Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Idle Temperature

NVIDIA says "significant quantities" of laptop GPUs are defective, stock tumbles (from Engadget)

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/nvidia-says-significant-quantities-of-laptop-gpus-are-defectiv/

 

Old news and already posted. Anyways, this is what I had posted:

NVIDIA says "significant quantities" of laptop GPUs are defective

Excerpt: "...Laptop makers have apparently already been given an updated GPU driver which kicks in fans sooner to reduce "thermal stress" on the GPU..."

Dell seems have to released a new video driver:

Description: nVidia GeForce 8400M, 8400M GS, 8600M
Platform: Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit
Release: 07/01/2008, 175.97, A08
Size: 53.20 MB
Download: NVIDIA_MULTI-DEVICE_A08_R190091

 

1. Idel temp 68C
2. Using CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.10.0
3. Latest Dell video driver 175.97, BIOS A11
4. Vista Home Premium
5. Nothing. My ambient temp is 26C (79F)

When I have Firefox, iTunes, and a couple of apps open, it runs in the low 70C's. I have it on a hard wood surface. If I have it on my lap where my legs blocks some of the vents, it can go to just under 80C. When I ran Vista experience test, running the 3D test bumps it up to 94C, so I don't think I'll be doing any graphics intensive stuff on it.

 

Can Anyone else confirm that this has worked for their notebooks?? Worth the DL or are the powers that be just making us run around circles and the entire GPU saga is imminently a PC blow up waiting to happen??????:O

 

the download is just what it says, making the fans run at a lower temperature, so that the temperature peak(94+) is slower compared to a fan kicking in later... of course this doesn't help 'heal' the GPU.... it'll just die slower and outside of ur waranty

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
59-66C (I chose 60-65 in the poll)

1.5 Playing a .mkv video file (1280x720) GPU temperature rises to 72C

1.7 What was the ambient temp noted while taking the above measurements?
25C

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
a. HWMonitor 1.10

and

b. 18kfangui 3.1 - +10C offset

Both show similar temperatures (in the range of one degree of difference).

3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell's 175.97 package (R190091) July, 1st, 2008
http://ftp.us.dell.com/video/NVIDIA_MULTI-DEVICE_A08_R190091.exe

3.5 What is your BIOS versions?
BIOS = A12 July, 9th, 2008
http://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/M1330A12.EXE


4. What is your operating system?
Windows VISTA 32 Home Premium SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
Use 9-cell battery.

XPSM1330 bought June, 25th in Europe.

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Fan is either off completely when booting Windows or is at around 3000rpm according to 18kfangui, very quiet, doesn't bother me at all.

Do you think I should apply the copper mod to my M1330?

Thanks

 

any pics of ur customed notebook stand?.... seems like i may need one

can someone post a screenshot of their 18kfangui? 18kfangui v3.1 doesnt show GPU temp for me.... (i am using the default dell video driver that they install for u, havent done anything driver-wise to my m1330 yet)

 

1. between 40 and 45 degrees C.

2. i8k utilities for Windows

3. 177.66 - laptopvideo2go.com

4. Vista Ultimate 32-bit

5. Nothing (Well, I did nothing, Dell, however, changed my motherboard, graphic card and heat-solution after my graphic card was fried. Computer ordered in august 2007. New heating-solution is version A02. Old was version A01. Bios version A12.

 

Bios A12
Idle temps 67c
With A/C Power

 

Any chance you can take a picture of this new A02 heatsink? And how is it different compared to the older one?

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
60-65C (max 104º on full load). AC connected

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor 1.10

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
27 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell's 175.97, bios A12

4. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista x86 Ultimate SP1 (with aero turned OFF <- love classic grey style)

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
9-cell battery.



XPSM1330 bought July, 3rd in Europe. No change on the cooling solution :/
Got it with 4 years nbd warranty as I'm sure it will fail one day or another.

 

Nope, as I do not want to mess inside my computer. As to the difference, I have no idea. The technician told me it was revision A02, and that he often had to replace mainboard due to fried graphic cards on this computer and that the new heatsink he installed in my system (version A02, asopposed to stock version A01) solved the problem with overheating. Before the technician worked on my computer and before frying my graphic card, I idled at around 60-70 degrees C. Right now, typing this, temperature on GPU is 39 degrees C.

What is not good about heatsink v. A02 is that nortbridge temperature isn't improved on by much. Max now is 85 degrees C as apposed to 97 degrees on my last heatsink.

