Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Idle Temperature

For Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:
1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
5. What is your operating system?
6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Thermal Cooling Assembly Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)

For Sinstoic's Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:
1. 60 to 65.
2. HWMonitor - 1.10 - 06/27/2008.
3. 30.
4. Dell. R190091 - 175.97 A08 - 07/01/2008
5. Microsoft Windows Vista SP1.
6. Copper Mod.

PS: System Board, Thermal Cooling Assembly and BIOS ( except A10) revisions do not have any effect on the GPU temperatures. Similarly the Processor and the Chipset used do not have any effect on the GPU temperatures.

 

Click here for pic
i posted mine there and its about 50 - 60 degrees C

 

Mybe it would be best also to post driver version also so we can compare.

 

167.45, running vista SP1 (66C on idle)

 

Around 64'C idle, Vista SP1 and 174.xx series.

 

167.45 here

 

Idles between 48-58. Using 156.69 drivers for Vista x64.

 

67-70 idle after installing Bios A11
Running Windows XP SP3 slipstreamed
Dell NVidia Driver v.174.31 V32, A06 for XP

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade? 50-60c
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature? Everest V4.5
3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it? Dell 174.31
4. What is your operating system? Vista BIZ 32bit SP1
5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature? Copper MOD.
6. BIOS A11

 

I'm writing about my XPS M1330, NOT the laptop in my signature.

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade? 50-55c
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature? HW Monitor 1.09
3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it? Dell 169.09
4. What is your operating system? Vista Home Premium 32bit
5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature? Copper MOD.

AND another IMPORTANT issue that should be included in the details review:

6. BIOS A11.

 

I simply don't believe the less than 55C people unless you have underclocked or modded your hardware.

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade? 67C
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature? HWMonitor latest version
3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it? Latest official Dell driver
4. What is your operating system? Vista 32 bit SP1
5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature? Bios A11, A10 resulted in 72C idle temp

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade? 81C :-(
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature? HWMonitor.
3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it? 174.31
4. What is your operating system? Vista 32 bit SP1
5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature? Bios A11. re-applying original thermal pad.

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade? 50 - 57C
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature? HWMonitor
3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it? 174.xx
4. What is your operating system? Vista Ultimate 32-bit
5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature? Bios A11. Notebook stand with custom-drilled holes for M1330 fan position.

 

I didn't participate in the actual "poll" because it is useless without the associated data below.

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1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
60-70C (directly correlating to automated fan control of 3500-0 rpm)

1.5 What is your max GPU temperature, roughly determined by running 3DMark06, a world-standard 3D benchmarking tool? did I mention the basic edition is free of charge?
97C

1.7 What was the ambient temp noted while taking the above measurements?
22C

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
a. RivaTuner 2.06 - actual figures
b. 18kfangui 3.1 - +10C offset
c. nVidia's nTune (one-off to confirm RivaTuner's accuracy)

3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell's 174.31 package (R180763)

3.5 What are your motherboard and BIOS versions?
Mobo = A04, BIOS = A09.*
*Please note that I recorded the exact same temps with my [original] A01 mobo & A05 BIOS!!!

4. What is your operating system?
Windows VISTA 32 + SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
Use 9-cell over 6-cell whenever possible.

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For the record, I don't like the figures that people using Hardware Monitor are reporting. They are simply too low. Unless you are manually running your fan constantly (*or* using your 1330 in the Antarctic ... outdoors ...at night), you are not going to get anything under 55C, period. Mods excluded, of course.

I challange those users to install a alternate tool, to get a second opinion, if you will...

 

@traveller, ik8fangui (with +10C offset) also reports 50 - 57C at normal usage on my machine.

 

You have a serious problem and a dead GPU is just 'round the corner unless you get that temp under control! If you re-seated your HSF and still get 80C on average, check that the fan does come on (at 80C, the fan should be on at all times, anyways...).

Refrain from using your 1330 and call Dell immediately: Dell should provide you with a new HSF!

 

@Traveller:

Why not try the A11 bios?

What do you mean by "Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification"?

 

Just to verify, I have attached two screen grabs which show my HWMonitor and ik8fangui (+10C offset) readings. Firefox is also running in the background, which may or may not affect things.

