dont alow that is the gma gpu

btw, alienware's is it realy usefull to have sli/corssfire ?

 

for how long is your corsair ssd running? is trim enabled?
i had some serious issues with V2 of corsair ssd and banned myself from using them ever again.

sli/crosffire is nice to have but often when the game profiles are not up to date you will not benefit of it.

a single 7970M smokes almost every card now

 

trim enabled how do i do that ? , i never had troubles with corsair memory though , its the 1st time i have ssd, and im kind of late with investigate all these kinds of things, i beleve i have it for like 4-5 months, but these treaths of bios unlock exc.. cought my intention

Max Sequential Read/Write (using ATTO Disk Benchmark) 555 MB/s sequential read — 515 MB/s sequential write

what corsair says on spec

 

was it always slow? if not looks like a trim issue to me.. or your drive is going to die soon.

Command prompt > fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)


http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...Here-s-a-tool-to-force-TRIM-your-entire-drive

force trim on sandforce ssd.

 

seems its DisableDeleteNotify = 0 , if it always was this slow i dont know its the 1st time i actualy checked, and yeah bootup is abit slower, but that could be windows itself, i disabled some services and startups sothat it became alilbit faster again

what corsair wrote to me
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I'm not sure how the tests work with HDtune, not all benchmarks will give the same results for SSDs. We set our benchmarks using ATTO diskbech( |MG| ATTO Disk Benchmark 2.47 Download) and just so we are comparing apples to apples i would recommend running a benchmark with ATTO then email us a screen shot of your results to [email protected]. be sure to include the case number iun the message (4649705) thank you

 

when i use this forcetrim i get this

Drive C: Total Space: 119867002880
Drive C: Free Space: 3186204672 (3% free.)

Allocating free space
Free Space is now: 1038721024 (1% free.)

Disk (almost) full. Freeing up space again
Free Space is now: 3186204672 (3% free.)

Done. TRIM should start automatically. Do not be alarmed if Windows appears to be frozen for a short while.
This is normal, as some drives freeze I/O while executing the TRIM.

Please allow your SSD to recover for a few minutes.

i dont know what it means with the last line , but its an os drive

 

ohwell guess there is no helping it

 

it means after the test, your SSD will still be frozen, and to give it some time to catch back up to speed and let your system work properly again.

 

yeah i readed that part, but i dont see any changes

 

I thought the same that it doesn't support SATA III. All ports are SATA II on mine. I tried both hard drive compartment and getting SATA II speeds with my SSD.

UPDATE: I uninstalled previous AHCI driver and now I'm getting better speeds. The startoverride in registry keep changing back to value of 3 and I believe that what wasn't giving my full speed of SATA III. The startoverride is no longer in registry and hasn't came back. I believe it has to do that it was still operating as in IDE mode even though I have the AHCI driver in place.

So I can confirm it does have SATA III. Look into your registry and AHCI driver. I had to rollback the drivers but deleting the current one.