 

I don't really understand dell... why the **** do they install the A01 heatsink if the have a better A02 one in the new computers? this is madness XD

 

My unmodded A02 heatsink, A04 mobo, A12 bios idles at 59C now (completely left alone idle as well as web browsing)

 

still seems a bit high. Have you activated powermizer on the nvidia gpu? I recommend using the most aggressive powermize configuration, even when running on AC power.

 

Bit high... what are you smoking?

All the M1330 8400 GS GPU's idle at 60-65 when on official drivers and using HWMonitor (i8k is out by 12 degrees and unofficial drivers have been proving to give wildly inaccurate temperature readings).

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
49-52C (max 78º on full load). AC connected

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor 1.10

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
75 F

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
microsoft update ver. 1.5.70021, bios A12

4. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista 64 bit home premium

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
rmclock, copper mod

this new low idle happened when i switched from a11 - a12 bios but caveat is fan is mostly on all the time medium speed. i love this laptop , now that rmclock has fixed the "squeal" and a simple batch file fixed the hdd 'clicking' , if i could just get the fans to tturn off like they are supposed to.... i don't think customers will settle for the bandaid of a12, and we all want new gpu and hsf!!!
come on dell, you know what you have to do!

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
69-74 AC connected

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor 1.10

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
45 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
LaptopVideo2Go 177.26, bios A12

4. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista 64 bit Ultimate SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?

 

Microsoft windows update has driver v156.69 for vista x64 and if I remember correctly this driver does not report the correct temperature. Try updating to a newer driver and check your temps

 

Brother....you are me hero.....45ºC ambient.....S ex, Sun and Beach.
Lol

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?

58-63 AC connected

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?

Nvidia Monitor Viev and CPUID HW Monitor

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?

24 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?

Dell's 175.97, bios A12

4. What is your operating system?

Windows Vista 32 SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?

9-cell battery

Run 3D Mark 06 Highest temp 99 C !!!! Bad

3D Mark score 1629



XPSM1330 bought in the end of may 2008.
It looks like this mobo not will survied more than 6 mon to 1 year

 

Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
50-55 ºC

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
Everest Ultimate 4.5

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
26 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
DELL (R173730) - (156.83 I guess)

5. What is your operating system?
XP Pro

6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
A12 BIOS

 

looks like you get false readings from your driver

 

Yep; the 156.xx drivers do not show the correct temperature (I experience about an 8C drop when using a 156.xx driver, compared to a 175.xx one.)

 

Oh great!

What's the driver version that is "approved" by most here? 175.XX?
Thanks.

 

I'm using 174.31 but 175.XX is ok.

 

Thanks. I downloaded 175.75 (by the way, did I need to "replace" the original inf file with the modified prior to installation?)

With the above drivers + BIOS 12 + elevating the back of the computer it is lingering around 60 C now using firefox, thunderbird, MS Word, etc.

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
59-61ºC

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
30 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell 175.97, BIOS A12

4. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista Ultimate x86, SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
Copper Mod w/ AS5, 9-cell battery running on flat wood surface.

ALSO:
Ran 3DMark06 tests, highest GPU temp was 74ºC.
Copper shim purchased from metaloffcuts.co.uk.
Before purchasng copper shim, stacked two pieces of .75mm thick copper hand cut and polished (not to mirror finish). Observed GPU temps 2-4ºC hotter than reported currently.

 

For Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:
1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
- 63 degrees idle, 72 degrees max load.
- Before copper mod it would easily reach 85 with some load on the CPU and the GPU.
- Under max load the CPU would lie around 80 degrees before the mod, now actually around 71-76 sometimes peaking at 81.
- (max load here is simultaneous conversion of uncompressed video to WMV + 3D graphics at high quality + uncompressed video playback, high load also on the HDD)

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
- Everest Ultimate 4.50.1330

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
- 23 degrees

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
- Dell, 175.97

5. What is your operating system?
- Vista Home Premium 32, SP1

6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
- Copper mod, BIOS A11, 1cm elevated rear of the notebook, I8kfanGUI currently running fan at low speed.


- Edit: These seem to be spurious temperature spikes measured by Everest, when running Orthos for a half hour the CPU temp maxes out at about 68 and the GPU at about 65. I've also undervolted my CPU a bit since, that may have caused lower and more stable temperatures. I know Orthos doesent load the GPU, but heat from the CPU should raise the temp on the GPU as well, but concidering the heat source is inside the CPU and the heatsink assembly is a little cooler than the core, I guess it's about normal.