 

Congratulations are in order, then!
I'm willing to subtract 2-3C for your modded stand and another 5C (from a max value of 70 down to 65) thanks to A11's battery-depleting workaround.

That means 57C-65C. Anything less than that means your HSF has better contact with the GPU than the average 1330 (for whatever reason).

 

Interesting - as far as I can tell (and you can see from my screen grab in my previous reply with ik8fangui's max readings) my GPU has never hit 60C. I've had the M1330 for about 3 weeks, and Word, Outlook (+VPN) and Firefox are open and running more or less all day as standard, with other software being used from time to time.

When you say A11's "battery-depleting workaround", does that apply even when one is on AC power all the time (as I am)?

 

Because I don't want to waste battery life when my CPU and chipset (mobo?) temps are well in line and only the GPU's off the charts, so to speak.

I can achieve the same (and maybe even better results) by using 18kfangui to rev up the fan if ( and only if!) I'm running on AC... .

there's however a shiny piece of Cu, roughly 1.5x14x14mm laying on my desk that I am willing to try... :yes:

 

Well, I'm jealous* (what else do you expect me to say ) I would be very interested to see what your max temps are while running 3DMark06...

*But not for long, 'cause I've got a chunk of Copper here that will turn things around

 

I think running 3DMark06 would be tempting fate - I don't do any gaming, nor do I watch movies on my laptop, so there should never be a need for my GPU to be maxed out. Once I've run the test, the GPU may never return to the efficient state it is now in, so I'd rather not chance it!

Good luck with the copper mod - if my GPU was running at over 65C, I would be doing the same. Let us know how you get on.

 

The copper modd is no brain surgery, that's for sure, and it can always be reversed if you remove the purple thermal pad carefully.

 

Ufffff, my "reverserd" thermal pad brings my 81Cº iddel mode now.

Now.... I ´m waiting for another MoB crash replacement or....just for a piece of copper.

sniff snifff

 

Ok, this is pretty odd: I usually run Linux (Arch Linux to be precise) and idle temperatures reported by nvidia's utility (nvidia-settings) are 52-57. However recently I booted into Vista and checked temperatures by CPUID HWMonitor and under Vista my GPU was idling 64 - 68 centigrade. Can OS matter in terms of GPU heat? Maybe temperatures reported by nvidia's "control panel" under linux are read badly (too low)?

 

Yes. The more the OS makes use of the GPU, the hotter it gets.

 

Having just updated to the latest drivers on laptopvideo2go I get a false reading of 53C idle now.

 

Would you mind telling us the version of the driver?

What do you mean by false reading?

 

Latest Vista 32 bit driver from here on the right:

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

I know it's a false reading as my CPU reaches an identical temperature when running the lost coast stress test as it did on the old drivers despite the GPU temps being 10C cooler in HWMonitor.

 

LaptopVideo2Go's 167.45 video driver is not the latest but (so far) the coolest (in terms of cooling the GPU) with idle GPU temperatures of 65 to 70.

The latest LaptopVideo2Go's video driver (as of 06/29/2008) for Microsoft Windows Vista 32 bit version is: 177.41.

 

I doubt it's the coolest, I just think that it gives false readings as a drop from 67 to 53C just isn't possible with the current thermal assembly by just changing the drivers.

 

Well the mod's done & the pics are online

Temps are better but not thrilling but I'd rather wait until the AS5 "cures" over night before posting my results.

My biggest fear is that the HSF doesn't look like it sits 100% flush against the Cu shim and any angle above zero is a deal-breaker in terms of proper heat dissipation...

 

Beautiful pix, as always. I hope the temps drop.

 

I've just made the copper mod (with aluminium) and it works great. Mi gpu idle temp now is between 50-60°C meassured with cpuid hw monitor. 100% recommended.

 

Rooouuunnnd twooo *ding*

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
56-64C (directly correlating to automated fan control of 3035-0 rpm)

1.5 What is your max GPU temperature, roughly determined by running 3DMark06, a world-standard 3D benchmarking tool? did I mention the basic edition is free of charge?
:yes: 71C :yes:

1.7 What was the ambient temp noted while taking the above measurements?
24C

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
a. RivaTuner 2.06 - actual figures
b. 18kfangui 3.1 - +10C offset

3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell's 174.31 package (R180763)

3.5 What are your motherboard and BIOS versions?
Mobo = A04, BIOS = A09

4. What is your operating system?
Windows VISTA 32 + SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
a. Use 9-cell over 6-cell whenever possible
b. Cu Mod

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Looks good, @traveller - I bet you're pleased!