What does BIOS A12 do?

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
60-70ºC

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor 1.1

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
24-27 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
laptopvideo2go 175.95 on Vista x64 Home Premium

4. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista Ultimate x86, SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
none, fan speed unaltered

3DMark06, peaked at 104 C

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
53C idle 74C max

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor V1.10

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
26C

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Laptopvideo2go Forceware 176.05

5. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit

6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Thermal Cooling Assembly Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
Copper mod

 

Hi all, my 3 MoBo replacement...hope...it will be the last one

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
55-61ºC (Firefox 5 tabs browser, excel,outlook) ohhh ;-)

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
I8kfan... Offset +10C
RivaTurner

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
24 ºC

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell 175.97, BIOS A09

4. What is your operating system?
Windows Vista Ultimate x86, SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
Copper Mod w/ AS5.
Aluminium notebook cooler

Full load :
Ran 3DMark06 tests, highest GPU temp was 72ºC.

 

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
58C

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWMonitor & GPU-Z

3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
Approx 30C? Slightly higher than standard room temp.

4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
156.87, laptopvideo2go, no modded inf

5. What is your operating system?
Windows XP x64 Edition

6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
No

*Important to note*
Temperatures are significantly higher on 17x revisions and even some 16x, hence using older drivers (as well as issues of getting stuck in 2D mode on battery). This is not a misreading because the fan speeds up at the expected times.
Do note that higher revision number does not necessarily mean the driver is newer - the 156.87's are dated Dec 2007, that's newer than most 16x revisions. This is due to how the branching driver structure works.

 

I ran some syntethic tests and got a max temp ov about 71-72 degrees on the GPU, but in real world applications maxing out the CPU and slightly loading the GPU I've seen temps up to 75 degrees. At this point I place a doublebaged slab of ice under the notebook and both CPU and GPU goes down to below 65 degrees. Sometimes this is neccesary because of the lengthy job ques I run sometimes, and they do stress the CPU to the max for many hours.

Conclusion: synthetic tests may place the CPU and/or GPU in a high load situation, but very little real work is done. Real world applications may sometimes be a better way to really stress and load the CPU and GPU, and thus revealing the real life working temps under high/max load, higher temps are often seen this way than during synthetic tests.

 

To Shakey_Jake33 ... umm the temperatures displayed by your current driver are the incorrect temperatures. The drivers that show the significantly higher temps are the correct temperatures. Many people have confirmed this as well as I. The temperatures are exactly 10C lower on certain drivers and are incorrect. If I were you, I would switch back to the drivers that show the correct temperatures so that you know what the real temps are.

 

If that's the case, why are the load temperatures the same as other drivers (late 80's), and why does the fan speed up at all the correct intervals? I'm not doubting you since you say it's been tested, that just doesn't make sense.

 

That driver version show incorrect temperatures. A lot of people reported that isue with 156.xx drivers.

 

People have a large difference in load temperatures with the M1330 hence the pool. Some have the copper mod and most don't. I have seen without the copper mod that people are reaching 100C under load. So if you are reporting late 80C on your current drivers than you probably have late 90C actual under load which is about the same as others without the copper mod. The fan ups the speed not based on drivers I don't think, because I have tested with different drivers and the fan speeds are always the same. And also the fan ups the speed regardless if it heats up in the BIOS where there are no drivers loaded. And teletubi above states that the 156.xx drivers are known to display the incorrect temps. Just giving you a heads up.

 

is the 169.09 driver from laptopvideo2go reporting the correct temps? thx

 

Weird...

1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
45c - 49c

1.5 What is your max GPU temperature, roughly determined by running 3DMark06, a world-standard 3D benchmarking tool?
64C

1.7 What was the ambient temp noted while taking the above measurements?
27C

2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
Gpuz
hwmonitor

3. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Nvidia laptopvideo2go 167.45

3.5 What are your motherboard and BIOS versions?
BIOS = A12

4. What is your operating system?
Windows VISTA 32 + SP1

5. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
(e.g.: Software Fan Control, Hardware Heatsink Fan Modification, Hardware Notebook Cooler, etc.)
Use 9-cell, copper mod (used silver instead of copper)

I also checked the cpu and northbridge temperatures, they are also cool, btw I touched the back of my m1330 and its also cool, the fan is barely running, I ran 3dmark06 and I got 1600 3dmarks, the max gpu temp was 64C.

But this seems weird are these temps right?, Do these drivers post correct temps?.

 

For Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:
1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade?
65-68 C
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature?
HWM 1.1
3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement?
25 C (room with A/C)
4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it?
Dell Site 175.97, BIOS is A12
5. What is your operating system?
Vista Home 32-bit
6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature?
Nothing yet.

After several days from latest updates, my computer was running fine but after a week or so, it started crashing again

 

Your temps are probably under reading by 10c at the most (a lot of buggy drivers on lv2g) so even with that possibility in mind you still have very good temps that are in line with other copper modded m1330's.

 

Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:
1. 55 to 60 °C.
2. RivaTuner V2.09
3. 23 °C.
4. Dell. R190091 - 175.97 A08 - 07/01/2008
5. Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1.
6. Copper Mod. Zalmann Cooler ZM-NC2000. A12 BIOS.

System is still under warranty and was purchased from Dell Switzerland in January 2008 without any problems to date. I went ahead and added the copper modification because my former GPU idle temperatures were around 70 °C and I was unable to run in Performance 3D mode for more than 2 minutes before peaking at 104 °C, which automatically reduced my memory clock speed from 600 to 300 MHz (core clock from 400 to 275 MHz). I also purchased an Intel T9300 mobile processor to replace the original T7500 to reduce power consumption. I just ran a test track of IL-2 Forgotten Battles after having overclocked to 500/720 MHz and GPU temperatures didn't exceed 84 °C!

Thanks to everyone who contributed to the development of the copper mod recommendation and let's hope my Dell never has a GPU failure!

 

If the chipset and the processor are cooler IS NOT A DRIVER ISSUE. It means that its cooler, I have tried several different drivers and this driver is working, I measured with a laser thermometer, the temps are right at least in my case, I dont know if the temps are wrong or higher in other m1330 but not here.

Even, even if my 8400gs temps are wrong, my other temps are right and are also cooler.

Really, sometimes I have really good laughs while reading the mod´s thread, there are really obstinated people, they think that their mere word is the law and they know everything . I know that maybe Im not a good modder or anything else but this is not the hardest mod or hack I have done.

 

Just an update on Direct2Dell's Blog on Dell GPU limited warranty enhancement:

http://direct2dell.com/one2one/arch...ate-limited-warranty-enhancement-details.aspx

 

Mine is 70-80 mmmm... seems that's not so good

 

Apologies for dragging up an old thread, but better to keep all the info in one thread I feel.

My GPU Idles at about 80c, in a room that's about 25c

When I max it out using FurMark, I can get it up to 104c

My CPU idle temps are much, much lower (since I cleaned the fluff from my fan)

I'm guessing when my motherboard was replaced (GPU Failure) that they haven't done the heatsink foam thing properly. Can I get Dell to fix this, the laptop is still under warranty. Will they accept the fact it's getting over 100c as a fault?

Thanks,
Tim

 

For Dell XPS M1330 notebook with nVidia GeForce 8400M GS GPU:
1. What is your idle GPU temperature in Centigrade? 59 °C, maxes out at 70 °C in Ubuntu, and around 80-85 °C in Windows (which is where I play games).
2. Which utility is measuring your GPU temperature? nvidia-settings -q GPUCoreTemp
3. What is the ambient temperature during measurement? 30 - 32 °C
4. Where did you get your video driver and what version is it? 169.12 from Ubuntu repositories, BIOS is A14 (and I've noticed much lower temperatures under this)
5. What is your operating system? Ubuntu 8.04.1
6. What did you add or modify to get this GPU temperature? The laptop is placed slightly raised, using a book under the battery.

I've had my motherboard replaced once, and that time the temperatures went up to 103 °C on one occasion (used HWMonitor to check then) and then soon after I noticed this problem I started getting green and pink lines.

My CPU idles at 32 °C but sometimes goes up to 70 °C.

 

Hi just asking are these temperatures really ok? Running in like a 22-25 celcuis environment. BTW im on a dell inspiron 1420 laptop 8400m GS
GPU:57C
HD0:37C
Temp1:31C
Core0:48C
Core1:49C
Core:67C
Ambient:0C

Running mozila firefox, 1 msn conversation and msn obviously + speedfan
Operating system: Windows XP
No MOD
Video driver: not sure.....don't noe bout dat stuff

Thanks help be nice and email me :]

 

They're fine.
Be unlazy and come back to the thread you posted to.
We have no way to email you anyway.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/member.php?u=235948

"drkzin has no contact information."

Whoopsie.