How old is your machine, by the way? I am beginning to wonder whether Dell has done something in the past few weeks (in terms of hardware tweaking) in order to alleviate the GPU problems; they should have addressed it by now, one would assume.

Perhaps this should be the subject of a new thread, but does anyone else, who received their machine on or after 20th June 2008, see figures of 50C - 57C (directly correlating to automated fan control of 3035-0 rpm) for their GPU?

 

All right, enough's enough!
Tabten, it's time you roll up your sleeves, get your toes wet, stretch those muscles, etc...!

This is what is necessary in order to finally get to the bottom of this mystery!

1. Power off 1330.
2. Flip it over and place on a clean and non-scratching surface (tablecloth, etc.)
3. Remove the 4? screws of the HSF / DDR area cover (incl. the one that's set deeper in the middle of the cover).
4. Lift the cover from the front-side (audio-jack /SD reader end) and be careful not to apply to much pressure to the plastic tabs towards the back (battery / exhaust side) or towards the center.
5. Take out your camera. Preferably not the one embedded in you otherwise-cool cellphone / mobile.
6. If possible, mount the camera on a tripod. A 5" (12cm) $5 / €4 mickey-mouse version will do.
7. Take picture.
8. Take another, concentrating on the area where the HSF meets the GPU (and other chips). You can find enough examples among my 1330 pics.
9. Return cover (plastic tabs in first) and tighten 4? screws.
10. Upload said picture(s).

This will be much more decisive than a "poll" to see how many new 1330s have killer temps

Please.

Thank you for your due diligence in advance

 

...thickness?

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
By Vista power profiles:
Best Performance Profile: ~82°C idle
Energy Saving Profile: ~75°C idle

It is relatively hot in the office these days: ~33°C ambient temperature.

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
Everest Ultimate Edition & HWMonitor both spit the same values

3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Had many different. Currently running 174.74 (64bit) from laptopvideo2go.com for some weeks.

4. What is your operating system?
Vista Business 64bit with SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
Nothing.
I had my motherboard replaced last week by a DELL technician due to the vertical line problem. But I think he just replaced it and did not renew the thermal pad or something like this.

(Running on a 6 cell battery.)

6. BIOS
A11

I am a bit concerned about my GPU temperatures. Although I can not remember that they were much lower any time before. When I had the problem with the vertical lines appearing and stuff I managed to boot into Vista with NVidia drivers several times and was recognizing temperatures sometimes above 90°C ...
Even before this I can remember doing several 3D benchmark testings in March with 3DMark06 and the likes with temperatures more than 100°C on load.

I am running a modified Vista power profile based on the energy saving one at the moment. Because thats the only working method to get PowerMizer to clock down the GPU by half (and still have the CPU on full power), which is way enough for Aero. (Idle temperatures are mostly a bit lower than 80°C with that ...)

 

Bro you have a huge termal issue problem.
80c for idle is very very bad.

 

So what to do if I do not want to void the warranty? :/

 

Ask Dell to replace your HSF

 

I'm using Vista x64. Using the current drivers from Windows update (156.69) the idle temps are between 48-58C (depending on the fan speed) and load temps are around 70-75C.

I updated the driver (177.31 I think) from laptopvideo2go the idle temps jumped to around 70C and load temps were near 100C.

I switched back to the old windows update drivers.

 

I was also trying a newer (than 169.09) version of the nVidia drivers and I got 9-10 more degrees on my Vostro 1500. Fan was ON almost all the time. Obviously I switched back to 169.09 and now it's silence again.

 

156.69 have a false temps reading! 10c less than the real temps!

 

roy_bo, how did you know that you are getting false temp readings?

 

Because driver alone cannot get 10c less for the gpu (i had older driver that showed 10c more) Dell driver gives more accurate result.

 

Checked the temps again using 3DMark 2006 for stressing the GPU on my XPS M1330:



Now it sits at around 47-48 when browsing.

Ambient temp is 25-26 degrees.